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Post by yotefan on Oct 30, 2013 12:28:44 GMT -6
Brandon Valley Backs the Jacks
For the last two years now I have heard from folks within the coaching community and the community of Brandon itself that Brandon Valley’s head football coach is a staunch supporter of SDSU athletics, especially Jackrabbit football.
As we all know, there is absolutely nothing wrong with a coach supporting his or her favorite team, but the story I keep hearing is the Lynx head football coach has repeatedly told USD football coaches they are wasting their time recruiting his players because they will all go to SDSU because they back the Jacks. If this is true we have a problem.
No coach should place any of his or her players “off-limits” to any team in order to benefit another, whether you’re talking about football players or any other student athlete. To think that an entire team, or for that matter the entire Brandon Valley school district “Backs the Jacks” is ridiculous, but there appears to be more to this story.
I was given the link below to the head football coach’s Twitter page and saw that indeed at the start of the 2012 football season he was apparently selling t-shirts that say, “Lynx Football Backs the Jacks.”
I hope that the Brandon Valley football coach, BV activities director, BV school administration, and the BV school board will exercise better judgment as they move forward in the future as it relates to not only these stories, but also any future t-shirt events. Public schools and their employees should not be in the business of picking sides and promoting any athletic program other than their own.
The Brandon Valley School District’s mission (taken from its web-page) states: “We will prepare our students to be life-long learners and productive citizens in a global society through the creation of learning environments that result in success.” Let’s hope those “learning environments that result in success” don’t just result in success for SDSU athletics and a few misguided State alumni, but rather, result in success for all BV student athletes, wherever they decide to further their education and athletic endeavors.
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Post by Yotes on Oct 30, 2013 12:37:59 GMT -6
Low class approach for sure. What if a kid wants to play football, stay in state, and get a major not offered up there? Just going to brainwash them and then have any player looking to USD be frowned upon? Some things are more important that football, coach. Some kids do go off to play college ball with education at the forefront of their mind. No class. You wouldn't see BHS or VHS doing this (not that either produces much D1 talent).
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Post by 88grad on Oct 30, 2013 13:45:22 GMT -6
Should mention this on Mick Garry's live chat Thursday...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2013 16:51:10 GMT -6
Brandon Valley Backs the Jacks For the last two years now I have heard from folks within the coaching community and the community of Brandon itself that Brandon Valley’s head football coach is a staunch supporter of SDSU athletics, especially Jackrabbit football. As we all know, there is absolutely nothing wrong with a coach supporting his or her favorite team, but the story I keep hearing is the Lynx head football coach has repeatedly told USD football coaches they are wasting their time recruiting his players because they will all go to SDSU because they back the Jacks. If this is true we have a problem. No coach should place any of his or her players “off-limits” to any team in order to benefit another, whether you’re talking about football players or any other student athlete. To think that an entire team, or for that matter the entire Brandon Valley school district “Backs the Jacks” is ridiculous, but there appears to be more to this story. I was given the link below to the head football coach’s Twitter page and saw that indeed at the start of the 2012 football season he was apparently selling t-shirts that say, “Lynx Football Backs the Jacks.” I hope that the Brandon Valley football coach, BV activities director, BV school administration, and the BV school board will exercise better judgment as they move forward in the future as it relates to not only these stories, but also any future t-shirt events. Public schools and their employees should not be in the business of picking sides and promoting any athletic program other than their own. The Brandon Valley School District’s mission (taken from its web-page) states: “We will prepare our students to be life-long learners and productive citizens in a global society through the creation of learning environments that result in success.” Let’s hope those “learning environments that result in success” don’t just result in success for SDSU athletics and a few misguided State alumni, but rather, result in success for all BV student athletes, wherever they decide to further their education and athletic endeavors. It's probably off limits considering they made t-shirts, etc, but this type of stuff happens all the time whether it's football, basketball, or whatever. Brandon Valley has a ton of current and recent SDSU athletes. I can see why they would lean towards SDSU, but it's probably inappropriate to make it public. For instance, the Dakota Schoolers probably shouldn't talk about which school they prefer the most either. I'm not saying what they're doing is right or is ok, but coaches help make decisions all the time. Whether or not the shirts were made he'll probably still lean towards State. Is it right? Maybe not, but it happens all the time all around the country. There's a reason Craig Bohl visits every high school in ND every year. I'm happy to see Brandon is State territory. |
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Post by obc on Oct 30, 2013 17:37:38 GMT -6
If true, it is inappropriate. A coach and mentor should give advice and guidance but not make the decision for a student athlete. They are crossing the line if they are closing the door on or strongly discouraging recruiters from visiting with their players. If I was a parent of a child at Brandon Valley that had aspirations of playing college football, I would be unbelievably upset with any coach that shut out opportunities based on his personal bias. Classless.
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Post by usdlaw on Oct 30, 2013 20:25:29 GMT -6
Excellent post Yotefan. There is nothing wrong with supporting Austin Sumner, I would expect many BV coaches and fans to do that. I had thought Austin was recruited by USD too, but maybe that wasn't allowed or didn't go well. Who knows. But that local pride in a particular player is not what I am reading here. There is a difference, although some may not see it that way.
