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Post by Coyote Fan on Mar 7, 2011 17:53:54 GMT -6
Do hard core true red bleeding red Yote Fans right now have an auro of jealousy when it comes to the Summit League tourney and all the god damn attention that the Jacks are getting right now. I really wonder whether USD would be getting this kind of attention if they were in the position that SDSU is in right now. I say not quite even if USD fans did fill the arena.
Today I saw all those Rabbit fans congregating around the arena and it kind of sickened me thinking that this whole state loves the Jacks and looks at USD as a much lower second fiddle, whether it's true or not.
That is one of the reasons that I get so upset after losses and why I honestly will still jump up and down in my livingroom during the good times. I want the Yotes to win so badly I can taste it. I wish more Coyote Fans would care and care alot more than they do. When I saw all the Jacks fans today it actually made me in a bad mood for awhile, wishing so badly that USD could be in this tourney and crush the Jacks right out of the Sioux Falls Arena.
I would just love to see 4,000 Coyote fans screaming at the top of their lungs and rattling every bolt trying to will the Yotes to the NCAA tourney. Am I the only one that really cares that much and really want the Yotes to win that much? Does anyone else actually jump around in their livingroom when the Yotes get a big win. Does anyone else feel sick to their stomach when the team losses or gives off the vibe of having little hope of success. Does anyone else actually get butterflies of anxiety during big games whether being in the arena or sitting at home. I have had games where I have literally sat at the edge of my seat praying that every shot would go in, kind of like my personally willing good fortune and wanting it so bad would actually make it come true. Some of the edge has been taken off that attitude since the Jacks went D1 in 2003. Well, the feelings are starting to come back for me, that is for sure.
I want so badly for USD to have success. It might not show every single day or in every single comment because when things don't go well I can go into a bit of a Coyote depression. That explains why my behavior can be so manic depressant because of my deep caring for what happens on the field.
I guess I have a program and that is caring too much and during big events and games the reminder becomes very apparent.
I am generally a postive thinker but when it comes to the Yotes I can get into moods where i feel like everyone is going to go wrong that can go wrong. As an example, it seems like the teams that have to travel to South Dakota for the post season tourney are starting to grumble more and more about the tourney being in Sioux Falls and what a big home court advantage it is for the Jacks. I agree and believe deep down that it is a definate unfair advantage. If enough schools cry foul my fear is that the year USD becomes tourney eligible is the year that tourney will disappear from Sioux Falls and the Coyote Fans won't be able to experience the same home cooking that SDSU fans have experienced. The Jacks got to host 3 or 4 mens regionals in the same timeframe where USD only got to host one over the past 2 decades. USD as a program was just as good but it seemed as if the selection committee never did USD any favors. I fear the same thing happens with the Summit tourney. I fear that USD stays in the Summit, with one of the big reasons being the post season tourney, and then it disappears in a flash.
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Post by sdsportsfan2010 on Mar 7, 2011 21:48:36 GMT -6
You sound suicidal The Coyotes turn will come. It will be great to have both the Jacks and the Coyotes playing in the summit tourney. Tickets will be tough to get. Everyone will haave to buy the all tourney tickets instead of buying single session tickets. Too bad the arena doesnt seat 12000 or more.
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Post by Iceman on Mar 8, 2011 0:33:31 GMT -6
I agree with you on some of those points CF. I can't stand when the Coyotes get beat. I get angry and in a bad mood. Just ask my wife! I get into games while listening on the radio as well. It is a little harder, but the other night, I was on the edge of my seat. When Louie started draining 3's, we were going nuts! RJ helps me get into the games while listening on the radio!
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Mar 8, 2011 2:29:24 GMT -6
I don't get as emotional as I used to, but it's something I had to work on with my profession and I have to stay even keeled. Yes, I still get involved with the team and such though.
In terms of the games being in Sioux Falls, I don't think Douple cares about the home court advantage as long as the Summit is making money. NDSU drives five hours to get to the game, even if the game was held in a prime spot, would other teams drive the five hours? Doubtful. It's just jealousy right now for them. Oakland does great in the tourny and there is no home court for them. Hmmmm maybe it's just the best teams tend to do very well.
