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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Nov 30, 2012 2:53:30 GMT -6
The sf game was 75 percent of the crowd from Verm that made the trip and there weren't 900 people that's for sure.
Also, Myles said the crowd support was great and to bring that energy every night.
Small crowd but that's a positive. A shout out from him to the people that made the trek and they deserved it.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 30, 2012 3:46:53 GMT -6
I am going to delete the original post since there really isn't an attendance issue.
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Post by yoteforever on Nov 30, 2012 8:29:00 GMT -6
I don't know what the attendance numbers were last night, but it was poor. Not only were the numbers small, the noise factor was nil. I am losing faith in our fan base and becoming totally disgruntled. I am really starting to think that no one gives a crap, and that bothers me to no end.
Fans don't stand on their feet and cheer. The students play no role in what should be a home court advantage. Hell, last night when the Coyotes made their run to eventually tie it up, and WIU called time out, 2/3 of the adults stayed in their chairs, and finally the marketing guy for USD, who wears a headset at the scores bench, finally stood up and yelled over the mic for the kids to stand up and cheer. He blasted them, and I have to tell you, I admire him for doing it. He was pissed off and totally frustrated. Give this guy a raise. He finally had the guts to blast the fans.
I drove 2 hours each way last night, and it was worth it. This is a vastly improved team from last year. Far more athletic. The future looks a little brighter.
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chuck
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Post by chuck on Nov 30, 2012 9:47:08 GMT -6
I really enjoyed last night's game, too, but admit I've been thinking about attendance this morning as well.
I was actually encouraged by the number of students there last night--maybe I have lost perspective but it seemed like there were more there than any game last year other than SDSU. We just need a few more "crazies" to set the tone. Let's face it, pretty much everyone that takes the time to show up wants to see the Yotes do well, and those last minutes of the 2nd half were REALLY ENJOYABLE when everyone in the dome was standing up and making noise. I am sure everyone in the Dome preferred that atmosphere in the final minutes to the previous 3/4 of the game--it is kind of a mystery why it isn't that way more often.
One thing I have noticed is that generally Coyote crowds are "reactively loud" (i.e., in response to a good play, on 3rd down during football games, when basketball games are close at the end). However, I would also like to see us transition to also being "proactively loud." For example, Bison fans in SF were consistently into it on 1st and 2nd down--not just 3rd. More people need to take the lead in making some noise earlier in games before it is getting down to the wire.
I have mixed feelings on the PA guy directly addressing the students--that is somewhat an example of enthusiasm/passion being contagious. It is my suspicion that many of the students wanted to be up and cheering, just no one wanted to be the only one. However, it also might have been a little misguided--those students were actually there! I would prefer that it comes from within the student body...
Finally, like I said, enthusiasm is contagious. I know we need the gate $, but I wonder what would happen if we lowered ticket prices so more people could catch Coyote fever. Perhaps more people would come and it wouldn't be that much of a financial difference--especially if we were gaining in atmosphere/home advantage, etc. Ticket prices could eventually rise, but right now we need to build the fan base. Let's face it USD is located in a small, working class town. 1,500 is a pretty good percentage of the population of Vermillion (yes I know people outside of Vermilion come to games too). Would love to see it consistently higher. Winning could help, but we need to be thinking of other ideas, too.
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Nov 30, 2012 10:12:23 GMT -6
I am going to delete the original post since there really isn't an attendance issue. No there is an attendance problem. Just was saying what Myles said after the game and the energy. I am more apt to agree with the other 2 takes since they were they. Good job by the pa guy to scold the students.
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Post by yoteforever on Nov 30, 2012 12:06:49 GMT -6
I forgot to post one thing. A huge shout out to the band, and some of their fun and crazy members. Kudos to you. You always are fantastic. I loved the horse head guy. He even went to the opposite end to disturb a free throw shooter and tried to get the students there to participate. Great job USD band. You are awesome.
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Post by sleuth on Nov 30, 2012 12:33:44 GMT -6
no the attendance was not great but it was a heck of a lot better than last year. The crowd was not into it until they made their run and the cheering was mediocre once they did, but again, it was better than last year. The players noticed the slightly bigger crowd and many of them gave "shout outs" over twitter and facebook thanking them. This should have been a win. A few things i took away were, 1. we play much better in an up tempo game, our half court offense is to stagnant. The weave only works if someone looks to attack and kick out, or get to the rack. We don't do either one. Pick and rolls with flack and gruis would probably work well.
2. while our man to man defense is not very good, it is a much better option than that god awful 2-3 Zone.
