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Post by coyotecrazie5 on Jan 22, 2019 18:06:13 GMT -6
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Post by usdtator on Jan 23, 2019 8:24:31 GMT -6
Can't say I'm too upset about this... He was never very friendly with fans and boosters unless you were a high dollar booster. Herbster is complete opposite of Williams and greets each fan and booster as though they are important.
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Post by kiyoat on Jan 23, 2019 9:12:14 GMT -6
He may be one of the reasons we connected with Lee, so that has value. Hard to say what other accomplishments he had behind the scenes, but I look at it like mid-major coaches. If they make a lateral move or demotion that reflects poorly on either them or the mid-major school. If the move is a promotion it's hard to fault them, and may reflect well on the school as far as getting other good applicants.
Consider our BB coaches that got promotions, and the good/great coaches we were able to get as replacements as a result of their successes. R. Williams, A. Williams and C. Smith elevated the profile of the job. Maybe it can work like that with AD's too?
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Post by yote14 on Jan 23, 2019 9:41:34 GMT -6
He was a cocky jerk the few times I talked with him.
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Post by elcoyote on Jan 23, 2019 10:33:26 GMT -6
I thought he was fine. I never had any issues with him at all. It's quite possible that some people are just more introverted than others.
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Post by usdguy99 on Jan 23, 2019 16:08:20 GMT -6
A guy that is always looking over your shoulder for bigger pockets while he is talking to you...good riddance.
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Post by yoteforever on Jan 23, 2019 19:17:39 GMT -6
I’m going to chime in on this and probably barbqued by some of you on this board. 3 or 4 guys have said that they’re basically happy Dave is leaving because they felt slighted by him when in conversations feeling like he’s always looking over your shoulder for either “bigger pockets or high dollar boosters”. Maybe it’s fair you say it maybe not. But what’s bothering to me is you treat those boosters as if they are pieces of crap. I take offense to that.
I’m probably one of those boosters you are referring to. I don’t think anyone could accuse me or my wife as being snobbish, elite, or think we’re better than anyone else. I was fortunate enough that I was capable of making a gift to building the arena. I don’t ask for any favors or special treatment but the fact remains it’s good business to take care of those that take care of you. So the fact Dave Williams paid attention to those people is wise. If he treated you improperly than all I can say he shouldn’t have but that’s not the Dave I have come to know and appreciate the past 3 years.
For those of you that don’t know, he was instrumental in the hiring of Bob Nielsen, Coach P, Craig Smith and now Todd Lee I would say those people have been pretty damned good hires. Dave was extremely instrumental in bringing in fund raising dollars for the arena. Our coaches like and trust him. No one is perfect and I’m not saying Dave is, but for those of you think this will be an easy replacement you aren’t right. USD lost a valued employee to New Mexico
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Post by Yotes on Jan 23, 2019 22:51:56 GMT -6
He always seemed like he was pretty good at his job from my perspective. If New Mexico hired him into a similar position he must have been doing something right.
Honestly, it shouldn't be the Athletic Director, Deputy AD, Assistant AD, or whatever's personal responsibility to make the common fan feel important. I don't expect anyone with AD in their title to give me the time of day. I do hope these people hire staff who make us feel like we are engaged with the university, but they have got bigger fish to fry than you and I.
I will say that it's awesome how Herbster will converse with me anytime I approach him. Part of what makes that so great is that he has every right to brush me off. Always felt the same way with Abbott. Never going to expect these people to talk to me though (unless I have a wildly successful career ahead of me lol).
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Post by vermcat on Jan 24, 2019 23:36:39 GMT -6
Happy he's gone. I have no issue with him always rubbing shoulders with boosters. We wouldn't be Division 1 without the amazing support of our boosters.
I'm glad he's gone because of the numerous not so good stories I've heard about him. I understand rumors are rumors, but when you hear the same stories from multiple people, there must be some truth to it. I'm honestly surprised he still had a job here after some of the stories, but maybe those were exaggerated a little bit.
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Post by Yote 53 on Jan 25, 2019 8:41:31 GMT -6
This thread isn't productive. Time to lock it.
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