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Post by golfingyote on Mar 14, 2021 19:40:51 GMT -6
The short yardage situations piss me off more than anything. How many times has the inability to confidently call run plays going to cost us football games. Over and over in the red zone and crucial short yardage situations we shy away from running, and when we do run there is 3 guys in the backfield the second the rb touches the ball because all of our run plays take so long to develop. I get the gun/pistol are the staple of the offense but you need to be able to go under center and hand the ball off or run a sneak. Adapt or die- I guess we choose die?
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Post by Yotes on Mar 14, 2021 19:46:02 GMT -6
When obc speaks, I listen. I agree, but will add that when Yoeforever speaks I listen. (Not making this a contest, merely remarking that we have impressively wise presences on this board) No one is happy about where we are. Criticism is justified but there is a lot of football to be played. Win the next couple games and we will be feeling pretty good. Sucks to be in this position, but here we are. I really enjoyed seeing the new renovations and can just imagine the atmosphere with a packed crowd and the lighting flashing as we score a big TD. I was very impressed. |
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Post by fightsd on Mar 14, 2021 19:49:40 GMT -6
In life, one of the easiest things to do is join the crowd and kick somebody when they’re down. So easy. Your voice is magnified by the masses. OBC knows what he’s talking about, no question about it. Many of the things he says is spot on about the team. The the usual poster that comes out of the woodwork when he smells blood in the water once again has all the answers. If Herbster leaves, I better see his resume on President Gestring’s desk day one. Former players publicly criticizing the very guys some have lined up with or at least should understand what they’re going through. Calling out coaches in a public forum when the truth of the matter is they aren’t OBC, and truly only think they understand the issues. Right now we have a team with no identity. The lines are being whipped. Receivers are dropping passes Tackles are being missed . In my opinion, and only my opinion, is they have no fire. Go through the motions and let the game dictate to them, when in my mind they should dictate the game.. I make no excuses. Zero. We HAVE to win. We have to take it to our opponent instead of them taking it to us. But the reality is we have 5 games left. Every one of them is winnable. As evidenced by the first three games everyone is losable. Our coaching staff needs to be, and will be accountable, but that also means with 5 games left they have the opportunity to “right the ship”. In my opinion, this is NOT the time to throw anyone ( players or coaches ) under the bus. Plenty of time for that later. Now is the time to throw your support towards them and see if they have the moxie and talent to do it. 1978 we started 1-3. Looked like $hit. Met as a team and bared our souls....then ran the table. NCC champs. Didn’t share it. Outright. Give this team the same opportunity to do the same. As a fan base, the one thing I do agree with Coyotefan on is not accepting losing anymore. No more. But that means coming to games, buying tickets, and being loud. It all starts at home. Give these guys an opportunity to turn it. That’s the only right and fair thing to do 3 games in. As OBC said, the investment has been made. It’s time to win. Everybody should have the same right to criticize the team when it's warranted. Former player or not, regardless of when they played. It's not the fact that they're losing, I was on the wrong side of a LOT of those games. It's how they're doing it and the fact that we've seen no indication that they are fluke losses. We're not giving away victories, we are just flat out not as good as the competition. I can accept that when losing to the perennial power houses in the conference, but Missouri State is a bottom feeder, and they are better than we are. That's the part that is bothering me. I don't know what the answer is, but it's fair to have the hard conversations at this point. |
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Post by yoteforever on Mar 14, 2021 20:00:32 GMT -6
You’re entitled to your opinion and I respect that fact. But one thing you say I definitely disagree with is when you say we aren’t giving away victories but getting beat by better teams. If you think for one minute Missouri State was the better team then you and I see the game differently. We handed them that game on a silver platter. Gift wrapped.
North Dakota was the better team. That’s exactly why I say the last 5 games will tell the story. They are all winnable. But they’re also losable. I’ll tell you who’s correct on April 17th. If you are correct then we are in deeper do do then I think we are. If I’m correct then it’s fixable. Not for ego reasons, I pray I’m right.
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Post by fightsd on Mar 14, 2021 21:34:31 GMT -6
You’re entitled to your opinion and I respect that fact. But one thing you say I definitely disagree with is when you say we aren’t giving away victories but getting beat by better teams. If you think for one minute Missouri State was the better team then you and I see the game differently. We handed them that game on a silver platter. Gift wrapped. North Dakota was the better team. That’s exactly why I say the last 5 games will tell the story. They are all winnable. But they’re also losable. I’ll tell you who’s correct on April 17th. If you are correct then we are in deeper do do then I think we are. If I’m correct then it’s fixable. Not for ego reasons, I pray I’m right. I mean, you also said we forced 7 turnovers against ISUr. You said that game wasn't handed to us. We'll have to agree to disagree I guess. We all want the same thing for this team, just look at it differently. I want to be the glass half full guy in the worst kind of way, but I just don't see a lot of positives to focus on at this point. |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Mar 15, 2021 2:26:51 GMT -6
OK Yote Forever we now agree that accepting losing is no longer an option. I thought that 25 years ago and some are finally joining that way of thinking. So if we the fans, the team and the admin will not accept losing anymore what should happen at the end of the year if we have another losing season???
