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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Nov 23, 2012 21:43:51 GMT -6
An NAIA team comes in and plays with USD the whole night. This is a major reason to be concerned since it sounds like turnovers were the main problem.
As I saw on Twitter, this team goes as Juevol Myles goes and he had 24 points, but at Trevor Gruis said, if this team plays like that against Summit League schools, they are going to lose by 30.
Okay, I get this is a young team and so many new faces, but shouldn't this team still be able to beat a good NAIA team by the average of 27 points it has in the past?
USD may have got the win, but this is very troubling.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 24, 2012 0:03:00 GMT -6
This has just been a very rough start to this athletic season. It's as if everything that can go wrong will go wrong this year. The Women lost to Pepperdine by 16 tonight and now slip to 1-4.
The Coyote is one wounded animal so far in 2012. I sure hope 2013 goes better than the fall of 2012 is going. This is like a nightmare that won't end for USD athletics.
For Men's basketball I can see the letdown for a game against an inferior opponent that was one day after Thanksgiving. SDSU barely beat Southwest Minnesota State a couple of days ago.
We should judge this team how they do against IUPUI and Western Illinois. That is going to be the biggest and best measuring stick. After those games it's fair to start seeing longer term trends.
Realistically the Yotes have played two games that they were really not expected to win against Gonzaga and Wyoming although I would have liked to see a better effort against the Cowboys. They played a winable game to start the year and were beaten. They played a team in NCC that beat Southern but the Yotes defeated them so they showed quite a bit of improvement.
If the Yotes drop both games at home and open the Summit 0-2 than I expect a full list of coaching candidates to replace Boot's from CF#2.
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Post by Iceman on Nov 24, 2012 0:13:22 GMT -6
Wow there was NO defense from the coyotes tonight. There are some good offensive players on this team, but something needs to be done with the defense.
On a side note, Van Goor said on the radio after the game that he talked to Culver Stocktons coach before the game and they are picked to finish 10th in their conference. Either this voting was done early on, or the coaches have no idea what is going on. Culver Stockton has almost all Juco's and transfers from other schools.
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Post by obc on Nov 24, 2012 11:53:32 GMT -6
Attended the game and the team looked out of their rhythm most of the game. That being said Culver-Stockton was never going to win that game.
Argus write up of the game is titled: Coyotes survive brush with Culver-Stockton. Typical face slap treatment by the Argus. (Stu Whitney as editor writes article titles mostly not Mick)
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Post by redwhiteandyote on Nov 24, 2012 15:42:20 GMT -6
obc, WRONG. I highly doubt Stu writes the headlines, don't they have people at night who do that stuff?
And again, going right to the Argus? I doubt there was some massive conspiracy by a freelance writer for an NAIA game. Other media was there, I suggest looking at those stories first if you have such a problem with the Argus.
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Post by obc on Nov 24, 2012 16:53:12 GMT -6
obc, WRONG. I highly doubt Stu writes the headlines, don't they have people at night who do that stuff? And again, going right to the Argus? I doubt there was some massive conspiracy by a freelance writer for an NAIA game. Other media was there, I suggest looking at those stories first if you have such a problem with the Argus. The argus leader is the regional paper of record in SD whether you recognize it or not. the argus is the paper that has the most distribution and local content. I do look at those other media outlets and they do not have the readership or reach of the Argus. Stu is the head Sports Editor and does deal in the titles of articles - wasn't asking a question.
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Nov 24, 2012 20:45:18 GMT -6
obc, WRONG. I highly doubt Stu writes the headlines, don't they have people at night who do that stuff? And again, going right to the Argus? I doubt there was some massive conspiracy by a freelance writer for an NAIA game. Other media was there, I suggest looking at those stories first if you have such a problem with the Argus. The argus leader is the regional paper of record in SD whether you recognize it or not. the argus is the paper that has the most distribution and local content. I do look at those other media outlets and they do not have the readership or reach of the Argus. Stu is the head Sports Editor and does deal in the titles of articles - wasn't asking a question. Sometimes the people in Des Moines that put together the paper make the headlines. While the argus has more readership, the Yankton press & Dakotan has more usd content than any paper and their website is Yankton.net so you don't have to use that argument. Day after thanksgiving is the excuse? Gee, I remember a ton of games yesterday and a Minnesota player going nuts. That is a poor excuse, plain and simple. If this was the football team, you would've flown in maleness devour yourself. Pretty sure I could give you some names for coaches now, too. Luckily, usd came out and played like they should against a much weaker opponent. So that helps a bit. Guessing boots have them a talking too, but from listening to gruis he might not have had to. A good bounce back game.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 24, 2012 22:19:14 GMT -6
It's simply too early to judge this team. I didn't judge the football team until they were well into conference play and showed the best they would do is lose close games. I am hoping the Yotes sweep their opening home stand in the Summit and start 2-0. Maybe that is too much to ask but it sure would be a nice way to start the season.
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Nov 25, 2012 2:22:20 GMT -6
It's simply too early to judge this team. I didn't judge the football team until they were well into conference play and showed the best they would do is lose close games. I am hoping the Yotes sweep their opening home stand in the Summit and start 2-0. Maybe that is too much to ask but it sure would be a nice way to start the season. Always changing the rules for your favor. This was an NAIA team usd struggled with do there was major reason to be concerned. Luckily it was ironed out Saturday. But if this team does not improve its defense soon, say hello to the bottom of the summit.
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Post by chuck on Nov 25, 2012 8:48:58 GMT -6
"The argus leader is the regional paper of record in SD whether you recognize it or not the argus is the paper that has the most distribution and local content."
I know it was Waldorf and I don't know the back story, but personally found it disappointing that the "regional paper of record in SD" mailed it in last night--no beat writer at the USD game and same level of coverage as SD Tech on today's website (two paragraphs and a box score). The P & D is clearly providing a much higher level of USD coverage.
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Post by obc on Nov 25, 2012 8:55:16 GMT -6
One of the problems is if you go to the Yankton Press & Dakotan website to read articles on Sunday morning you don't have anything new. Go look right now and there is an article previewing the Jacks Playoff game and a wrap up from USD vs Culver-Stockton.
The Argus is updated daily.
I agree that it is disappointing there is no mention of the WBB teams first victory over a Big East team.
USD needs to make some headway with the Argus and get better exposure.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 25, 2012 15:41:05 GMT -6
One of the biggest problems is that USD fans just don't engage with their teams or read enough articles compared to what SDSU fans do. USD has to do more things worthy of coverage to get the coverage. SDSU has made about 5 times more positive headlines with their athletic department as has USD. 2 playoff births, 4 NCAA tourney appearances for their women, 1 for their men. The volleyball team made a good run, their baseball team gets a few spring season headlines. SDSU gets more coverage but they are also worthy of more coverage because the accomplishments don't compare. Just look at the fans at Coughline Alumni last weekend. USD fans are out there but simply don't care about their alma mater as much as SDSU fans do at least when it comes to athletics.
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Post by Cousin Eddie on Nov 25, 2012 18:20:47 GMT -6
Dude, they were writing tons of articles and getting tons of press when they were terrible too.
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Post by redwhiteandyote on Nov 25, 2012 19:50:18 GMT -6
when i go to a website, i expect new stories, like obc pointed out.
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Nov 25, 2012 20:54:54 GMT -6
Yeah SDSU did get a lot of articles when they struggled. Better stories and coverage lead to more readership. USf had a better beat writer (still does) when they were NAIA.
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