The one thing Douple cares about is the facility. I think he is growing tired of the Arena and wants a new events center in SF so he can keep it there. Omaha wants the Summit Tourney too, so SF has to get off their butts to get one built. The Arena is a dump and if Omaha offers a good deal, and I don't think it has to be as good as Sioux Falls, they will get it because they will have better facilities.
SF is MORE than capable of holding the tourny with the restaurants and hotels, it's just the Arena. USD can't blame the Summit if Douple chooses Omaha over SF, I know i would with the out of date Arena. It's an embarrassing facility.
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Post by Yote 53 on Mar 8, 2011 8:39:41 GMT -6
I thought the tourney in SF was one of the BIG reason we stayed in the Summit? Guess we'll have to wait and see if THAT was a lie.
Omaha? Why would they put the Summit tourney in Omaha? There isn't even a conference school there. Those people don't give a crap about supporting UNO the way it is. They only come out to support WINNERS (sometimes, UNO football was a consistent winner with mediocre support). And in case Mr. Douple didn't get the memo, Omaha is Valley territory. The Summit might as well be NAIA as far as people from Omaha are concerned.
Move the Summit tourney to Omaha and we can (maybe) watch a 1/10th full morgue of an arena on ESPN 7.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Mar 8, 2011 8:41:27 GMT -6
Problem with Omaha, who will go to it if it is there. UNO has a long history of not supporting basketball if they were to get into the Summit. I hope the Mavericks do get into the Summit as they would make for a nice travel partner for USD. I am always looking for reasons to go to Omaha and getting UNI in the loop would be a nice one, tourney or not.
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Post by yotemeal on Mar 8, 2011 8:55:01 GMT -6
Summit Tourney locale is all about money. Which city and corporate sponsors are willing to step up? It is not unusual for a mid-major conference tournament to be held at a venue which allows for considerable home court advantage for one or more teams. The tourney will stay in Sioux Falls as long as the money is there (and no special consideration is given to high travel costs to get here and the crappy arena). SDSU shouldn't have to apologize for people actually showing up for the Summit Tourney when hosted in South Dakota.
The only way I see Omaha entering the picture is if UNO makes the jump to D-I and lands in the Summit. The biggest threat to snag the tourney, IMO, might be Fargo. With the Sanford-Meritcare relationship, I wonder if, at any point, Sanford sponsorship dollars would ever help push a Fargo bid.
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Post by usdlaw on Mar 8, 2011 9:40:25 GMT -6
There are around 10 cities applying to host the tourney, including Sioux Falls and Sioux City.
I had a nice chat with the Oakland representative yesterday. He basically said attendance doesn't have much to do with it and it is all about corporate sponsorships. I understand that, but from a fan perspective having the a full house is fun. They have had less than stellar crowds in past years, hence the reason the last three years have set every single attendance record for the tournament.
So ... to keep it here ... we are relying on Sanford, First Premier and some of the other larger donors in the area. It probably is really thanks to them that the tournament is here, and may stay here in future years.
It was also interesting to see how other schools really do not like it in SF. Not just because of the home crowd atmosphere, but also travel costs into SF are difficult for many of these schools.
Also, FYI Omaha makes sense because it is a neutral centralized site. They will never host the tournament at a home court.
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Post by elpresidente on Mar 8, 2011 10:02:32 GMT -6
So, this is intended as a good natured joke inspired by Coyote fans first post. I don't mean it as smack so I'm going to put it in this section.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Mar 8, 2011 10:40:10 GMT -6
Actually USD was in a significant position of power (especially fora transitioning school) when they made the decision to stay in the Summit. The stability today is better than it would have been had USD went west. If USD went to the Big Sky the State Dakota schools would have had to take a serious look at the viability of the league. The best thing IMO about going to the Summit is that it groups USD with better schools to be in a position to make future moves to conferences should the doors open. This is strictly hearsay but Oakland may consider going to the Horizon and if one school defects prior to another joining the Summit could still be in trouble. If Oakland bolts IUPUI, IPFW and W Illinois will have to seriously take a look at doing something similar.