Not accepting losing is not doing nothing, it has to include taking big steps for it to stop.
So as fans what should we do to not accept losing?
What should the team do to not accept losing?
What should the admin do to not accept losing?
These are always questions that have been out there but have never been addressed.
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Post by fightsd on Mar 15, 2021 2:38:28 GMT -6
OK Yote Forever we now agree that accepting losing is no longer an option. I thought that 25 years ago and some are finally joining that way of thinking. So if we the fans, the team and the admin will not accept losing anymore what should happen at the end of the year if we have another losing season??? Not accepting losing is not doing nothing, it has to include taking big steps for it to stop. So as fans what should we do to not accept losing? What should the team do to not accept losing? What should the admin do to not accept losing? These are always questions that have been out there but have never been addressed. CF is trying to get his lynch mob put together. Just curious, would you accept any answers other than demanding the staff be fired? |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Mar 15, 2021 2:39:45 GMT -6
You’re entitled to your opinion and I respect that fact. But one thing you say I definitely disagree with is when you say we aren’t giving away victories but getting beat by better teams. If you think for one minute Missouri State was the better team then you and I see the game differently. We handed them that game on a silver platter. Gift wrapped. North Dakota was the better team. That’s exactly why I say the last 5 games will tell the story. They are all winnable. But they’re also losable. I’ll tell you who’s correct on April 17th. If you are correct then we are in deeper do do then I think we are. If I’m correct then it’s fixable. Not for ego reasons, I pray I’m right. The Coyotes actually have quite a long history or playing better than the opponents in yards gained but somehow losing those football games. That seems to be a trend and not a fluke so when the team gives away games that is part of their personality. If a team outgains the other team by 200 yards but gives up a couple of big plays and loses that is part of the game. A team has to stop those types of plays. Getting 80 yards on one play is basically the same thing as having a 12 play drive that results in the same thing. One just happens to get the job done much more quickly. I think when figuring out who the better team is one should look at the yardage Missouri State got on the kick return touchdown and the pick 6. For that matter also the block field goal. Those plays probably accounted for about 150 yards plus of gain for the Bears. The Coyotes record is probably exactly what it should be at this point. They probably should have lost to ISU and defeated MSU but those games flipped from the team that perhaps deserved to win. In sports whether you deserve to win or not can be irrelevant many times. Confidence, momentum, psyche etc all come from the actual result not who should have won. |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Mar 15, 2021 2:57:30 GMT -6
OK Yote Forever we now agree that accepting losing is no longer an option. I thought that 25 years ago and some are finally joining that way of thinking. So if we the fans, the team and the admin will not accept losing anymore what should happen at the end of the year if we have another losing season??? Not accepting losing is not doing nothing, it has to include taking big steps for it to stop. So as fans what should we do to not accept losing? What should the team do to not accept losing? What should the admin do to not accept losing? These are always questions that have been out there but have never been addressed. CF is trying to get his lynch mob put together. Just curious, would you accept any answers other than demanding the staff be fired? My island is starting to grow larger. For so many years I stood alone on demanding accountability. Now a few more people are starting to also stand on that island as well, even though they may find it very difficult to agree with me on anything. So if not firing everyone is the answer that sure hasn't seemed to work in the past and is not working now. What other option is there at this point. The buck stops with Nielson in every way. Everything runs through him. He decides recruiting, strategy, player development, assistant coaching decisions etc. I stated that I wanted Deboer and not many people agreed with me. They called me crazy. Not looking so crazy right now. My judgement on Nielson was in year 3. I thought that was the make it or break it year. That was the first year without Streveler and that was when the downfall really began. I talk to many people that are fans of football from many of the area teams and I have talked to coaches and people that have a big hand in their programs. When it comes to USD supporters I find that many of them do not have confidence in the football program. They would rather talk Women's Hoops and who could blame them. I have talked to the NDSU men's basketball coach and administrators from UMKC that came up to the Summit tourney just to name just a couple. At this point in time I am gonna lay off for awhile again. I do not want to wear out my welcome. I have been pretty quite about USD football until recently so maybe it is time to go back into hibernation with football and listen to everyone else instead. It is actually quite refreshing that people are getting sick and tired of USD football. We need to be as the many years of bad football are unbearable. |
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Post by sportschic on Mar 15, 2021 7:01:00 GMT -6
There are very talented players on the team. Bob is capable of coaching winners. I believe that there is no fire and the leadership is absent. For some reason the team is not fired up when they take the field and they don’t collectively have an aggressive edge while playing. There a few players that show fire an aggression but to win games you need 11 players to be hungry. They need to figure out how to get this team mentally prepared and fired up! The OL is simply out of shape, it’s obvious they get tired and wear down. That is expected in the first few games after not playing football for so long.
The bottom line is get some fire in these guys before games and have them come out ready to dominate!
