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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Jan 6, 2013 19:40:12 GMT -6
Yes, I misread it, sorry. But I guess you missed the part where Tulane won 3 conference games in the "Vaulted" Conference USA last year, including an 11-point loss to Wofford. Yes, Tulane beat Wofford this year, but Wofford got invited to a postseason tourney. Also, Tulane got an invite to the Big East, which led to the collapse of the Big East. Tulane is so bad, that there are 7 schools that will create their own conference because they feel Tulane is that awful. Evansville's 9 wins in the Missouri Valley is not only 6 wins better than Tulane, but I would argue at least 16 wins better than Tulane with how worse the Conf. USA is than the MV. Also, Bowling Green was 9-7 in the MAC, a bad conference but they were able to win games. Tulane was ravished by Hurricane Katrina and many have wondered if they need to drop down to D-2 because how bad that program got hit, actually. Tulane used to be respectable, now I don't know if they are a D-I program, honestly. In terms of Wolters, he chose SDSU which shows that he is clearly a D-I player. Augie was in it, good for them, but Wolters ended up where he belongs and there is a talent gap from D-II to D-I, no doubt, or else a lot more players would transfer if that was the case. Fair enough. You've proven that Tulane is a few losses worse than teams that offered one of your players. That's a lot of time and effort put in to barely prove a point, but that's cool. At the same time, Tulane got invited to the Big East, which isn't exactly a step below the Summit League by most people's standards. And I'm pretty sure their entire league didn't collapse because a new team was added and people were unhappy about it. I'd imagine it takes a lot more than that to destroy a major D1 conference, particularly behind the scenes. But I guess I don't know enough about it to say so with certainty. Again, never said there wasn't a talent gap. There is. You guys are D1. There should be a talent gap. My point is that no one player from your team would change Augustana basketball forever. No one basketball player changes a basketball program forever, just for 4 years, or however long they are there. Bill Russell, one of the greatest college basketball players, went to San Francisco. How's that paying off for them today? I don't see UCLA living on John Wooden's legacy yet. THey cherish it but they know it won't win them championships now. Duke has new players come in year in and year out and I think the only person that is attributed to is a coach, not a player. No player can change the any program forever. Augie could get the top player in the nation, and still not win the NSIC the first year he is gone. Your "no player changes all of Augie's basketball future" is just....a Skip Bayless line. I think after struggling against the worst team in the NSIC, even though Augie is 5-2 in conference, it proves that Kasper of Flack would make a huge difference for Augie and change that program in the four years they are there, along with Rowson and Myles, who transferred from K-State, btw. Also, wasn't Kasper a major reason USD beat SDSU, so yes, he would make a MAJOR impact right away at Augie and change the fortune of that team in four years. In terms of looking up that stuff for Tulane, it took all of 5 minutes. Just went to ESPN.com and looked at the standings, and yes, Tulane played a big factor in the demise of the Big East. Boise State was like...ummmmm no....once they were added and the 7 Catholic schools found it a disgrace to have to that team considered Big East. That conference is collapsing so fast and Tulane is playing a role as the main schools are looking at other conferences because Tulane isn't competing in anything and it was a joke that they were added. Mr. Augie, you came here saying there is no talent gap but argue that a D-I player on a D-II team wouldn't make a difference. We get it, Augie will probably just miss out on the D-II playoffs by choking it away, but you don't need any of our starters.
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Jan 6, 2013 19:48:48 GMT -6
And I love how we are talking about how Augustana couldn't use USD players when Augie's biggest concern is fending off a school that just moved up from NAIA and is threatening their whole recruiting base. Maybe that should be the concern, not what players USD has.