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Post by Yote 53 on Mar 8, 2011 11:17:31 GMT -6
^^^ How is this the best thing about the Summit? Schools leave this conference at an alarming rate. So if the Summit destabilizes do you think the Valley is going to come in with an offer because they feel sorry for us? That is the only other viable conference in the area. What other doors are going to open?
We had the opportunity to be in a stable conference and let it slip by.
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Post by sdsportsfan2010 on Mar 8, 2011 11:37:19 GMT -6
Summit Tourney locale is all about money. Which city and corporate sponsors are willing to step up? It is not unusual for a mid-major conference tournament to be held at a venue which allows for considerable home court advantage for one or more teams. The tourney will stay in Sioux Falls as long as the money is there (and no special consideration is given to high travel costs to get here and the crappy arena). SDSU shouldn't have to apologize for people actually showing up for the Summit Tourney when hosted in South Dakota. The only way I see Omaha entering the picture is if UNO makes the jump to D-I and lands in the Summit. The biggest threat to snag the tourney, IMO, might be Fargo. With the Sanford-Meritcare relationship, I wonder if, at any point, Sanford sponsorship dollars would ever help push a Fargo bid. If its all about money, isnt having 6000 at a game going to make you more money than having 1000 or 2000?
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Mar 8, 2011 13:46:34 GMT -6
Here's the deal. How much longer can the Arena really host the Summit League? It's barely able to host it and barely able to host something like the state high school wrestling tournament. The MINUTE a new Arena is built in Sioux Falls is the minute I bet the Summit League signs a 10-year deal to stay in Sioux Falls.
Honestly, I think the Summit hates the Arena. It's a VERY bad arena. Seriously, take the Summit away fro two years and I bet it takes about 6 months, heck even 3 months, after that announcement that a new Arena has a groundbreaking.
Omaha has just as much money to spend, it's easier to get to, people from SD would still go and spend money and attendance would still be pretty good. If people from NDSU can stay in SF for those games, why can people from SF go to Omaha? Honestly.
Omaha has the better facilities and maybe more corporate sponsorships. You had Sanford and a NEW arena to SF and Omaha wouldn't have a chance. Unfortunately Sioux Falls has dragged its feet for WAY too long.
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Post by bigOyote on Mar 8, 2011 16:52:52 GMT -6
The interesting thing about Omaha is we are a big event city. College World Series, Womens Final four volleyball, Olympic swim trials, March Madness regional, all were very successful events. I have not heard of Omaha bidding on the tourney but I am also not in a position to but if they do they have the money and the know how to make it successful. It would alos be nice to see the Yotes play after a 20 minute drive instead of the regular 2 hour trek we do now. Three hours from SF is a cake walk as long as you don't fall asleep driving in Iowa.
Side note: UNO is very very far from even thinking about discussing moving up. Too many considerations with hockey and football (want to compete with the Huskers for attention)
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Post by yotemeal on Mar 9, 2011 8:22:32 GMT -6
Summit Tourney locale is all about money. Which city and corporate sponsors are willing to step up? It is not unusual for a mid-major conference tournament to be held at a venue which allows for considerable home court advantage for one or more teams. The tourney will stay in Sioux Falls as long as the money is there (and no special consideration is given to high travel costs to get here and the crappy arena). SDSU shouldn't have to apologize for people actually showing up for the Summit Tourney when hosted in South Dakota. The only way I see Omaha entering the picture is if UNO makes the jump to D-I and lands in the Summit. The biggest threat to snag the tourney, IMO, might be Fargo. With the Sanford-Meritcare relationship, I wonder if, at any point, Sanford sponsorship dollars would ever help push a Fargo bid. I typically try to confine my comments to wild speculation, but it looks like there are actually a few burning embers with this UNO business. www.argusleader.com/article/20110309/SPORTS02/103090327/UNO-talks-Summit-about-joining-league?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|Home|s
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