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[marco]

The girls looked tired and slow today having only 8 players will do that

[dbyote]

Jan 28, 2023 17:35:38 GMT -6 marco said:

The girls looked tired and slow today having only 8 players will do that

3 games in 6 days will do that. It's one of the reasons the tournament will be really tough.

[dbyote]

Jan 28, 2023 17:35:38 GMT -6 marco said:

The girls looked tired and slow today having only 8 players will do that

3 games in 6 days will do that. It's one of the reasons the tournament will be really tough.

[90yote]

Jan 28, 2023 18:00:12 GMT -6 dbyote said:

Jan 28, 2023 17:35:38 GMT -6 marco said:

The girls looked tired and slow today having only 8 players will do that

3 games in 6 days will do that. It's one of the reasons the tournament will be really tough.

And 4 games in 8 days.

[MD]

I'm gonna vent a bit. Apologies in advance.

Let's be honest.

How many teams really play more than 8 players significant minutes? I get it might not be the 8 we hoped for, but 8 isn't uncommon at all.

We've played 22 games. At what point does "inexperienced" stop being a thing? 25? 30? 50?

I would like to hear post game the staff taking some blame, instead of throwing at kids effort and inexperience even if they don't really mean it.

[captaincoyote]

I hear what you’re saying, but I see the experience bit a little differently. Most experiential growth doesn’t come until one has a chance to reflect on their experiences. In-season the girls are learning and improving maybe a little more so than everyone else, because they have more space to get better, but not by much which will lead to ups and downs. The off-season is when this year’s struggle will make the biggest difference. Reaping and sowing and all that.

[yotewannabe]

Jan 28, 2023 21:33:22 GMT -6 MD said:

I'm gonna vent a bit. Apologies in advance.

Let's be honest.

How many teams really play more than 8 players significant minutes? I get it might not be the 8 we hoped for, but 8 isn't uncommon at all.

We've played 22 games. At what point does "inexperienced" stop being a thing? 25? 30? 50?

I would like to hear post game the staff taking some blame, instead of throwing at kids effort and inexperience even if they don't really mean it.

That may be true that some teams have an 8 person rotation. But we currently have 8 players for everything. Games and practices! Now that being said even if we were a bit tired we still need to find the energy and effort especially out of the gate. But once again that is something the seasoned veterans of a team usually help bring out. I know we are nearing the end but most of these girls do not have the experience that the situation they are in requires. My positive outlook on it is that hopefully that is what we are building for the future. Hang in there!

[fanatic]

These coaches do not have a clue. They all have the deer in the headlight look.

[marco]

With our top 2 centers out . Our power forward out. 2 guards who are starters are out. I think the coaches are doing well with the young players

[Men's League Waterboy]

Let’s be honest.

It’s not the coaching staff’s fault that you don’t show up to play (against a team that you got lucky to beat by two on the road the first time around) until you’re 30 minutes in and down by 20.

[gopheryote]

Jan 28, 2023 21:33:22 GMT -6 MD said:

I'm gonna vent a bit. Apologies in advance.

Let's be honest.

How many teams really play more than 8 players significant minutes? I get it might not be the 8 we hoped for, but 8 isn't uncommon at all.

We've played 22 games. At what point does "inexperienced" stop being a thing? 25? 30? 50?

I would like to hear post game the staff taking some blame, instead of throwing at kids effort and inexperience even if they don't really mean it.

Agreed. Every now and then you watch a team that has a baffling game plan - I think we were caught with one of those on Saturday. Men's League mentioned it - for 30 minutes we were playing slow on offense and defense - presumably to conserve energy - which is just not this team's identity. They seem to play more natural flying around, going on runs, occasionally throwing a pass into the 3rd row, and score in bunches. Would have liked the coach to acknowledge that we were really outcoached and outplayed. 

[yote18]

Jan 29, 2023 20:26:42 GMT -6 gopheryote said:

Jan 28, 2023 21:33:22 GMT -6 MD said:

I'm gonna vent a bit. Apologies in advance.

Let's be honest.

How many teams really play more than 8 players significant minutes? I get it might not be the 8 we hoped for, but 8 isn't uncommon at all.

We've played 22 games. At what point does "inexperienced" stop being a thing? 25? 30? 50?

I would like to hear post game the staff taking some blame, instead of throwing at kids effort and inexperience even if they don't really mean it.

Agreed. Every now and then you watch a team that has a baffling game plan - I think we were caught with one of those on Saturday. Men's League mentioned it - for 30 minutes we were playing slow on offense and defense - presumably to conserve energy - which is just not this team's identity. They seem to play more natural flying around, going on runs, occasionally throwing a pass into the 3rd row, and score in bunches. Would have liked the coach to acknowledge that we were really outcoached and outplayed. 

