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Post by jackl on Mar 17, 2012 18:30:18 GMT -6
Only Yotes fan would talk smack after the Jacks just sent both teams to the big dance. Not the sharpest tools in the shed...
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Post by jackjd on Mar 17, 2012 19:02:25 GMT -6
"SDSU - You can go anywhere from here....(when you start at rock bottom, you can only go up!)" ".....when here is nowhere!" I think it is fortunate that there will be some objective points from which people can measure whether snarky comments like the above are justified. SDSU's record is out there for scrutiny and comparison. Will USD get to the dance in the same number of years? I guess we'll see. And if USD gets there in the same time or even a year or two earlier, USD will certainly have something to brag about. And if USD doesn't get there in the same number of years (and keeping in mind that the conference is now a little softer without Oral Roberts)...well, we'll have something to talk about. Time will tell.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Mar 17, 2012 20:38:53 GMT -6
Ahhh, this thread shows that Coyote Nation is still more against the Jacks winning than for them, which is just the way it should be if the rivalry is a true rivalry. True rivals don't cheer for one another. That's just the way it is. NDSU is not a true rival with SDSU because they cheer for each other way too often. I don't wish ill will on the Jacks like hoping their plane crashes on the way to a tourney but I definately don't cheer for them to win.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Mar 17, 2012 20:44:16 GMT -6
When USD won in football against Minnesota you didn't hear half as much and likely much less than that, than what we are hearing about SDSU right now. The Argus certainly didn't create a contest like they did the 3 Point thing that they started. Talk about ridiculous. SDSU wants to have it all. They are the media darlings of South Dakota where they basically get most of the attention at the expense of all others, than their fans wonder why everyone doesn't cheer for them. The media bias in their direction is exactly the reason. Terry V is so ridiculously entrenched in his SDSU rose garden that he had no idea about how the rivaly actually does effect the outcome of games. I bet Terry had no idea how excited Coyote fans could get at home and was probably left dazed and confused when he left the Dome that night, than four nights later when the rug was pulled from under the beloved Lady Jacks and had defeat handed to them.
I invite the rest of South Dakota and the region to get behind the Yotes to even the score a bit. SDSU and the attention they get makes me throw up in my mouth.
Like I said before. The Jacks can do what they want but they aren't winning in Vermillion.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2012 21:11:50 GMT -6
I was openly rooting against SDSU last night because once the brackets were announced there were too many arrogant SDSU fans on Twitter saying how Baylor did not present much problems for them and all SDSU had to do was shoot well.While I know SDSU is a good team and the game was closer because I thought Baylor did not take SDSU seriously, many on Twitter thought they were going to win by Wolters alone and just the tweets were awful. I am glad Baylor beat them, and I am also glad I have Duke beating Baylor because the Bears did not come to play last night for 2/3 of that game. That surprises me as I thought Baylor was probably the worst matchup of all 3 & 4 seeds. I'm sure you're over emphasizing here, but still.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2012 21:14:02 GMT -6
Ahhh, this thread shows that Coyote Nation is still more against the Jacks winning than actually cheering for their own team, which is just the way it should be if the rivalry is a true rivalry. True rivals don't cheer for one another. That's just the way it is. NDSU is not a true rival with SDSU because they cheer for each other way too often. I don't wish ill will on the Jacks like hoping their plane crashes on the way to a tourney but I definately don't cheer for them to win. Fixed it for you All kidding aside, I'm not sure what all the hate is for in this thread. Jealousy maybe? SDSU made it to the Big Dance finally and they will have a pretty good shot at getting there next year. Baylor was a winnable game, although they were a terrible matchup. These games are called upsets for a reason. SDSU would lose to Baylor 95 out of 100 games, but there's always that 5% chance that makes this tournament so great. Anways, haters are gonna hate and Naters gonna Nate.
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Post by jackl on Mar 17, 2012 21:19:56 GMT -6
When USD won in football against Minnesota you didn't hear half as much and likely much less than that, than what we are hearing about SDSU right now. The Argus certainly didn't create a contest like they did the 3 Point thing that they started. Talk about ridiculous. SDSU wants to have it all. They are the media darlings of South Dakota where they basically get most of the attention at the expense of all others, than their fans wonder why everyone doesn't cheer for them. The media bias in their direction is exactly the reason. Terry V is so ridiculously entrenched in his SDSU rose garden that he had no idea about how the rivaly actually does effect the outcome of games. I bet Terry had no idea how excited Coyote fans could get at home and was probably left dazed and confused when he left the Dome that night, than four nights later when the rug was pulled from under the beloved Lady Jacks and had defeat handed to them. I invite the rest of South Dakota and the region to get behind the Yotes to even the score a bit. SDSU and the attention they get makes me throw up in my mouth. Like I said before. The Jacks can do what they want but they aren't winning in Vermillion. Comparing beating a crappy Big 10 bottom feeder to what the Jacks accomplished this year is laughable.