I live in Harrisburg school district, which has had a former USD football player as a coach. If I heard he was not allowing SDSU or NDSU or any other school for that matter to recruit I would be disappointed. Now if a head coach at a university lacked class, I could see a high school coach saying "I wouldn't play for that guy." USD had that in their last official baseball coach, but clearly the approach of the BV coach has nothing to do with Coach Glenn. I realize a lot of current or former SDSU athletes are from BV, Austin Hanson to name another. But I couldn't imagine a BV kid doesn't want to go to the only business school or perhaps law school or med school someday. fMy high school coach went to USD for awhile and my best friend from high school played basketball at SDSU, my high school coach never discouraged him from going to SDSU.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2013 22:25:54 GMT -6
Is it an actual fact that the BV head coach said not to go to USD or just another stupid rumor that goes around? High School coaches cant stop recruiters from coming to there games and talking to there players. If the coach says the recruiter is just wasting his time, and leaves it at that the recruiter isn't doing job. I would highly doubt a coach would tell there players not to go to that college especially if its a D1 school. Coaches do influence their players and give their opinion on what they should do but I cant imagine them forcing their players to go to a specific college. At the end of the day, its up to to the student-athlete on where they want to go. I find this ridiculous.
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Post by Yotes on Oct 30, 2013 22:49:38 GMT -6
Is it an actual fact that the BV head coach said not to go to USD or just another stupid rumor that goes around? High School coaches cant stop recruiters from coming to there games and talking to there players. If the coach says the recruiter is just wasting his time, and leaves it at that the recruiter isn't doing job. I would highly doubt a coach would tell there players not to go to that college especially if its a D1 school. Coaches do influence their players and give their opinion on what they should do but I cant imagine them forcing their players to go to a specific college. At the end of the day, its up to to the student-athlete on where they want to go. I find this ridiculous. The dude was selling shirts, I bet that anyone considering USD there gets more than an earful from the people around him if the head coach is at the top of this. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2013 1:05:58 GMT -6
Is it an actual fact that the BV head coach said not to go to USD or just another stupid rumor that goes around? High School coaches cant stop recruiters from coming to there games and talking to there players. If the coach says the recruiter is just wasting his time, and leaves it at that the recruiter isn't doing job. I would highly doubt a coach would tell there players not to go to that college especially if its a D1 school. Coaches do influence their players and give their opinion on what they should do but I cant imagine them forcing their players to go to a specific college. At the end of the day, its up to to the student-athlete on where they want to go. I find this ridiculous. The dude was selling shirts, I bet that anyone considering USD there gets more than an earful from the people around him if the head coach is at the top of this. I bet a lot of people considering USD get an earful  I still don't see what the big deal is. If the the recruiter does his job, he'll get people from Brandon Valley to go to USD. The decision comes down to the student-athlete. What if there is a team camp at SDSU and another team camp at USD on the same day. And the coach decides to go to the team camp in Brookings instead. Does that mean the coach is "backing the jacks" and giving the impression not to go to USD? What about if a coach is wearing an SDSU shirt to practice? I still think you guys are making a big deal out of nothing. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2013 7:04:59 GMT -6
As a SDSU alum, grad and booster, I am flattered by this discussion.
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Post by canislatrans on Oct 31, 2013 7:16:34 GMT -6
By the looks of it, Joe Glenn isn't having any difficulty recruiting. I doubt some HS coach, playing Jacks cheerleader, would be a big hindrance.
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Post by Yote 53 on Oct 31, 2013 7:18:56 GMT -6
I guess it is Brandon Valley's prerogative to back a loser.
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Post by golfingyote on Oct 31, 2013 7:22:37 GMT -6
I really do not see this as a big deal. This seems to be the type of thing that happens more than we know i am sure. How many times do you see a college team with 3-5 guys from the same high school? quite often at this level. Coaches develop relationships/partnerships. One of coach Glenn's buds who coaches high school calls and says, "hey, I have so and so who is a helluva players. He's getting a few looks, but I told him he'd fit in great at your school with your scheme. Make a visit and We will get him up there." Conversations like this are moreso with what BV's coach and coach gigglemeier are having I would guess.
I have a hard time believing BV's coach is saying a team is off limits from visits, speaking to coaches, players, etc. At the end of the day, its up to the player to do whats best for him, and it is the player that ultimately makes that decision and makes campus visits. I'm not too worried about the one or two guys from BV that end up at state each year. No use crying over spilled milk. WE got the Penguins this week. Let's go!
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Post by 14lbenson on Oct 31, 2013 7:26:15 GMT -6
I say we all tweet to BV with #IBACKTHEYOTES.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2013 9:34:29 GMT -6
I say we all tweet to BV with #IBACKTHEYOTES. I would hope USD was more thorough in recruiting than relying on the word of a certain high school coach. I sure a lot of views of videos happen before an offer is extended. It no big deal. As I said, I am flattered that this topic has shown up on your board. Some how it made it over to the SDSUfan.com |
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