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Post by Yotes on Sept 3, 2022 19:30:29 GMT -6
Might as well add a muffed punt by our best receiver. Somehow recovered it...but still.
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Post by fightsd on Sept 3, 2022 19:36:10 GMT -6
Let's just get out of this without any more injuries. This is a really good KSU team and a bad day for the coyotes. Glad we're getting it out of the way early
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Post by Yotes on Sept 3, 2022 20:11:23 GMT -6
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Post by fightsd on Sept 3, 2022 20:18:39 GMT -6
Well that was fun. Glad it's over. Hopefully everybody recovers well. The score obviously sucked but that's a really good KSU team. I would say it's a toss up between then and Wisconsin for toughest opponents for the MVFC this week. Wisconsin blanked ISUr today also. Nebraska is a joke and Iowa is perpetually overrated. Air Force throttled UNI today which I think might be the most embarrassing loss in the conference.
Take it for what it is and move on. There was some discussion about why we schedule out of conference games the way we do. Here's my take. I understand we get paid to go play these games, but it honestly does nothing for getting the team ready for conference play. I'd rather keep Montana and skip the FBS games every year. Give us the best teams in our league. It's a lot better measuring stick for playoff success than how well we play against a BIG 12 team.
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Post by Yotes on Sept 3, 2022 20:30:47 GMT -6
Well that was fun. Glad it's over. Hopefully everybody recovers well. The score obviously sucked but that's a really good KSU team. I would say it's a toss up between then and Wisconsin for toughest opponents for the MVFC this week. Wisconsin blanked ISUr today also. Nebraska is a joke and Iowa is perpetually overrated. Air Force throttled UNI today which I think might be the most embarrassing loss in the conference. Take it for what it is and move on. There was some discussion about why we schedule out of conference games the way we do. Here's my take. I understand we get paid to go play these games, but it honestly does nothing for getting the team ready for conference play. I'd rather keep Montana and skip the FBS games every year. Give us the best teams in our league. It's a lot better measuring stick for playoff success than how well we play against a BIG 12 team. We all know this won't happen. Not without either an exponential increase in fan support, or some serious concessions in our football budget. My opinion has been to stop scheduling Montana, or other top tier FCS teams. Our conference schedule is more than enough and the playoff committee doesn't value SOS anyways. |
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Post by fightsd on Sept 3, 2022 20:36:03 GMT -6
Well that was fun. Glad it's over. Hopefully everybody recovers well. The score obviously sucked but that's a really good KSU team. I would say it's a toss up between then and Wisconsin for toughest opponents for the MVFC this week. Wisconsin blanked ISUr today also. Nebraska is a joke and Iowa is perpetually overrated. Air Force throttled UNI today which I think might be the most embarrassing loss in the conference. Take it for what it is and move on. There was some discussion about why we schedule out of conference games the way we do. Here's my take. I understand we get paid to go play these games, but it honestly does nothing for getting the team ready for conference play. I'd rather keep Montana and skip the FBS games every year. Give us the best teams in our league. It's a lot better measuring stick for playoff success than how well we play against a BIG 12 team. We all know this won't happen. Not without either an exponential increase in fan support, or some serious concessions in our football budget. My opinion has been to stop scheduling Montana, or other top tier FCS teams. Our conference schedule is more than enough and the playoff committee doesn't value SOS anyways. O I know it'll never happen. From an experience perspective, we gain nothing from these games. Just a bunch of injuries in a game that really doesn't matter. |
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Post by Yotes on Sept 3, 2022 20:47:57 GMT -6
We all know this won't happen. Not without either an exponential increase in fan support, or some serious concessions in our football budget. My opinion has been to stop scheduling Montana, or other top tier FCS teams. Our conference schedule is more than enough and the playoff committee doesn't value SOS anyways. O I know it'll never happen. From an experience perspective, we gain nothing from these games. Just a bunch of injuries in a game that really doesn't matter. 1) Paycheck that makes the payroll work. Take half a million off our football budget and see what happens. 2) We can, have, and will win some of these games. It might only be about 1/5 of the time, but we've seen it along with some close calls too. I'm frustrated we have to schedule these games that tend to end with disappointment, but they definitely matter. Even a few years ago when we went to Oklahoma and lost by 56. I don't think that game killed our players, and I don't think anyone here had a problem with scheduling that game. Just a reality of our position as an FCS team (unless you are the one that sells out every home game and doesn't need a paycheck). |
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Post by fightsd on Sept 3, 2022 21:09:36 GMT -6