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Post by sdsportsfan2010 on Mar 17, 2012 21:21:35 GMT -6
When USD won in football against Minnesota you didn't hear half as much and likely much less than that, than what we are hearing about SDSU right now. The Argus certainly didn't create a contest like they did the 3 Point thing that they started. Talk about ridiculous. SDSU wants to have it all. They are the media darlings of South Dakota where they basically get most of the attention at the expense of all others, than their fans wonder why everyone doesn't cheer for them. The media bias in their direction is exactly the reason. Terry V is so ridiculously entrenched in his SDSU rose garden that he had no idea about how the rivaly actually does effect the outcome of games. I bet Terry had no idea how excited Coyote fans could get at home and was probably left dazed and confused when he left the Dome that night, than four nights later when the rug was pulled from under the beloved Lady Jacks and had defeat handed to them. I invite the rest of South Dakota and the region to get behind the Yotes to even the score a bit. SDSU and the attention they get makes me throw up in my mouth.Like I said before. The Jacks can do what they want but they aren't winning in Vermillion. Im not a Jack fan or a Coyote fan. Just a fan of SD sports, high school and college. And everytime i read one of your posts no matter where it is, i throw up in my mouth. And its not just Terry and the Argus. Are you pissed at KELO for all their coverage too?
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Post by Roman on Mar 17, 2012 21:57:28 GMT -6
"SDSU - You can go anywhere from here....(when you start at rock bottom, you can only go up!)" ".....when here is nowhere!" I think it is fortunate that there will be some objective points from which people can measure whether snarky comments like the above are justified. SDSU's record is out there for scrutiny and comparison. Will USD get to the dance in the same number of years? I guess we'll see. And if USD gets there in the same time or even a year or two earlier, USD will certainly have something to brag about. And if USD doesn't get there in the same number of years (and keeping in mind that the conference is now a little softer without Oral Roberts)...well, we'll have something to talk about. Time will tell. My bad for posting in this thread. The context was not meant to be athletics. I was off on a tangent after having read the previous post. When I read it I couldn't help but make fun of the bunnies catch phrase. There is no doubt the bunnies have a great women's program. One that would be difficult for any program to replicate. The men also have a great point guard and was fortunate enough not to have to go through Oral Roberts as well. Count me as a South Dakotan who didn't bother watching State play. Why? I just can't bring myself to do it after reading the bunny board over the years. I've let it make me jaded and cynical. Reading TV's coverage doesn't help matters either. The best I could hope for is to stop reading both and let the healing begin:-) The truth...i haven't read the board in two yrs but i just cant forget and I've recently stopped reading the argus since moving west river and their implementation of online subscriptions. I guess the healing will take a long time! Again, my apologies for confusing the original topic. Off to pack for the Dome where SD is hosting Pac-12 Colorado on Monday night in the 2nd round of the post season WNIT. Go Yotes!!!!
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Post by Coyote Fan on Mar 18, 2012 0:16:50 GMT -6
When USD won in football against Minnesota you didn't hear half as much and likely much less than that, than what we are hearing about SDSU right now. The Argus certainly didn't create a contest like they did the 3 Point thing that they started. Talk about ridiculous. SDSU wants to have it all. They are the media darlings of South Dakota where they basically get most of the attention at the expense of all others, than their fans wonder why everyone doesn't cheer for them. The media bias in their direction is exactly the reason. Terry V is so ridiculously entrenched in his SDSU rose garden that he had no idea about how the rivaly actually does effect the outcome of games. I bet Terry had no idea how excited Coyote fans could get at home and was probably left dazed and confused when he left the Dome that night, than four nights later when the rug was pulled from under the beloved Lady Jacks and had defeat handed to them. I invite the rest of South Dakota and the region to get behind the Yotes to even the score a bit. SDSU and the attention they get makes me throw up in my mouth. Like I said before. The Jacks can do what they want but they aren't winning in Vermillion. Comparing beating a crappy Big 10 bottom feeder to what the Jacks accomplished this year is laughable. Sorry to break it to you but beating IUPUI, Southern Utah and barely Western Illinois in front of a home crowd is less of an accomplishmen than beating Minnesota in their house regardless of how bad they are. USD in front of a big partisan crowd could pull of the same threesome than what the Jacks pulled off. As soon as the Jacks start to play against a crowd that isn't totally partisan to them and it's a different ballgame. My gosh by all admissions the Yotes weren't that good in Mens ball and still beat the Jacks. The final score wasn't indicitive of the play either. USD controlled most of the game. If SDSU keeps Stig, I am calling it now that USD will surpass them in football in 2 years. In the Women's game the Yotes have made up alot of ground very quickly and are not far behind. Aaron Johnston has already considered leaving the program once and would probably do so again if the opportunity presented itself. Ryun Williams on the other hand is at his alma mater already so him leaving is far less likely. In Mens basketball it was only 2 short years ago that USD finished with a higher season ending RPI. Despite all the success and media love toward South Dakota State College USD is nipping at those Jackrabbit heals ready to devour.