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Post by yoteforever on Mar 15, 2021 7:53:52 GMT -6
CF made a statement that we have a long history of outplaying our opponents yet losing the game. If he’s correct, then that’s a whole new ball game. So I went back in the Nielson era from 2016-last Saturday and broke it down. I calculated the following:
Wins where we had better stats
Wins where we had worse stats
Wins where the stats were neutral ( within 10% of each other )
Losses where we had better stats
Losses where we had worse stats
Losses where we were neutral ( within 10% of each other )
Hers the numbers. From 2016 to present day the Coyotes are 15-20 in MVFC play.
Wins with favorable stats: 7
Wins with unfavorable stats: 5
Wins with neutral stats: 3
Losses with favorable stats: 5
Losses with negative stats: 11
Losses with neutral stats: 4
Here’s the summation:
We “stole” 5 games
We “gave away” 5 games
We are 3-4 in neutral stats games
We are 7-11 in games where the statistical better team won the game.
Remove NDSU from the equation and we are 7-7. Outside of NDSU we literally are in a statistical tie with all members of the MVFC teams. I’m sure every other team in this league would have the same results/analogy against Ndsu
What’s this mean? It tells me we have the talent to compete and contend but maybe lack the faith and or fire to go positive. The numbers are what they are. These are not elite results however they aren’t compelling to quick turnaround either. My contention is if they could get that fire in their belly, play with their hair on fire, AND BELIEVE, we can get this done.
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Post by yotesx2 on Mar 15, 2021 11:05:02 GMT -6
It's been a long time since I've been on here.
Just a few thoughts and observations.
We have the talent. We have the coaches. We have the facilities.
We lack passion, confidence, and an overall burning desire to fight for each other and get the job done...at all cost... regardless of injuries, etc. Fight for each other and make yourself better (mentally and physically) to make the team better.
There's no doubt that our players, coaches, fans, etc., want/desire to win games, but the overall aura is not there. The fire for each other is not there. The excitement/FUN is not there. Regardless of what our coaches call in all 3 phases of the game (questionable at times), our players need to execute with an attitude (for each other) that they are going to "Make It Happen" for each other. We've had players that play with an edge and a burning desire to compete (win at everything they do and have a refuse to lose attitude), and you can "SEE" it on the field. They make others better and raise everyones level of play by their words and actions, etc. I'm dating myself here, but Jones, Berschoner, Streveler, (and A LOT more... not just QB's) come to mind. Yes, coaches mess up. Yes, players mess up. Yes, injuries happen. Yes, we all make mistakes, but the underlying theme I've witnessed over the years, is the lack of brotherhood and passion to play this game (fans included) on a consistent basis. It's hard to be up and excited for an entire game, but everyone has their niche and can do their jobs. Players in the game are important. Players on the sidelines are important. Coaches and player personnel are important. Fan base is important. If we're going to turn this thing around... Then everyone needs to be "ALL IN" and play/cheer that way on a daily basis. Get out of your own way and play for the guy next to you. When you play for yourself... it's easy to cut corners and not give your best effort on a consistent basis, but when you play for others... it's much harder to give in and let others down. In turn... your passion, attitude and overall effort will improve. A good rule to remember in life... Leave things looking better than the way you found it. That takes effort and a burning desire to succeed on a daily basis. It doesn't just happen... you have to "Make it Happen". We all should expect more, and "WORK" to make that happen. Nothing is given...everything is earned. Winning is FUN, but it takes a lot of hard work, talent, coaching and confidence in each other, to make it happen consistently. Let's build a consistent/winning/traditional/confident/tough/physical/exciting "program", not just a one hit wonder.
Sorry for the rant.
Okay... I'm off my soap box and I'm done preaching. LOL
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Post by GoYotes on Mar 15, 2021 12:24:19 GMT -6
We all saw what happens when everybody is "all in" at a game played on November 23, 2019 and that was with fans on only one side of the dome. We need to have the same effort and buy in from all for every single game. Once it starts to happen it becomes contagious. The fans feed off the energy on the field. The play on the field feeds off the energy in the stands.
It really sucked that games couldn't be played this past fall, which would have made it easier to carryover some of the momentum from the end of the 2019 season. Once things return to normal and there are no attendance restrictions and we can get things pointed in the right direction, the Dome will provide a incredible home field advantage and there will be no place better to spend a Saturday in the fall. We need to show improvement the rest of this spring season to serve as a springboard for next fall. I am an eternal optimist when it comes to Coyote athletics, but I really believe we are real close to getting over the hump and taking the football program to then next level, but patience is starting the wear thin. The ultimate responsibility for this improvement lies with the coaching staff and players.
This coming Saturday in Youngstown, we hunt.
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Post by saturdayskills on Mar 15, 2021 17:13:44 GMT -6
I was hoping the big inaugural game in the new facility would’ve ended with a “W” but I still remain hopeful. I believe we have a quarterback we can really get behind. I’m sure the Coaches are really starting to feel the pressure. Let’s beat the bunnies up north and all will be forgiven.
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Post by saturdayskills on Mar 15, 2021 17:13:56 GMT -6
I was hoping the big inaugural game in the new facility would’ve ended with a “W” but I still remain hopeful. I believe we have a quarterback we can really get behind. I’m sure the Coaches are really starting to feel the pressure. Let’s beat the bunnies up north and all will be forgiven.
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