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Post by Coyote Fan on Dec 4, 2011 13:30:51 GMT -6
After the UND game but Before Meierkort was let go 70% thought we should not make a change at head coach. We will see if that number changes now.
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Post by sd4ever on Dec 4, 2011 13:44:56 GMT -6
Just voted for Joe. I told Mr. CF a couple of years ago that he would be the next coach of the Yotes. You do remember that don't you?
I'm excited again. Slow but sure The Coyotes will start kicking some butt.
Go South Dakota! Go Yotes! Go Joe Glenn! Forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Coyote Fan on Dec 4, 2011 20:28:38 GMT -6
SD4ever is right. He told me 2 years ago that he could see Joe Glenn being the next coach at USD. SD4ever I know you were getting frustrated with how things were going so I am glad to see you are firmly entrenched back on board that Coyote Train as you used to say. We need to hear about how there will be more nuclear mushroom clouds developing over the Danger Dome as the Yotes dismantle one team after another next to the newly built SD4ever arena housing Coyote Fan court. The train is leaving the station once against after being dormant for a few years. The conductor will be Joe Glenn with SD4ever being inside scooping coal into the engine.
If some of you didn't know SD4ever had to relocate to Arizona. Somehow some way SD4ever was probably an intrigal part of enticing Mr. Glenn into coming back to coach the Yotes. Were you there with Sayler and Herbster giving your influence about how badly USD football needed a jolt?
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Post by yoteforever on Dec 5, 2011 8:23:30 GMT -6
After the UND game but Before Meierkort was let go 70% thought we should not make a change at head coach. We will see if that number changes now. Coyotefan, I want to congratulate you on leading one bandwagon of fans down a path where Ed got fired. You were successful doing so, so you are to be commended for your efforts. There is no question that I was close to the program, and in being so, I fully understood what the strengths and weaknesses of Ed were. As an outside observer , Ed certainly gave you enough ammunition to get fired. No doubt about it. There were coaching issues, personal issues, and administrative issues. But at the end of the day, if you are a booster of the program, you have to ask yourself " are we better off with Ed, or without Ed"? You certainly can argue either way on that issue. What I believe riled you and some other posters were the late season losses at Poly and ND. And for what it's worth, I was watching the stream from Poly and was pissed myself. But the reason for Eds dismissal was not for that reason. That was the issue I had with the firing, I am fairly certain he was never given a job performance reviews. Now back to if we were better off with Ed or not. Ed brought USD football out of the doldrums. We were back on the map. For the most part, he played an exciting brand of football and people like that. He put some players in the NFL, and recruited some of the most exciting players we have ever seen darken our doors. The level of "booster" giving had risen at a fairly fast rate. We did beat a Big 10 football team, had a number of storied wins over ranked opponents, and season ticket sales had increased. Lastly, he did guide us through transition very successfully. Now let's fast forward to today. I believe with all my heart AD Sayler is doing a great job. He had his reasons ( albeit ) different than yours for firing Ed. I support him in that as much as I want to defend a close friend. It is time for the Coyotes to move forward. And the JG hire is not good, it is fantastic. But don't go freaking out on the new coch when you find out that Wes is being retained and promoted to Associate Head Coach. I will back Coach Glenn with as much passion as I did Ed. That's what die hard supporters do. And I bleed Coyote Red. But I want to leave you coyotefan a couple of things to digest and think about. I don't know what you do for a living, but if you got fired ( out of left field in your mind ) without having anyone tell you in a performance review things you needed to improve upon, wouldn't you and your friends be upset. Especially if a couple of your friends had invested a substantial amount of money into the company you used to work at? I think knowing you as I do from this board you would freak out. In closing coyotefan, your threads are unbelievable. You lead a campaign to fire Ed ( successfully done I may add) , then you start a TRIBUTE TO ED MEIERKORT thread which was offensive to me and friends of Ed. Then lastly to triumphantly validate your awesome decision making you start a thread in which you once again make Ed look like an idiot and yourself a genius leader of the Coyote Nation. I do love the JG hire. We are very fortunate to have him on board. But please stop these non- sensical threads of validating Coach Meierkorts firing. You are inconsistent at best. In all of this, hat gets lost on me is this. Right before you started your Fire Ed campaign, you were banned from the board. Yet you got to keep posting.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2011 8:36:57 GMT -6
Someone on the SDSU fans board said that Joe Glenn was really the mentor for Wes Besschomer and that in a few years he would turn the reins over to Wes. This notion makes sense, and might be a very good move. Beschomer is indeed your future.
I think at age 62 and having a taste of retirement, I dont think you will see the same Joe Glenn as you saw at UNC. I could be wrong, but at age 62, well you reach for the Aleve more often than you think. Good luck to the Yotes on their new hire.
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Post by Cousin Eddie on Dec 5, 2011 9:06:09 GMT -6
At the end of the day, I ask myself this question: Let's say everything else stayed the same (i.e. asst. coaches, training staff, etc.), except that JG is the head coach instead of EM. Is the team better off? I have to say that I believe it is. Joe brings in the cache, leadership, experience, and perspective that is necessary to raise this team to the next level - whatever that "next" level might be.
So, then when you consider that other things will change and will, in theory, improve. This is a no brainer move.
In a perfect world, I would like to see guys like Sprage, Breske (Jr.), and Wes stay on for continuity, and then have JG bring in Mike Breske and a couple other solid assistants, then we are looking great for the future.
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Post by Yote 53 on Dec 5, 2011 9:18:10 GMT -6
Was just going to start another thread on this...well, I think I will because coaching staff discussions don't belong in this thread.