O I know it'll never happen. From an experience perspective, we gain nothing from these games. Just a bunch of injuries in a game that really doesn't matter. 1) Paycheck that makes the payroll work. Take half a million off our football budget and see what happens. 2) We can, have, and will win some of these games. It might only be about 1/5 of the time, but we've seen it along with some close calls too. I'm frustrated we have to schedule these games that tend to end with disappointment, but they definitely matter. Even a few years ago when we went to Oklahoma and lost by 56. I don't think that game killed our players, and I don't think anyone here had a problem with scheduling that game. Just a reality of our position as an FCS team (unless you are the one that sells out every home game and doesn't need a paycheck). I definitely understand the financial side of it. I'm basically just bitching because I've had a bunch of whiskey and am pissed off we got thumped. Does the rest of the conference schedule offensive power houses for their FBS game? We schedule Oklahoma, Oregon, KSU, etc while the Sioux get to go play the school for the blind down in Lincoln. Or state gets to go play an Iowa team that couldn't get a first down to save their lives. |
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Post by usdcoyote on Sept 3, 2022 21:20:32 GMT -6
Well this certainly isn't the performance that ND and sdsu put forth today. ND was very competitive going into the 4th quarter, sdsu was right there all game long. This game felt over a few minutes into it. Very disappointing. Hopefully we can put forth a better performance in these next couple of weeks. This beginning stretch is brutal. To be fair, K-State is likely a much better team than Iowa or (especially) Nebraska. I didn't watch either game, but it seems hard to praise an sdsu team for allowing more points in safeties than they could score on offense. Every MVFC team will gain more yards on sdsu than Iowa did. It seems like Iowa either played a very bad game or will have that stereotypical down year that Kirk has now and again where they win like 4 games. We have looked very bad. Don't get too crazy though. I guess we'll have to see how this year plays out, I don't think it's really debatable that Iowa had the better year last year and has historically been a much tougher place to play than Kansas St. If we are going to point out how many yards sdsu gained today without their stud TE then I think we should also say they are the only fcs team to hold a power 5 team without a td today. I'm hoping for our sake that k st is much better than the 4-5 conference record they showed last year. I'm also hoping Iowa has taken a big step back from the team that won the big 10 west last year. |
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Post by sdyotefan on Sept 3, 2022 21:29:19 GMT -6
Watched Iowa game. They were absolutely terrible on O and great on D! Thier QB is a veteran but was really bad.
K State is way better on O than Iowa and very tough on D.
Anyone know Jensen's issue. Tough to not have your all-American lineman play.
Defensive coverage was very good. Martinez didn't look good throwing but scrambled.
Regroup for the Griz!! Go Yotes!!
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Post by Yotes on Sept 3, 2022 22:01:07 GMT -6
1) Paycheck that makes the payroll work. Take half a million off our football budget and see what happens. 2) We can, have, and will win some of these games. It might only be about 1/5 of the time, but we've seen it along with some close calls too. I'm frustrated we have to schedule these games that tend to end with disappointment, but they definitely matter. Even a few years ago when we went to Oklahoma and lost by 56. I don't think that game killed our players, and I don't think anyone here had a problem with scheduling that game. Just a reality of our position as an FCS team (unless you are the one that sells out every home game and doesn't need a paycheck). I definitely understand the financial side of it. I'm basically just bitching because I've had a bunch of whiskey and am pissed off we got thumped. Does the rest of the conference schedule offensive power houses for their FBS game? We schedule Oklahoma, Oregon, KSU, etc while the Sioux get to go play the school for the blind down in Lincoln. Or state gets to go play an Iowa team that couldn't get a first down to save their lives. Kansas State looks good today, but did they when the game was scheduled? The games are set years in advance. No one knows what the team will look like when the game finally comes. We were supposed to play Iowa State in 2020. For years I had that game on my mind because it was a short trip and an incredibly winnable game. Then all of a sudden they turned up and would have been a mountain of a team to beat that year. UND could have potentially faced a resurgent Nebraska team today, given that the game was scheduled years ago when optimism was very high in Lincoln. No one knows what the future holds. We can moan and complain all we want about playing this team over that team. It's clearly important we have an FBS game on the schedule, and I think keeping them regional is top priority. Kansas, K-State, Iowa State, Wisconsin, Missouri have all been on the schedule recently, or are on the schedule in the coming years. All very regional and recognizable names for football fans. I think that's a whole lot better for all of us than visiting distant or obscure FBS schools. |
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Post by gopheryote on Sept 4, 2022 7:32:38 GMT -6
Going in to Saturday, I thought SDSU and UND would get wins, and USD & Ill St. would need their opponents to do something amazingly bad to keep the games close. From that perspective, I can't get too down on the result. But...