3. we have good guards and we like to shoot threes, but without using and inside out game it is a lot harder to get your shooters open looks. Give flack and Gruis a touch or two so that the defense has to respect them, once that happens when they get the ball and the defense collapses they can kick it out to myles, casperbaur, rowson, boots or whoever else is out there and they will have nice open looks. Not to mention this will give the offense a Little better flow.
5. We NEED to rebound better. Only half the team boxes out or goes to the boards. Other teams have at least 3 guys going to the boards on both ends, sometimes 4 or 5 guys. Cleaning up the boards will eliminate alot of second chance points/extra possession's for the other team.
6. turnovers are still a problem and that just comes down to players getting used to each other and being on the same page. practice practice practice.
one last comment then i will be done rambling. I hope the coaching staff (as I'm sure they have) noticed a few of these points and tweak things that will benefit this team. Boots has had success in the past but i think he needs to break the mold, throw out his old stubborn ways, and use whatever method best fits this team. not whatever method he prefers/has used in the past. Great coaches will create a game plan that plays into the strengths of their current players instead of forcing a style of basketball that doesn't fit the team. Over all i think with a little tweaking we will be much improved from last year!
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Nov 30, 2012 13:38:55 GMT -6
I forgot to post one thing. A huge shout out to the band, and some of their fun and crazy members. Kudos to you. You always are fantastic. I loved the horse head guy. He even went to the opposite end to disturb a free throw shooter and tried to get the students there to participate. Great job USD band. You are awesome. The band has been great for the past few years. Wish the students would take their lead at some point. Good point yoteforever.
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Post by obc on Nov 30, 2012 13:54:48 GMT -6
Is there any organized get together of alumni bad members at football or basketball games? For Football - Seems to me it would be awesome to have a set tailgate spot every home game for any alumni band member that want s to come - bring food, beer, and your instrument. Would be really fun. Could also organize a pre-game performance or halftime with the current band.
At basketball pick a few games and send an open invitation and have them perform with the current band.
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Post by GoYotes on Nov 30, 2012 19:45:33 GMT -6
Great idea obc. Anything that reconnects alumni should be explored.
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Post by coyote70 on Nov 30, 2012 22:25:25 GMT -6
Didn't Wisconsin have an alumni band perform during the FB game vs USD last year? Thought they were called the "Decrepids" or something of that nature.
Couple of thoughts if this gets going: 1) all members must be, or at least appear to be, sober; and 2) a kazoo (sp) is NOT a band instrument.
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Post by wrj on Dec 1, 2012 8:13:53 GMT -6
Didn't Wisconsin have an alumni band perform during the FB game vs USD last year? Thought they were called the "Decrepids" or something of that nature. Couple of thoughts if this gets going: 1) all members must be, or at least appear to be, sober; and 2) a kazoo (sp) is NOT a band instrument. If you are interested in an alumni band, you should follow the example of success. I was at the game in the 2011 season that this alumni band group reunited. It was quite impressive: www.lhab.org/
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Post by yoteforever on Dec 2, 2012 9:23:30 GMT -6
The Coyotes come out of the first home stand 1-1 in the Summit. Had our chances to be 2-0, but we seriously need to make the Dome a hard place to play from a crowd perspective. This team is a lot better, and far more athletic than last years team. These guys deserve a hell of a lot better turnout and noise than they are getting. Our students are a joke, except or the band. Never thought I would see the day our band was crazier than our football team. In the 70s the armory was a pit and we made it even more difficult because the non basketball student athletes I.e. football players took overvthatbgym and whipped the crowd into a frenzy. Our football team is about as much of a factor at a basketball game as they are in a football game. Yeah, that's right, I'm calling you out. Man up, act like asses, get loud, and be someone. This team needs you. Be a leader.
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Post by coyote70 on Dec 2, 2012 10:25:00 GMT -6
Ahhh, the days of "New Armory". The lid was almost blown off that place nearly every game back then. "Frenzy" is a good way to describe the atmosphere. The only problem was how to cool down after games.
Sometimes I even felt sorry for the opposing team. They never had a chance (and they knew it).
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Post by sdyotefan on Dec 2, 2012 22:29:30 GMT -6
Yes the "New Armory" was amazing for fan support. Many times in my yrs from 67-71 we stood and yelled the whole game. Our crowd was a HUGE factor in many games. I looked it up tonight--On 1/15/68 we played Creighton and beat them 90-82. Two days prior at Creighton they beat Oklahoma City 88-86 and Oklahoma City was ranked 8th in the NCAA poll on 1/2 (UCLA was #1). My HS buddie came up from Creighton to watch the game and was in shock that the Yotes beat them. We did not have a real strong team that year (besides Jack Theeler) but they sure played inspired BB that night thanks in part to great STUDENT/FAN support!!!
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