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Post by coyotebiz on Dec 5, 2011 13:35:54 GMT -6
After the UND game but Before Meierkort was let go 70% thought we should not make a change at head coach. We will see if that number changes now. Coyotefan, I want to congratulate you on leading one bandwagon of fans down a path where Ed got fired. You were successful doing so, so you are to be commended for your efforts. There is no question that I was close to the program, and in being so, I fully understood what the strengths and weaknesses of Ed were. As an outside observer , Ed certainly gave you enough ammunition to get fired. No doubt about it. There were coaching issues, personal issues, and administrative issues. But at the end of the day, if you are a booster of the program, you have to ask yourself " are we better off with Ed, or without Ed"? You certainly can argue either way on that issue. What I believe riled you and some other posters were the late season losses at Poly and ND. And for what it's worth, I was watching the stream from Poly and was pissed myself. But the reason for Eds dismissal was not for that reason. That was the issue I had with the firing, I am fairly certain he was never given a job performance reviews. Now back to if we were better off with Ed or not. Ed brought USD football out of the doldrums. We were back on the map. For the most part, he played an exciting brand of football and people like that. He put some players in the NFL, and recruited some of the most exciting players we have ever seen darken our doors. The level of "booster" giving had risen at a fairly fast rate. We did beat a Big 10 football team, had a number of storied wins over ranked opponents, and season ticket sales had increased. Lastly, he did guide us through transition very successfully. Now let's fast forward to today. I believe with all my heart AD Sayler is doing a great job. He had his reasons ( albeit ) different than yours for firing Ed. I support him in that as much as I want to defend a close friend. It is time for the Coyotes to move forward. And the JG hire is not good, it is fantastic. But don't go freaking out on the new coch when you find out that Wes is being retained and promoted to Associate Head Coach. I will back Coach Glenn with as much passion as I did Ed. That's what die hard supporters do. And I bleed Coyote Red. But I want to leave you coyotefan a couple of things to digest and think about. I don't know what you do for a living, but if you got fired ( out of left field in your mind ) without having anyone tell you in a performance review things you needed to improve upon, wouldn't you and your friends be upset. Especially if a couple of your friends had invested a substantial amount of money into the company you used to work at? I think knowing you as I do from this board you would freak out. In closing coyotefan, your threads are unbelievable. You lead a campaign to fire Ed ( successfully done I may add) , then you start a TRIBUTE TO ED MEIERKORT thread which was offensive to me and friends of Ed. Then lastly to triumphantly validate your awesome decision making you start a thread in which you once again make Ed look like an idiot and yourself a genius leader of the Coyote Nation. I do love the JG hire. We are very fortunate to have him on board. But please stop these non- sensical threads of validating Coach Meierkorts firing. You are inconsistent at best. In all of this, hat gets lost on me is this. Right before you started your Fire Ed campaign, you were banned from the board. Yet you got to keep posting. Kudos on this post.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Dec 5, 2011 16:48:17 GMT -6
Let me say one thing to start off. I have absolutely no agendas whatsoever. I have a certain way of looking at things and my only real wish is to have a legitimate threat to be a winner. Ed was never going to produce that because IMO he never learned enough from his mistakes and successes. He could never sustain winning momemtum without taking steps backwards. Ed could not win on the road and that is one of the biggest telling aspects of the solidarity of the team. To me how a team performs on the road is very tellling of a team in general. They tended to fall apart when things got tough. That is hard to argue.
I know alot of people follow the Yotes closely and I have as well over time. I am usually one of the first to start game threads etc. I don't mean to ring my bell, I really don't but I do have a very keen recollection of the teams and their history. I remember alot of things about the history of a particular program such as the football team. I use all that knowledge when I make posts.
I have always liked Meierkort as a person. I like his personality. Tell we how I am really any different than Sayler. He fired Meierkort yet talked well of him right afterwards. I basically did the same thing with no power. I did lead a bandwagon or sorts but this is a rough business. Coaches know full well these types of jobs are not regular jobs. Coaches come and go and get fired all the time. Knowing Sayler and Herbster I figured they would be able to hire a better coach than the outgoing coach because of the drastically changed circumstances.
I just listened to something Sayler just said today. I don't know the exact words but Sayler said that people cannot be affraid to succeed. All I can say is BINGO that is exactly correct. Too many people compare what we are going know to what we did at one time. Just because the Yotes have been down for years doesn't mean that Meierkort should be allowed to be average and stay on the job. As a D2 coach moving to D1 he needed to be more than average. Why, because if not there was a Joe Glenn waiting in the wings to bring something more to the table.
Remember we are not comparing ourselves to how we did in D2 but rather what SDSU and NDSU are now doing in D1. Both programs have much better accomplishements than what we have shown so far. If we don't think we need to keep up than it's a losing path that we will probably follow.
I am so glad Sayler said what he did. He said that coaches basically need to come to work and expect to win. Thank god we have an AD that thinks that way. I know I think that way. Do other Coyote fans also think that way?
This is not Coyote sports of old. We have different goals and different expectations. I have been saying we need to reach for the stars. I just simply don't think Ed was going to be able to take us to a MVFC title. The team would never have been able to be consistant enough to do so.
What happened over the last 2 weeks is exactly what I had envisioned and hoped would happen. It's because I don't put up with mediocracy on a long term basis. My way of not putting up with it is posting about it. I have peace with my life. I don't need people on a message board to agree with me. I have personally been laid off from a job so I know what it's like to have to start over. It sucks but it's part of life.
As I said I absolutely don't have an agenda with anything other than wanting to see a winner and when I don't see it as likely I will say something. I have always been willing to elaborate on anything I have said and as much as people would disagree I am a very positive person in life. I would be willing to get to know any of you that ever want to talk Coyote sports. I have befriended SD4ever when many people may have thought he was a jerk. I don't judge people and I can tell you that he is an outstanding person in real life. I know him and he knows me and we accept that and have a good long distance fiendship.
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