Our coaching staff does not appear to be the type to acknowledge when they’re in the wrong. The coaching staff knew they were out matched by Ruth, she’s a darn good coach, and their sideline reactions reminded me more of former NDSU coach Walseth than ones trying to pump up the team.

[profyote]

Jan 30, 2023 10:38:09 GMT -6 yote18 said:

Jan 29, 2023 20:26:42 GMT -6 gopheryote said:

Agreed. Every now and then you watch a team that has a baffling game plan - I think we were caught with one of those on Saturday. Men's League mentioned it - for 30 minutes we were playing slow on offense and defense - presumably to conserve energy - which is just not this team's identity. They seem to play more natural flying around, going on runs, occasionally throwing a pass into the 3rd row, and score in bunches. Would have liked the coach to acknowledge that we were really outcoached and outplayed. 

Our coaching staff does not appear to be the type to acknowledge when they’re in the wrong. The coaching staff knew they were out matched by Ruth, she’s a darn good coach, and their sideline reactions reminded me more of former NDSU coach Walseth than ones trying to pump up the team.

Sorry friends, you lost me at the Maren Walseth reference. If you want to criticize a young staff working with a young team (3 players with any kind of minutes prior to this season), at least try to remember that we're still 3rd in conference with the team that we have on the floor. That includes our starting center who is essentially playing out what would have been her senior year of high school (Demers).

Trust me, I'm as frustrated as all of you are to see that we fell off so significantly from a Sweet 16 team that was almost a guaranteed victory in every Summit game. We've been spoiled with a seemingly never-ending rise since we moved to D1 just over a decade ago.

But let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater. Unless I missed many years of Coyote basketball, what I saw Saturday was far from being outcoached to being outmaneuvered by a veteran team. The scoring drought and ways that we continuously missed assignments happened earlier this season and was very much a measure of an extremely young team...

...who almost completed a comeback and are still in 3rd in the Summit, all things considered.

If you want to say that this is a coaching staff unwilling to take blame, that's fine. But also remember the context of the team. The fact that we're missing 3 seniors and 1 sophomore with the majority of size and experience and are still, somehow, in 3rd place with two bad losses in conference play says a lot for our coaching staff and our program expectations.

Did you remember that we fell to 4th place and lost 1st round of Summit League Tournament in Dawn Plitzuweit's first season? Have patience. This is a rough year but far, far from a place of panic.

[yote18]

Jan 30, 2023 20:09:42 GMT -6 profyote said:

Jan 30, 2023 10:38:09 GMT -6 yote18 said:

Our coaching staff does not appear to be the type to acknowledge when they’re in the wrong. The coaching staff knew they were out matched by Ruth, she’s a darn good coach, and their sideline reactions reminded me more of former NDSU coach Walseth than ones trying to pump up the team.

Sorry friends, you lost me at the Maren Walseth reference. If you want to criticize a young staff working with a young team (3 players with any kind of minutes prior to this season), at least try to remember that we're still 3rd in conference with the team that we have on the floor. That includes our starting center who is essentially playing out what would have been her senior year of high school (Demers).

Trust me, I'm as frustrated as all of you are to see that we fell off so significantly from a Sweet 16 team that was almost a guaranteed victory in every Summit game. We've been spoiled with a seemingly never-ending rise since we moved to D1 just over a decade ago.

But let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater. Unless I missed many years of Coyote basketball, what I saw Saturday was far from being outcoached to being outmaneuvered by a veteran team. The scoring drought and ways that we continuously missed assignments happened earlier this season and was very much a measure of an extremely young team...

...who almost completed a comeback and are still in 3rd in the Summit, all things considered.

If you want to say that this is a coaching staff unwilling to take blame, that's fine. But also remember the context of the team. The fact that we're missing 3 seniors and 1 sophomore with the majority of size and experience and are still, somehow, in 3rd place with two bad losses in conference play says a lot for our coaching staff and our program expectations.

Did you remember that we fell to 4th place and lost 1st round of Summit League Tournament in Dawn Plitzuweit's first season? Have patience. This is a rough year but far, far from a place of panic.

I said that was the sideline vibe I got. Not that she was a reincarnation of her. You are correct tho we are somehow still in 3rd and hopefully we stay there. But let’s stop using dawns first year as a comparison, it makes hers look worse than it was. Dawn still finished 23-9 (11-5) with a fresh starting lineup against tougher competition. She had healthy players which helped out but to compare the two seasons and how they’ve went isn’t justifiable imo.

[Men's League Waterboy]

Plitzuweit inherited a far fuller cupboard than she left.