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Post by mraugustana on Jan 6, 2013 23:52:01 GMT -6
Fair enough. You've proven that Tulane is a few losses worse than teams that offered one of your players. That's a lot of time and effort put in to barely prove a point, but that's cool. At the same time, Tulane got invited to the Big East, which isn't exactly a step below the Summit League by most people's standards. And I'm pretty sure their entire league didn't collapse because a new team was added and people were unhappy about it. I'd imagine it takes a lot more than that to destroy a major D1 conference, particularly behind the scenes. But I guess I don't know enough about it to say so with certainty. Again, never said there wasn't a talent gap. There is. You guys are D1. There should be a talent gap. My point is that no one player from your team would change Augustana basketball forever. No one basketball player changes a basketball program forever, just for 4 years, or however long they are there. Bill Russell, one of the greatest college basketball players, went to San Francisco. How's that paying off for them today? I don't see UCLA living on John Wooden's legacy yet. THey cherish it but they know it won't win them championships now. Duke has new players come in year in and year out and I think the only person that is attributed to is a coach, not a player. No player can change the any program forever. Augie could get the top player in the nation, and still not win the NSIC the first year he is gone. Your "no player changes all of Augie's basketball future" is just....a Skip Bayless line. I think after struggling against the worst team in the NSIC, even though Augie is 5-2 in conference, it proves that Kasper of Flack would make a huge difference for Augie and change that program in the four years they are there, along with Rowson and Myles, who transferred from K-State, btw. Also, wasn't Kasper a major reason USD beat SDSU, so yes, he would make a MAJOR impact right away at Augie and change the fortune of that team in four years. In terms of looking up that stuff for Tulane, it took all of 5 minutes. Just went to ESPN.com and looked at the standings, and yes, Tulane played a big factor in the demise of the Big East. Boise State was like...ummmmm no....once they were added and the 7 Catholic schools found it a disgrace to have to that team considered Big East. That conference is collapsing so fast and Tulane is playing a role as the main schools are looking at other conferences because Tulane isn't competing in anything and it was a joke that they were added. Mr. Augie, you came here saying there is no talent gap but argue that a D-I player on a D-II team wouldn't make a difference. We get it, Augie will probably just miss out on the D-II playoffs by choking it away, but you don't need any of our starters. Wowsers. I literally JUST said there IS a talent gap in my last post. I just meant any single player from USD's roster might not come in and be a huge, must-have addition to Augie's roster. Yes, they would be good. Yes, by the time they were seniors they would probably be really good. I just haven't seen anyone on USD's team that made me wish they played for Augie the way Flack does (looking at this year's Augie team, as well as their future roster). That's the point I've tried to make from the beginning. To your point about Augie being 5-2, we actually have an extremely young team this year. It's supposed to be a rebuilding year for Augie, so bringing up that we're 5-2 in the conference doesn't bother me as much as you probably think it should. As far as USF goes, I don't think Augie fans are quite as worried about them as you'd like to think we are. At least in the basketball realm, they're not that much of a threat. I don't think we'd mind if they weren't in the NSIC with us, but, for at least the next several years to come, they won't be a serious threat to us in men's basketball. To your final point, no Augie fans are "worried" about what players USD has. This whole thing started because I said Flack is going to be a good player for you guys and I wouldn't mind if he played for Augie. Obviously, since he plays for USD, we should never dream of having a player of his caliber on our roster, so I don't know what I was thinking when I made that comment. I obviously don't understand basketball. My mistake guys. P.S. - To your point, littleyote, not that many players have had solid D1 offers that I'm aware of. The ones I know of for sure are Corey Macintosh, Cody Schilling, Alex Richter, Dan Jansen, Zach Huisken, Evan Pierce, Drae Murray (a D1 transfer), and I believe Nick Bennett (who was a JUCO transfer). Other than Bennett, I know the other ones for sure had D1 offers or played D1 basketball before coming to Augie. There may be others, but I wouldn't be sure who they'd be (or who offered them). Obviously if your point is that it's not even enough to equal an entire D1 team, you're absolutely right. But there are a number of players who have had D1 offers playing for Augie right now. As for your rhetorical question, no, they don't play in a huge, multi-million tournament. Not that yours do either at this point, but I'm sure in a few years they'll have a chance to, which is obviously the point. I get why players choose D1 over D2 and I'm not trying to argue that yours shouldn't be playing at the D1 level. I simply meant I didn't think they'd be overwhelming powerhouses at the D2 level. Obviously that's been met with a substantial amount of disagreement on here, which is fine. I don't think I'm changing anybody's mind, no matter what I say, so I'm either doing a poor job of defending my argument (which is what I'd imagine most/all of you think) or I'm stuck in the mud trying to make a point in hostile territory. It's all good to me. It's not like any of these comments offend me or anything. Augie's a D2 program--although I would have preferred we go D1 like everyone else around here did--and frankly, my intent was never to insult your program at all. It was just to compliment a player and it got turned into this chaos. Which, as I said before, has been fun to discuss, even if some of you guys are getting a little hot in the pants about it.
