yote18
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Post by yote18 on Jan 24, 2024 16:38:50 GMT -6
I don’t think at the moment NIL presents as much opportunity on the women’s side compared to the men’s but that’ll change soon though. But even then SDSU is a well established mid major and competes yearly with the “big kids”. Even this year they took a few top 25’s down to the wire. It’ll affect schools that can’t compete but have players that would be assets to teams that can. But the reality is the women’s side doesn’t operate completely the same as the men’s so some of the more established mid majors won’t likely be affected too much. Especially those built with more under the radar players that fit truly only into certain systems. On Coach Karius I’m not the best person to ask on that…. I’ve been open since her initial hire about it being a missed opportunity to hire someone more established in the coaching world lol. My personal thoughts are it’s a hire that will likely end in a wash with no major break throughs and a handful of wall of shame games. I think next year will be her make or break year.
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steelsd
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Post by steelsd on Jan 24, 2024 21:38:58 GMT -6
Stated another way, "The league is really really down this year." I don't know if you can actually state that with any certainty. It's pretty clear the top of the league is down relative to recent years but it's pretty hard to gauge the league as a whole. Based on RPI the SL is ranked 18th this year which is right in the middle of it's rankings over the last 10 years. The highest we have been is 11th in 16-17 and the lowest was 24th in 14-15. So frankly the league is just pretty much average or just slight below average compared to normal. Last year the league was 23rd so one could actually say the league is much better this year than last.
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ndfan
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Post by ndfan on Jan 25, 2024 17:08:08 GMT -6
I don't think you can go sole by RPI rankings or other rankings totally because how much college sports have changed in just the last few years. So much of that is based off preseason conference records and with movement of players from mid-major conferences to upper conferences recruiting developed talent out our conferences we are playing younger and newly put together teams and all know it takes time to put a team together. I believe we have done better job recruiting higher younger players, but that talent takes time to develop and very often by end of season teams with this talent are ones pulling upsets at the end of the season. I think we saw some of that last year. This is why I think level of conference competition is not down but probably up. You and SDSU are looking at it from past few years where you had the teams that kept these players for full four years and with covid getting extra season, so you judge level of play from that viewpoint, but rest of the conference has been seeing this turnover in players for number years and even not more in last two years. I think level of play has gradually been getting better especially in latter half of the conference season and that's why I think the conference tournament is wide open coming this year but maybe SDSU has enough talent to stave it off another year before tournament will become focal point of who goes to NCAA tournament and conference season on who gets to advance to other end of year tournaments.
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steelsd
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Post by steelsd on Jan 25, 2024 18:44:30 GMT -6
I don't think you can go sole by RPI rankings or other rankings totally because how much college sports have changed in just the last few years. So much of that is based off preseason conference records and with movement of players from mid-major conferences to upper conferences recruiting developed talent out our conferences we are playing younger and newly put together teams and all know it takes time to put a team together. I believe we have done better job recruiting higher younger players, but that talent takes time to develop and very often by end of season teams with this talent are ones pulling upsets at the end of the season. I think we saw some of that last year. This is why I think level of conference competition is not down but probably up. You and SDSU are looking at it from past few years where you had the teams that kept these players for full four years and with covid getting extra season, so you judge level of play from that viewpoint, but rest of the conference has been seeing this turnover in players for number years and even not more in last two years. I think level of play has gradually been getting better especially in latter half of the conference season and that's why I think the conference tournament is wide open coming this year but maybe SDSU has enough talent to stave it off another year before tournament will become focal point of who goes to NCAA tournament and conference season on who gets to advance to other end of year tournaments. Well first off I’m the resident SDSU poster so I can speak better about them. I only used the RPI because otherwise it’s really hard to determine how good the conference in general is. Is the middle better than in other years? Who the heck knows? As for staving it off, the Jacks are going to be insane next year. They bring back a POY candidate in Timmer and all conference level player in Thiesen. Then we also add in a large highly touted Freshman class that includes a player ranked in the top 60 of national recruits. Barring injury the SDSU team next year is at least 10-15 points better than this team. As for turnover the SD schools are better insulated against that than are other teams in the conference. We have 1) high level programs that are 2) comprised of mainly local players. The woman’s game has less NIL so things like being close to home for a player tends to help maintain a roster. UND for instance seems much more prone to have transfer issues with a large number of Michigan players. But I do hope that other teams develop players and improve. We need everyone to improve
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Post by Yotes on Jan 25, 2024 20:44:20 GMT -6
On Coach Karius I’m not the best person to ask on that…. I’ve been open since her initial hire about it being a missed opportunity to hire someone more established in the coaching world lol. My personal thoughts are it’s a hire that will likely end in a wash with no major break throughs and a handful of wall of shame games. I think next year will be her make or break year. Herbster knew he was leaving. Very lazy decisions the last year of his tenure.