- What was with all the dropped passes? Hard to sustain drives in any game - much less one where we are over-matched - when routine passes for 1st down are just dropped.
- It is one thing to spot the other team 14 points, but this was done in a way that made if feel like we were playing Alabama. KSU seemed like they had olympic-sprinter level speed, and the Yotes were standing flat-footed. Looked like we forgot to get off the bus, and then were shell-shocked.
- I agree with the announcers - the DB's did awesome. Box score shows that Martinez attempted 15 passes. He probably attempted 10 more pass plays, but no one was open, so he ran. He didn't make any mistakes, which were going to be needed to make it a game.
- To state the obvious, the Yotes need Alex Jensen to play.
For some pretty odd reasons, I actually watched the SDSU/Iowa and UND/Nebraska games too. You really can't read in to the various results. Iowa's offense is so bad (since mid-year last season) that it is ridiculous. And their QB wouldn't play for 3/4 MVFC teams (not an exaggeration). SDSU's O-line is not the O-line from past years, and Iowa could call a defensive game that didn't allow any momentum. (SDSU's only points came after a bad INT and an 11 yard drive) UND seemed quicker and had a better gameplan than Nebraska, but was just under-sized, and that caught up eventually. Neither team looked very good. Though the scores don't reflect it, UND was about as close to a W than SDSU - who had the ball and needed 80 yards to win. But it would have taken 4 more quarters of FB to cumulatively get those 80 yards.
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Post by captaincoyote on Sept 4, 2022 8:30:51 GMT -6
I didn't watch last night. I was at the state fair (more on that later) making memories with my 2 year old. But I have to say, we shouldn't put too much stock into this game. KSU is a top 25 team and we were sitting our NFL prospect LT for a redshirt FR going against a pre-season all-Big 12 edge rusher. We'll be fine. go Yotes.
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Post by canislatrans on Sept 4, 2022 9:52:44 GMT -6
Likes:
1) DBs play
2) DLs play - sacks and TFLs
3) Running game, except on 4th downs (though running game obviously overshadowed by the quick 14 pt. setback and by KSU's big runs)
4) Youngsters getting playing time in a 'big game' setting
Dislike:
1) Offense didn't have a "got your back" response to Defense letting TD run on 1st play
2) Blocked punt
3) 0-4 on 4th down
4) Dropped and overthrown passes (a couple would have been sure big gainers/TDs)
5) No Alex Jensen
Eagerly awaiting the Montana game. Last night's game, though a bummer, has really raised my interest in seeing the Yotes matched against an FCS foe, even the #3 FCS team. We won't be playing anyone even remotely as talented as KSU the remainder of the year.
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Post by yoteforever on Sept 5, 2022 15:29:32 GMT -6
Likes: 1) DBs play 2) DLs play - sacks and TFLs 3) Running game, except on 4th downs (though running game obviously overshadowed by the quick 14 pt. setback and by KSU's big runs) 4) Youngsters getting playing time in a 'big game' setting Dislike: 1) Offense didn't have a "got your back" response to Defense letting TD run on 1st play 2) Blocked punt 3) 0-4 on 4th down 4) Dropped and overthrown passes (a couple would have been sure big gainers/TDs) 5) No Alex Jensen Eagerly awaiting the Montana game. Last night's game, though a bummer, has really raised my interest in seeing the Yotes matched against an FCS foe, even the #3 FCS team. We won't be playing anyone even remotely as talented as KSU the remainder of the year. I wished you were right but I don’t think you are. Montana, NDSU are on the same playing field. This isn’t a great K-State team. Maybe 5th/6th in Big 12. The bright side is we played as awful as we could play. That can and has to improve. Ido think we can win Saturday but we have to play fired up. Once again this was an emotionless team. We need to play on fire. |
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