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Mar 18, 2012 2:27:09 GMT -6
I was openly rooting against SDSU last night because once the brackets were announced there were too many arrogant SDSU fans on Twitter saying how Baylor did not present much problems for them and all SDSU had to do was shoot well.While I know SDSU is a good team and the game was closer because I thought Baylor did not take SDSU seriously, many on Twitter thought they were going to win by Wolters alone and just the tweets were awful. I am glad Baylor beat them, and I am also glad I have Duke beating Baylor because the Bears did not come to play last night for 2/3 of that game. That surprises me as I thought Baylor was probably the worst matchup of all 3 & 4 seeds. I'm sure you're over emphasizing here, but still. Guess you missed Seth Davis proclaim Baylor dead when he said SDSU would beat them...and all the Jacks fans started kissing his butt when Seth Davis is a less credible than Charles Barkley when it comes to college bball.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2012 7:27:37 GMT -6
That surprises me as I thought Baylor was probably the worst matchup of all 3 & 4 seeds. I'm sure you're over emphasizing here, but still. Guess you missed Seth Davis proclaim Baylor dead when he said SDSU would beat them...and all the Jacks fans started kissing his butt when Seth Davis is a less credible than Charles Barkley when it comes to college bball. So obviously you were exaggerating. Seth Davis isn't an SDSU fan and he was just stirring up people and doing his job. His last comment before the game started was 'please don't lose by 40 and make me look bad'. I highly doubt he actually thought State was going to win. But he would have looked like a genius had they won! So back to the original post. Do you actually have proof of people thinking Baylor poses no problems or are you just stirring the pot too? Everything I read on SDSU's fan site and Twitter had people saying SDSU has a shot but Baylor obviously is the better team. Were there some that thought SDSU would win? Duh....but you have CF. I'd think you'd know better than to let stuff like that get to you. I come here hoping for some interesting discussions but all I see in this thread is a bunch of whiny babies who are a little jealous of States success right now. Things will change a little bit with USD I have no doubt. But y'all need to be a little more patient. You're just getting through the transition.
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Post by yoteforever on Mar 18, 2012 8:10:46 GMT -6
Let me start by saying this to the SDSU fans posting on our board. Remember it is our board, not yours. I was given that advice on your board more than once when I wanted to have "open debate and general discussion" involving both schools.
As you know, I have been pounded many times on your board for being frank and candid, so you should expect no less up to this point. However, where I may slightly depart from my Coyote friends is I would like to get to the point where discussions can be had, debates made without the "launching of grenades". This can only be done by those that don't have extreme hate for the other, or if they do, can resist throwing out the rhetorical insults.
I think it would be fun and healthy to have a debate. Coyotefan makes a good point, and that our win at Minnesota was bigger than yours against Western Illinois with a home crowd. If you had beaten Oral Roberts, then I would have maybe said otherwise. But you didn't. Any Coyote fan that disses your accomplishments might need to rethink what they truly mean. However, until we can come to each others board and debate and discuss without the foolish insults, this is how it will stay.
I can think of a number of State posters that really do come on board he and either wish us the best or have have fun discussion or things to think about. JackJD, KUlawJack, and some others do have balanced thinking. But what totally rankles our fan base is e arrogance you have when we come to your board. Other than a few good guys over there, your posters for the most part make the stupidest accusations against out teams that I have ever heard. And the one that you all HAVE to get over is WE WERE FIRST. We know you went first. But I do believe if you check the history of our schools, we were the first university. So what. Just like you going first.
Overall, I do think your program is ahead of ours at this point in time, but as you always say, we were first by 5 years, so you should be. Now, realistically evaluate the two programs from the 11-12 seasons, and tell me you are 5 years ahead. And yes we all know that we don't have baseball or wrestling or equine, but let's compare the teams.
1.). FOOTBALL.