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Post by yoteforever on Jan 7, 2013 7:13:52 GMT -6
No disrespect intended, but no one really cares about Augustana basketball. Most of us cheer for them, but as far as taking space or time on here, no one cares. But you are right in an earlier post where there aren't that many people posting. You are welcome to contribute, update us on Augie, but please don't pick a fight or start an argument with one of our regular posters. Good luck the rest of the season.
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Post by littleyote on Jan 7, 2013 7:28:43 GMT -6
May want to check your fact source on those players that had d-1 offers. As you stated before "interest" is different from an actual offer.
My guess is that there is way more to being div 1 player than the athleticism you referred to in Flack. I did not follow Flack enough in high school to know weather he will have the div-1 player mentality or not. Boots chose him so I would say the odds are good that he will, time will tell.
There is no doubt in my mind that you are a Augie fan, or former div-2, player. There has always been that attitude of we are the greatest players to ever live. We are all div-1 quality players that chose to play at div-2. The whole sioux falls region has been made well a where of this fact the last few years (mostly by the Augie players) that you do not need any help in being the areas best.
I am also very confident that you are young. Give yourself another twenty or thirty years and you will understand the difference between div-1 and div-2 players. It has alot to do with maturity and the "mental" part of the game. Read some (or listen to) post game interviews by players of both divisions, see if you notice a difference. Not a lot of d-1 players saying in an interview "they love ME here".
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Post by mraugustana on Jan 7, 2013 8:30:03 GMT -6
May want to check your fact source on those players that had d-1 offers. As you stated before "interest" is different from an actual offer. My guess is that there is way more to being div 1 player than the athleticism you referred to in Flack. I did not follow Flack enough in high school to know weather he will have the div-1 player mentality or not. Boots chose him so I would say the odds are good that he will, time will tell. There is no doubt in my mind that you are a Augie fan, or former div-2, player. There has always been that attitude of we are the greatest players to ever live. We are all div-1 quality players that chose to play at div-2. The whole sioux falls region has been made well a where of this fact the last few years (mostly by the Augie players) that you do not need any help in being the areas best. I am also very confident that you are young. Give yourself another twenty or thirty years and you will understand the difference between div-1 and div-2 players. It has alot to do with maturity and the "mental" part of the game. Read some (or listen to) post game interviews by players of both divisions, see if you notice a difference. Not a lot of d-1 players saying in an interview "they love ME here". Couldn't be more wrong with most of your assessment, but once again, that's ok. Definitely not a former Augie player, just a former student and current fan. And like I said before, I don't think Augie has the greatest players to ever live. If we did, we would have made it out of the Regional and at least made it into the Final Four sometime in the last 5-6 years (which, we haven't). And really, even that would have nothing to do with having the greatest players that ever lived. Merely reaching the Final Four with that level of talent would really be a letdown in reality. And while I'm probably not quite as young as you think I am, in the grand scheme of things, I really don't care what you do or don't think about my age. As far as your post game interviews comment, I'd love for you to find one post-game interview (written or broadcast) where someone from Augie talks about how "they love ME here" or even implies that. Even Cody Schilling, Augie's all-time leading scorer, spent most of his post-game interviews complimenting players, coaches, and even fans for games that they won, not himself. It's ridiculous to state that there are D2 players out there talking about "me" instead of the team just because they aren't playing at the D1 level. Anyway, to your final point, here's a list of the players I mentioned: -Corey Macintosh - transferred from Iowa State. Assuming that counts as a D1 offer. -Drae Murray - transferred from Sam Houston State. Assuming that counts as a D1 offer. -Cody Schilling - rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Cody-Schilling-52878-Dan Jansen - rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Daniel-Jansen-125419 (also, as I mentioned before, I'm not 100% sure on Tulane in the 1st place, and if I'd heard correctly, he got offered by UNO about a day before he chose Augustana, and at that point his mind was made up, but it doesn't look like they're listed online) -Zach Huisken - rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Zach-Huisken-113498, www.verbalcommits.com/players/zach-huisken-Alex Richter - rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Alex-Richter-99876-Evan Pierce - rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Evan-Pierce-102647-Only other player I listed was Nick Bennett who I believe had D1 offers but had to go JUCO and then transferred to Augie last year. I can't dig up any info on him because it was awhile back. It's also why I said maybe on him. Trust me. After the comment I made before, I checked quite a bit into which of our kids had offers. You guys might not think they're all the greatest D1 offers in world, but that wasn't the point of this anyway. I was never trying to imply that every kid on Augie's roster is a D1 player. I just don't think the talent gap is SO drastic as most of you think it is that one single player from USD would make that much of a difference. Either way, you asked about Augie's kids with D1 offers (and tried to make me look like an uninformed idiot with your comment), so I figured I'd fill you in.
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Post by mraugustana on Jan 7, 2013 8:39:34 GMT -6
No disrespect intended, but no one really cares about Augustana basketball. Most of us cheer for them, but as far as taking space or time on here, no one cares. But you are right in an earlier post where there aren't that many people posting. You are welcome to contribute, update us on Augie, but please don't pick a fight or start an argument with one of our regular posters. Good luck the rest of the season. This is probably the best post I've seen from you guys out of this discussion. Once again, I appreciate the level-headed response. I don't expect anyone on here to care about Augie basketball. I wasn't trying to make people care about Augie basketball. I was simply saying that Flack will be a good player for you guys. Responses to that could have been along the lines of, "Yes, we're excited about Flack's future as a Coyote," or "Yeah, he'll be good. He has some work to do, but that combo of athleticism and grittiness will pay off in a couple of years," or even, "Eh, I like our guys like Kasperbauer and Bos more, but Flack definitely has the potential to be a good player for us." Instead, it turned into "Augie's players aren't good, get out of our message board, idiot Augie fan." Like I said, that's fine with me. Obviously it's not the most welcome environment for someone who isn't bringing a "Coyotes are awesome!" perspective, so I don't intend to check this forum on a daily basis by any means, and I doubt few-to-none of you care about Augie's status anyway, so I don't have a burning desire to come on here and talk about Augie (although I do appreciate the offer, and I mean that with absolutely no sarcasm). I just don't think many folks on here care at all about Augie, and they have no reason to. My point wasn't to pick a fight with anyone, but I'm not going to run off with my tail between my legs if someone turns around and mocks me or condescends me for a comment I just made. I at least want to jump on and defend myself. Coyote fans might not agree with me but, for all I know, there might be other folks who read and don't post that might actually like what I said. Or there might not be. Either way, I wasn't trying to pick a fight with anyone--especially anyone specific, since I've barely looked at who is posting what so far when I'm responding--I'm mostly just defending my points and enjoying the challenge of the discussion. It's really not any different if I make any comment at all on the SDSU forum. Usually the first response I get on there (no matter what it is I've said) is a much less mature, "Augie sucks, shut up you spoiled rich kid." So this has been a delight in comparison. If the rules of the forum are "don't talk too much about another team on here," I'll be happy to remove myself from the discussion, as I'm not trying to be a problem on here. I just figured it was a friendly-ish conversation about basketball talent. Once again, thanks for the level-headed response.
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Post by Yote 53 on Jan 7, 2013 8:48:49 GMT -6
This "talent gap" between D1 and D2 conversation sounds eerily similar to the same one USD fans were making when SDSU and NDSU went D1 and we were still D2. USD fans at that time were the ones saying there wasn't THAT much of a difference between D1 and D2.
