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Post by Yotes on Nov 19, 2023 11:58:56 GMT -6
Solid case for NDSU not to be seeded. In that case, I'm concerned they play Drake and then visit Vermillion. Would rather not have that rematch right away. Montana State gets that treatment instead. I thought for sure it was going to be ours.
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Post by kiyoat on Nov 19, 2023 12:08:19 GMT -6
Jacks and Griz with the cakewalks. Regional my ass…
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Post by kiyoat on Nov 19, 2023 12:09:34 GMT -6
We could easily be hosting the Bison or Cats in the quarterfinals in the dome! Big game
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Post by kiyoat on Nov 19, 2023 12:11:14 GMT -6
Looks like YSU was the final team in, according to the selection show
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Post by Yotes on Nov 19, 2023 12:37:22 GMT -6
Jacks and Griz with the cakewalks. Regional my ass… Yes, the regional part is maddening here. 1 and 2 should have the easiest path, but they just threw away geography for them. Let them get all the crap teams from down south and out east.
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Post by Yote 53 on Nov 19, 2023 14:23:56 GMT -6
3 of the 4 Dakota teams in one quadrant with Montana State thrown into the mix. Holy meat grinder. I'll trade the 3 seed for Furman's 7 seed.
We would have been better off losing the WIU game.
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Post by 88grad on Nov 19, 2023 16:04:38 GMT -6
Personally I’d rather earn our way vs playing two cupcakes then getting boat raced in Texas. I’m fine with the path in front of us.
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Post by kiyoat on Nov 20, 2023 6:48:08 GMT -6
No guarantee we see the Hawks again, either. Might be Sac State. Guessing the spread might be close between those schools in the opening round.
I’d rather play MSU than a rematch with the Bison, just because rematches suck in football. There are so few games in this sport. We’ve already proven ourselves against the MVFC. Time for a new challenge.
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Post by kiyoat on Nov 20, 2023 7:05:17 GMT -6
I wouldn’t mind the way they do it (throwing out geography for the 1 and 2 seeds) if they would just write that into their procedures rather than being sneaky about it.
Really the best way would be to assign 16 seeds rather than 8.
They could still use geographical constraints on the first round games. It would produce a more fair second round.
I mean, this is Division-1 football, right? If a team can’t afford to travel in the playoffs, then why are they trying to sponsor that sport? Even the Patriot Pioneer League schools have to travel. Pony up, or reclassify
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Post by Yotes on Nov 20, 2023 7:57:40 GMT -6
Claiming that geography is considered to save on travel costs, then setting up both North Dakota schools to potentially drive through Brookings on their way to a game while sdsu is having every single one of their opponents flown in...it's so nakedly false. I'd call it hilarious if it didn't compromise the competitive integrity of the entire tournament.
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Post by jackjd on Nov 20, 2023 8:00:11 GMT -6
… I mean, this is Division-1 football, right? If a team can’t afford to travel in the playoffs, then why are they trying to sponsor that sport? Even the Patriot League schools have to travel. Pony up, or reclassify The NCAA pays for team travel for the FCS playoffs.
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Post by kiyoat on Nov 20, 2023 8:34:04 GMT -6
… I mean, this is Division-1 football, right? If a team can’t afford to travel in the playoffs, then why are they trying to sponsor that sport? Even the Patriot League schools have to travel. Pony up, or reclassify The NCAA pays for team travel for the FCS playoffs. Gotcha. Well that makes sense, then. Unless there is any major pushback (there won't be), then they will try to save a dime whenever they can. Thanks for the info.
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Post by yoteforever on Nov 20, 2023 8:47:50 GMT -6
Listen, the Jacks have earned their seeding. Sooner or later we have to play good teams. The draw we got is fair. NDSU has to go to Montana State. No small task. If we’re fortunate enough to win first round matchup then we get that winner in the Dome. We beat NDSU once and can beat them again. Montana State is good. Montana is good. Idaho is good.
When you get the #1 seed as State did, you deserve a break. You could’ve taken the 2-7 seeds and threw them in a hat and whatever came out would’ve been logical. Montana is not guaranteed 2 wins either. If they happen to lose either 1st or 2nd game, we then would host the 3rd round game. There isn’t a team say in 1-14 seeds that we can’t beat or get beat by.
You want to be The Man? You beat The Man. This isn’t bragging rights to posture ourselves by saying we won 1 or 2 games. We’re now playing for a national title. We can be in Frisco as easily as any of the others. I even think JackJD would agree they’ll have their hands full with Idaho. Coached by a former Jack coach and the DC a former Coyote coach.
State is really really good. In fact excellent. That said, they can also be beat. We are the one team in the field that I feel can match their physicality. But to prove it, we must win 3 games first. This team we have is different. It changed in the locker room last January and a new culture has set in I’m just glad the President didn’t listen to all the naysayers about Coach Nielsen after the season. 2022 was the equivalent to an abortion. 2023 is a rebirth. This team is special and the foundation is in place for continued success.
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Post by Yote 53 on Nov 20, 2023 9:16:39 GMT -6
I have no problem with the draw SDSU received. Like it's been said, they've earned it.
Putting the 3 other Dakota schools in one quadrant is stupid, though. The MVFC cannibalizing itself gets old, then the committee sets up the playoffs so there is real potential there that our path is loaded with not only MVFC schools but the other Dakota schools. There is a real possibility that, hypothetically, out path to a NC goes through UND, NDSU, Montana, SDSU. Basically, our regular season schedule last year. Wow, what variety. Also, consider this freak stat. The Dakota schools are a combined 28-1 against FCS schools not from the Dakotas this season, the only L was UND's loss to UNI. That's pretty dominant and that's the path we have to go through.
Just saying, if the FCS playoffs were a true national playoff the MVFC/Dakota teams would be spread out throughout the field so we all get to see some new blood. One simple fix to this would have been to slide UND or NDSU down into the Montana quadrant. That would make the field more balanced.
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Post by steelsd on Nov 20, 2023 10:24:40 GMT -6
The idea is starting next year they will seed the top 16 with the top 8 still getting the 1st round bye. The premise is that they committee blindly votes for the seeds and then ranks them in order so there is no conference bias. The teams are ranked by points earned and the only regionality will be the first round matchups with the unseeded teams. Now whether you believe it will actually work this way...
Now I would be all for that system with the ability to tweak teams up or down 1 seed to eliminate inter conference games or season rematches. But when this can effect who gets the home game and who has to travel you can also clearly stake a claim that you do blind voting and the seeds are made by the process of those votes and stick with it.
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