We never played but obe could make the argument based on comparative scores that either one of us could have won that game. Most likely the home team would have won. But we didn't play, but you have to admit it would have been close.
2.). MEN'S BASKETBALL
your teams have gotten progressively better over time, but the FACTS are we split.
3.). WOMEN'S VOLLEYBALL
by far your best sport over the duration of time, and quite accomplished. The FACTS are we split
4.). WOMENS VOLLEYBALL
USD sweeps the Jacks. That's the fact.
5.). WOMES SOCCER
I believe SDSU swept the Coyotes ( too lazy to look up). That's the FACT
Son in all reality, are you so far ahead as posters on your board claim, or are you in fact about where we are?
In closing, I would like to set up a discussion thread where no smack or stupid innuendos could be posted. But not sure how to do that. I am personally in favor of it.
But COYOTEFAN has it right when he says there isn't much difference in the state of each others programs now.
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Post by newtousd33 on Mar 18, 2012 8:19:08 GMT -6
Comparing beating a crappy Big 10 bottom feeder to what the Jacks accomplished this year is laughable. Sorry to break it to you but beating IUPUI, Southern Utah and barely Western Illinois in front of a home crowd is less of an accomplishmen than beating Minnesota in their house regardless of how bad they are. USD in front of a big partisan crowd could pull of the same threesome than what the Jacks pulled off. As soon as the Jacks start to play against a crowd that isn't totally partisan to them and it's a different ballgame. My gosh by all admissions the Yotes weren't that good in Mens ball and still beat the Jacks. The final score wasn't indicitive of the play either. USD controlled most of the game. If SDSU keeps Stig, I am calling it now that USD will surpass them in football in 2 years. In the Women's game the Yotes have made up alot of ground very quickly and are not far behind. Aaron Johnston has already considered leaving the program once and would probably do so again if the opportunity presented itself. Ryun Williams on the other hand is at his alma mater already so him leaving is far less likely. In Mens basketball it was only 2 short years ago that USD finished with a higher season ending RPI. Despite all the success and media love toward South Dakota State College USD is nipping at those Jackrabbit heals ready to devour. This is the outlook that more fans need. Let's face it we have to get better....SDSU is ahead of us in almost every sport and every facet of athletics...and they should be. Why they were focused on going DI and getting better we (including the USD athletic department) were focused on pointing out that it was a mistake and trying to prevent them from moving in the first place. We know have a venue to settle the score....on the field, court, ect. What I worry about the most is the difference in excitement. They nearly sell out their first WNIT game...we draw 1300. They net 1million from ticket revenue we net -400k...that all all goes back to excitement. The media (argus/news) isn't suppose to promote a program and doesn't but it does cater to the masses and right now SDSU has the masses. Win and win consistently (not just against state but within the mvfc and summit league) and that will change but it will take time and effort. So stop blaming the argus or wining about state...it comes across as jealous and just supports what I typed above.
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Post by sdsportsfan2010 on Mar 18, 2012 8:54:31 GMT -6
Comparing beating a crappy Big 10 bottom feeder to what the Jacks accomplished this year is laughable. Sorry to break it to you but beating IUPUI, Southern Utah and barely Western Illinois in front of a home crowd is less of an accomplishmen than beating Minnesota in their house regardless of how bad they are. USD in front of a big partisan crowd could pull of the same threesome than what the Jacks pulled off. As soon as the Jacks start to play against a crowd that isn't totally partisan to them and it's a different ballgame. My gosh by all admissions the Yotes weren't that good in Mens ball and still beat the Jacks. The final score wasn't indicitive of the play either. USD controlled most of the game. If SDSU keeps Stig, I am calling it now that USD will surpass them in football in 2 years. In the Women's game the Yotes have made up alot of ground very quickly and are not far behind. Aaron Johnston has already considered leaving the program once and would probably do so again if the opportunity presented itself. Ryun Williams on the other hand is at his alma mater already so him leaving is far less likely. In Mens basketball it was only 2 short years ago that USD finished with a higher season ending RPI. Despite all the success and media love toward South Dakota State College USD is nipping at those Jackrabbit heals ready to devour. Nebraska beat Indiana this year in basketball. Does that make Nebraska better than Indiana? Its the way it is in college basketball. Winning on the road is tough. And when its a rival, its even tougher. Going to the NCAA Tourney is more of an accomplishment than beating the Goofers. Everyone beats them. Ask NDSU Duke was playing in their backyard Friday and couldnt beat Lehigh. I hope you have the same opinion when USD wins 3 games at the new events center to make the NCAA Tourney. Im guessing you wont.
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