Mr. Augie Fan, I'm here to tell you that we have lived (and are still iving through the transition) and USD fans can tell you there absolutely IS a difference in talent and quality of play between the two levels. We have learned that fact through some very trying times that we are still growing our way through. This fact is true in both basketball and football. The talent is better and the teams are deeper with talent, bottom line. For proof of that all one needs to do is go to a game and open their eyes.
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Post by mraugustana on Jan 7, 2013 9:02:41 GMT -6
This "talent gap" between D1 and D2 conversation sounds eerily similar to the same one USD fans were making when SDSU and NDSU went D1 and we were still D2. USD fans at that time were the ones saying there wasn't THAT much of a difference between D1 and D2. Mr. Augie Fan, I'm here to tell you that we have lived (and are still iving through the transition) and USD fans can tell you there absolutely IS a difference in talent and quality of play between the two levels. We have learned that fact through some very trying times that we are still growing our way through. This fact is true in both basketball and football. The talent is better and the teams are deeper with talent, bottom line. For proof of that all one needs to do is go to a game and open their eyes. Right. There HAS to be a talent gap between D1 and D2. If there wasn't, it would all just be one huge division of teams. I know that and am not arguing that there's a gap. My point is that, whether you guys want to look at it this way or not, (and recognizing this is my opinion and it probably won't be shared by anyone else on here) USD is still definitely climbing the hill of getting to that consistently-higher talent level, which you basically said in your response to me. I mean, you guys can admit that the Coyotes aren't, and have yet to be, as good as Oral Roberts consistently was in the Summit League, or even as good as SDSU and NDSU have been in the Summit League these past few years. You guys aren't exactly a high-finishing team in the Big 10 or the SEC. So yes, there is a talent gap. Yes, that gap will continue to increase as long as USD is D1 and Augie stays D2. But right now, today, this season, I don't think the gap is as drastic as you all tend to think it is. There will never be a way to prove it, so some of you are correct that it's a pointless discussion. Even if Augie does have a chance to play USD anytime in the next 3 years and Augie won, it would be defended with "Well this is OBVIOUSLY Augie's SuperBowl, so of course they'd be ready to play us." Which is exactly what SDSU fans are saying about USD at the moment. But I bet you guys would argue that with SDSU fans if it came up, just like I'd argue it with you guys if it came up. Either way, there is and should continue to be a widening talent gap. I don't think it's as drastic as you guys would like to believe it is at this very moment. I can open my eyes and see quite a few kids who are just at a step or two above the D2 level and could have easily chosen the D2 route and nobody would have been shocked and flabbergasted. If you had some overwhelming amount of high-caliber Division I talent, you guys would be winning the Summit League, not simply competing in it. And I DON'T mean Augie would win the Summit League either, so don't take it that way. I just meant that, if the gap were as drastic as you say it is, you guys wouldn't be 7-10 right now with a win over SDSU as your biggest win of the season so far. Like I said, as long as Augie stays D2, that gap will widen, but it's not so long ago that you guys were at the D2 level, and your overall talent level hasn't jumped THAT far since making the transition. Besides, your team as a whole should have more talent. But the individual cogs of that team aren't exactly lighting the world on fire at your level right now either.
