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Jan 13, 2013 11:55:20 GMT -6
Post by azsod73 on Jan 13, 2013 11:55:20 GMT -6
Coach's comments:
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“We thought we were going to get some decent opportunities tonight,” Kansas City coach Matt Brown said. “We thought the middle of the zone was open and we didn’t think they were a great team against the ball screens. Every time we used the ball screen, we had a guy open.”
Boots:
“Physically we’re challenged defensively,” Boots said. “We don’t have a lot of size. We’re playing Karim at one forward and Brandon at 6-2 at a forward and we can’t guard. We don’t’ have enough length and we don’t have enough strength. We can’t contain, we can’t contest shots.”
Of note, Kansas City's bench out-scored South Dakota 57-9.
Looking at our roster, 11 out of 15 are 6' 5" or shorter.
Couple that with the KC coach's comments about our defense and what more can you say.......
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Jan 13, 2013 12:04:54 GMT -6
Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Jan 13, 2013 12:04:54 GMT -6
Boots says this team is challenged defensively and can only be fixed in recruiting. Don't you think he would've known that through the recruiting process? These players are skilled offensively. However, I think it has finally sunk in that he needs to find some defensive players and he hasn't done that since Tyler Cain graduated.
The defense has needed to be fixed for a while ago. Allowing one team to shoot 80 percent for a half can be called a fluke, but two times it is just horrible defense.
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Jan 13, 2013 15:07:33 GMT -6
Post by littleyote on Jan 13, 2013 15:07:33 GMT -6
Yep it is all the players fault, they are just to short.
Quote: “Physically we’re challenged defensively,” Boots said. “We don’t have a lot of size. We’re playing Karim at one forward and Brandon at 6-2 at a forward and we can’t guard. We don’t have enough length and we don’t have enough strength. We can’t contain, we can’t contest shots.”
Really, I mean really!!! These recruits are all recruited under Boots. We watch year after year as new recruits come in with hopes and dreams in there eyes. We watch year after year as they go through the program and slowly die into a depressed zombie going up and down the court like a robot.
Boots made comments in press releases lately, alluding to the fact that you never know wether you will have a job tomorrow or not in his business. If he truly believes that, than he needs to get his head out of the sand and work with what he's got!!!!! These young men (freshman) committed to you with high hopes of getting a chance at the big dance. I have hinted and bitched forever on here that your defensive coaching skills leave a little bit to be desired. The plan that worked for a certain group of kids may not work for others. Get you're a## in your office, clear off your desk, and figure something out that works for this group. IT MAY NOT BE WHAT YOU USED FOR THE LAST 20 PLUS YEARS! No more excuses, just do it.
Man, I hate to always be the complainer on here, But somebody needs to grow a pair and tell it like it is.
P.s. sorry for the rant, but it gets harder and harder to see the expression on the young mens faces year after year as they watch there hopes and dreams slip away.
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chuck
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Jan 13, 2013 16:25:53 GMT -6
Post by chuck on Jan 13, 2013 16:25:53 GMT -6
What kind of defense has the current #7 team ( that has won nine Big East regular season championships, five Big East Tournament championships, and 28 NCAA Tournament appearances under the same coach) played for the last 30 years? Answer: bleacherreport.com/articles/1009404-syracuse-basketball-why-jim-boeheims-2-3-zone-is-so-effectiveHmmm...that really is a terrible and out-of-date defensive strategy (sarcasm). I will be honest, though, that I am also a little uncomfortable with press conferences being so explicit about the current roster's physical limitations. However, it is clear to me that most systems are effective when ran as designed---it is the differences in talent that have the largest effect on wins and losses. It is more likely that we will see more winning percentage improve as recruiting improves (in part as a result of increased enthusiasm around the program and continued ability to recruit as a full D1 institution) not necessarily if the defensive philosophy changes. To continue the analogy, the success of Syracuse has fluctuated due largely to talent running the system rather than if the coach has "cleared off his desk."
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Jan 13, 2013 16:48:09 GMT -6
Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Jan 13, 2013 16:48:09 GMT -6
Dave Boots is no Jim Boeheim, Chuck. I hate to tell you that, but it isn't even close. Boeheim recruits length and wingspan to go with the offensive ability for his zone. Boots hasn't recruited on defense since Tyler Cain walked through that door.
Also, bleacher report is one of the worst websites out there, honestly.
Hopefully this is the "Come to Jesus" defensive mindset Boots needs. While it seems like Boots was talking about his players' defensive limitations, could it have been that he was blaming himself more than his players since he said in the press conference "We need to fix that in recruiting." To me, it seemed like he was placing most of the blame on himself and his coaching staff.
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Jan 13, 2013 16:48:30 GMT -6
Post by azsod73 on Jan 13, 2013 16:48:30 GMT -6
Chuck:
"it is the differences in talent that have the largest effect on wins and losses"
Agreed.
Syracuse has the size and athleticism to make it work. Their roster has 10 players 6'6" and taller. Bigger/quicker players with wide wing spans.
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Jan 13, 2013 17:37:34 GMT -6
Post by littleyote on Jan 13, 2013 17:37:34 GMT -6
This is exactly my point. Get a defense that works with the talent that WE have. Our players are very able to compete with the talent level in the summit league. Jim Boeheim has the talent to play that style( that as was implied in a earlier post). I completely understand we are not at the talent level, but I am sick of people (including coach Boots) blaming it on our players talent level. They may have not turned out the way he hoped they would have when he recruited them, but is he putting a good faith effort into training them to be what he wants. He is the one that chose them, and I do not think it is fair to them (or USD) to say we do not have the strength or talent to compete with my style of basketball.
USD maybe should say to the recruits that I hope you can fit and play in our system on your own, or we will have to wait until your gone and we can find somebody that does. In the mean time we will not put any effort forth into training you, or change the system to match your individual talents, we will just assume you're losers and call it good.
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Jan 14, 2013 9:57:27 GMT -6
Post by azsod73 on Jan 14, 2013 9:57:27 GMT -6
Boots' post game audio and Mick Garry's observations of the current team: mgarryargus.tumblr.com/Mick makes good points and Boots offers little to be encouraged by in the near future.
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Jan 14, 2013 11:42:00 GMT -6
Post by tcain on Jan 14, 2013 11:42:00 GMT -6
How does Coach Boots do with player development? How much are his recruits improving from high school to senior year at USD?
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Jan 14, 2013 12:50:36 GMT -6
Post by redwhiteandyote on Jan 14, 2013 12:50:36 GMT -6
Haven't been a lot of 4-year players over the last couple seasons. Quite a few transfers in the mix lately.
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