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Post by kiyoat on Feb 15, 2024 10:49:17 GMT -6
Oral Roberts plays @ NSDU tonight at 7. Not sure what outcome would benefit us most. To me, #2 vs #3 seed doesn't mean that much, just the round 1 opponent. So the Bison beating the Eagles puts us in good position to move up from #4 to #3. I think that's the best outcome. We are only behind ORU by 1/2 game.
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yote18
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Post by yote18 on Feb 15, 2024 15:11:24 GMT -6
Would just depend on if you want be on SDSU’s side of the bracket or not. ORU seems to have fallen apart a little bit but NDSU still has been doing well. I think I’d rather try to play spoiler to NDSU and let someone else attempt SDSU until the finals.
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Post by GoYotes on Feb 18, 2024 16:30:30 GMT -6
I dusted off my trusty abacus and removed the Western Illinois bead and here is my first iteration of the seeds for this year's Summit League tournament:
1 - SDSU 2 - NDSU 3 - ORU 4 - USD 5 - St. Thomas 6 - UND 7 - Denver 8 - Omaha 9 - KC
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Post by soofooyote on Feb 19, 2024 8:37:16 GMT -6
I dusted off my trusty abacus and removed the Western Illinois bead and here is my first iteration of the seeds for this year's Summit League tournament: 1 - SDSU 2 - NDSU 3 - ORU 4 - USD 5 - St. Thomas 6 - UND 7 - Denver 8 - Omaha 9 - KC Oh good, a 4-5 matchup with a team we handled twice in the regular season. Where have we seen this before?
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Post by kiyoat on Feb 19, 2024 10:29:44 GMT -6
Update: as far as standings, looks like NDSU has separated from the pack, joining SDSU in the top tier. Basically taking over the Yotes' spot from years past.
The good news is that we still have a good opportunity to move ahead of ORU, as we are only 1/2 game behind them, and still have to play them a second time. That game will basically be for the 3-seed.
In terms of the NET, SDSU is still far-and-away the best at #61, but that is not an at-large ranking. I haven't looked at bracketology to see what their tourney seed might be, but I can't imagine it is more than 12 or 13. The season has been long enough to have an accurate amount of data, and we are just below NDSU and just above ORU, but it is close. ranked #131.
Beat the teams we should, including ORU and we get the 3-seed. Beat KC in the second round, get beat in either the semifinal or the final.... Play in either the new WBIT or the WNIT. I think that's probably a good outcome for this team. Winning the SLT is certainly possible, but not likely this year.
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Post by kiyoat on Feb 26, 2024 8:48:57 GMT -6
Updated standings and NET - the seeds are locked in, as far at I can tell.
Should be USD v St Thomas in the 4v5 matchup, Jacks in the Semifinal
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yote18
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Post by yote18 on Feb 26, 2024 18:20:43 GMT -6
I have mixed feelings about a potential date with SDSU in the semi were it to happen. I have mixed feelings about the entire SLT for us tbh. I see a path to the title game if the cards align right but I also a path to an embarrassing exit as well. I’m still hoping we play spoiler for the rest.
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Post by GoYotes on Mar 2, 2024 9:49:47 GMT -6
Here are my updated projections for the SLT seeds heading in today's games:
1 - SDSU 2 - NDSU 3 - ORU 4 - USD 5 - Pios 6 - Toms 7 - UND 8 - KC 9 - Mavs
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