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Post by yoteforever on Jan 7, 2013 9:50:38 GMT -6
This "talent gap" between D1 and D2 conversation sounds eerily similar to the same one USD fans were making when SDSU and NDSU went D1 and we were still D2. USD fans at that time were the ones saying there wasn't THAT much of a difference between D1 and D2. Mr. Augie Fan, I'm here to tell you that we have lived (and are still iving through the transition) and USD fans can tell you there absolutely IS a difference in talent and quality of play between the two levels. We have learned that fact through some very trying times that we are still growing our way through. This fact is true in both basketball and football. The talent is better and the teams are deeper with talent, bottom line. For proof of that all one needs to do is go to a game and open their eyes. Right. There HAS to be a talent gap between D1 and D2. If there wasn't, it would all just be one huge division of teams. I know that and am not arguing that there's a gap. My point is that, whether you guys want to look at it this way or not, (and recognizing this is my opinion and it probably won't be shared by anyone else on here) USD is still definitely climbing the hill of getting to that consistently-higher talent level, which you basically said in your response to me. I mean, you guys can admit that the Coyotes aren't, and have yet to be, as good as Oral Roberts consistently was in the Summit League, or even as good as SDSU and NDSU have been in the Summit League these past few years. You guys aren't exactly a high-finishing team in the Big 10 or the SEC. So yes, there is a talent gap. Yes, that gap will continue to increase as long as USD is D1 and Augie stays D2. But right now, today, this season, I don't think the gap is as drastic as you all tend to think it is. There will never be a way to prove it, so some of you are correct that it's a pointless discussion. Even if Augie does have a chance to play USD anytime in the next 3 years and Augie won, it would be defended with "Well this is OBVIOUSLY Augie's SuperBowl, so of course they'd be ready to play us." Which is exactly what SDSU fans are saying about USD at the moment. But I bet you guys would argue that with SDSU fans if it came up, just like I'd argue it with you guys if it came up. Either way, there is and should continue to be a widening talent gap. I don't think it's as drastic as you guys would like to believe it is at this very moment. I can open my eyes and see quite a few kids who are just at a step or two above the D2 level and could have easily chosen the D2 route and nobody would have been shocked and flabbergasted. If you had some overwhelming amount of high-caliber Division I talent, you guys would be winning the Summit League, not simply competing in it. And I DON'T mean Augie would win the Summit League either, so don't take it that way. I just meant that, if the gap were as drastic as you say it is, you guys wouldn't be 7-10 right now with a win over SDSU as your biggest win of the season so far. Like I said, as long as Augie stays D2, that gap will widen, but it's not so long ago that you guys were at the D2 level, and your overall talent level hasn't jumped THAT far since making the transition. Besides, your team as a whole should have more talent. But the individual cogs of that team aren't exactly lighting the world on fire at your level right now either. I like this guy. He has a passion for a school he cares about genuinely. I can identify with him. I personally believe if we were to play Augustana in their gym, we could possibly get beat. My bet is it would be a close game. I think the better D-2 schools have quite a bit of talent, and it wouldn't be all that rare for them to knock off some D-1 schools along the way, much the same way FCS football teams have knocked off FBS teams. The game of basketball is really unusual that way. How else do you explain SDSU beating New Mexico in THE PIT and USD losing to NDSU by a million or so, then 2 nights later beating the Jacks. All I ask you to do is remember you are on the Coyote board. But what the hell, I go to the Bunny Board and fire away much the same way. I'll defend USD till the bitter end, and all he is doing is the same thing defending Augie. He's actually made me want to follow them now. Carry on.
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Post by mraugustana on Jan 7, 2013 11:08:22 GMT -6
Right. There HAS to be a talent gap between D1 and D2. If there wasn't, it would all just be one huge division of teams. I know that and am not arguing that there's a gap. My point is that, whether you guys want to look at it this way or not, (and recognizing this is my opinion and it probably won't be shared by anyone else on here) USD is still definitely climbing the hill of getting to that consistently-higher talent level, which you basically said in your response to me. I mean, you guys can admit that the Coyotes aren't, and have yet to be, as good as Oral Roberts consistently was in the Summit League, or even as good as SDSU and NDSU have been in the Summit League these past few years. You guys aren't exactly a high-finishing team in the Big 10 or the SEC. So yes, there is a talent gap. Yes, that gap will continue to increase as long as USD is D1 and Augie stays D2. But right now, today, this season, I don't think the gap is as drastic as you all tend to think it is. There will never be a way to prove it, so some of you are correct that it's a pointless discussion. Even if Augie does have a chance to play USD anytime in the next 3 years and Augie won, it would be defended with "Well this is OBVIOUSLY Augie's SuperBowl, so of course they'd be ready to play us." Which is exactly what SDSU fans are saying about USD at the moment. But I bet you guys would argue that with SDSU fans if it came up, just like I'd argue it with you guys if it came up. Either way, there is and should continue to be a widening talent gap. I don't think it's as drastic as you guys would like to believe it is at this very moment. I can open my eyes and see quite a few kids who are just at a step or two above the D2 level and could have easily chosen the D2 route and nobody would have been shocked and flabbergasted. If you had some overwhelming amount of high-caliber Division I talent, you guys would be winning the Summit League, not simply competing in it. And I DON'T mean Augie would win the Summit League either, so don't take it that way. I just meant that, if the gap were as drastic as you say it is, you guys wouldn't be 7-10 right now with a win over SDSU as your biggest win of the season so far. Like I said, as long as Augie stays D2, that gap will widen, but it's not so long ago that you guys were at the D2 level, and your overall talent level hasn't jumped THAT far since making the transition. Besides, your team as a whole should have more talent. But the individual cogs of that team aren't exactly lighting the world on fire at your level right now either. I like this guy. He has a passion for a school he cares about genuinely. I can identify with him. I personally believe if we were to play Augustana in their gym, we could possibly get beat. My bet is it would be a close game. I think the better D-2 schools have quite a bit of talent, and it wouldn't be all that rare for them to knock off some D-1 schools along the way, much the same way FCS football teams have knocked off FBS teams. The game of basketball is really unusual that way. How else do you explain SDSU beating New Mexico in THE PIT and USD losing to NDSU by a million or so, then 2 nights later beating the Jacks. All I ask you to do is remember you are on the Coyote board. But what the hell, I go to the Bunny Board and fire away much the same way. I'll defend USD till the bitter end, and all he is doing is the same thing defending Augie. He's actually made me want to follow them now. Carry on. Much obliged. I kept waiting for this post to turn around and slap me in the face somehow, and it never did. Definitely appreciate the thoughts. Like I said before, my point was never to insult USD, it just somehow seems to have turned that way. All in all, I have no bad blood here with you USD guys. Hopefully some of you at least enjoyed the conversation and discussion, even if it somehow came out as me attacking the Coyotes (which, again, was never my intent). If I post in the future, I'll be sure to keep it more USD-focused (even if most of the time I'll probably be viewing things through Augie-tinted glasses).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2013 17:05:54 GMT -6
I like this guy. He has a passion for a school he cares about genuinely. I can identify with him. I personally believe if we were to play Augustana in their gym, we could possibly get beat. My bet is it would be a close game. I think the better D-2 schools have quite a bit of talent, and it wouldn't be all that rare for them to knock off some D-1 schools along the way, much the same way FCS football teams have knocked off FBS teams. The game of basketball is really unusual that way. How else do you explain SDSU beating New Mexico in THE PIT and USD losing to NDSU by a million or so, then 2 nights later beating the Jacks. All I ask you to do is remember you are on the Coyote board. But what the hell, I go to the Bunny Board and fire away much the same way. I'll defend USD till the bitter end, and all he is doing is the same thing defending Augie. He's actually made me want to follow them now. Carry on. Much obliged. I kept waiting for this post to turn around and slap me in the face somehow, and it never did. Definitely appreciate the thoughts. Like I said before, my point was never to insult USD, it just somehow seems to have turned that way. All in all, I have no bad blood here with you USD guys. Hopefully some of you at least enjoyed the conversation and discussion, even if it somehow came out as me attacking the Coyotes (which, again, was never my intent). If I post in the future, I'll be sure to keep it more USD-focused (even if most of the time I'll probably be viewing things through Augie-tinted glasses). I bet you hate state though, and thanks for all those wins over Augie in those last years of D2. I will always cherish those thrown carrots and the Technical fouls. Those antics help SDSU win in the beloved Almen Center. Now if we could get those yote fans to throw a few carrots late in the game, we might win in Vermillion for once.
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Post by azsod73 on Jan 7, 2013 18:20:30 GMT -6
Nidaros: I bet you hate state though, and thanks for all those wins over Augie in those last years of D2. I will always cherish those thrown carrots and the Technical fouls. Those antics help SDSU win in the beloved Almen Center. Now if we could get those yote fans to throw a few carrots late in the game, we might win in Vermillion for once.
Geeesh Nidaros, based on your posts here, you are acting like you had a bad weekend. It's not that big of a deal, afterall, it wasn't even a rival game.
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