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Post by GoYotes on Feb 10, 2015 20:12:10 GMT -6
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Post by Yotes on Feb 10, 2015 21:10:24 GMT -6
Bought my tickets a couple weeks ago when I got cleared to miss work. Can't wait!
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Post by olifer on Feb 18, 2015 9:20:45 GMT -6
My wife and I have been going to the Summit League Tournament games since 2009, the first year they were in Sioux Falls and I have a couple of observations, information, and general comments about the tournament itself and what we as Coyote fans should be mindful of:
SDSU considers this to be "their" tournament and they back it up by packing the house with yellow and gold. Two years ago a Jackrabbit friend and I lined up at 5:00 AM outside the Sioux Falls Arena to get 2014 tickets. As other people began lining up behind us, I counted and took an unofficial poll of where people were coming from. I don't remember how far back I got before I got a non Jackrabbit fan in line but it was quite a way back. More frustrating was how far back I got before I found a fellow USD fan.
I know...their fan base is different and a lot of the farmers that support SDSU are generally in a period of their work schedules that may allow them a little more time to attend.
Plain and simply, we need to encourage our fellow fans, friends, and alumni to purchase tickets when they go on sale and not wait until the last minute.
I've asked others that I know that haven't gone to the tournament games and oftentimes I hear the answer "I didn't have a ticket and I heard it was sold out". While games the involve SDSU, NDSU, and now USD are being played against each other, tickets have been hard to get, but certainly not impossible. You'll generally find at almost game including the sold out ones, that people are standing in the lobby selling unused tickets.
With the tournament now being held in the Sanford Premier Center, the chances of getting tickets are even better than before.
Believe it or not, many of us that have attended the tournament for any length of time now are already planning on the 2016 tournament by keeping close tabs on when we expect tickets to go on sale, locations where they can be purchased, etc. Since it seems to change a bit each year, diligence is a must if you want to get good seats and be able to actually paint the venue RED as we would all like to see very much.
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Post by jackjd on Feb 18, 2015 9:48:16 GMT -6
SDSU considers this to be "their" tournament and they back it up by packing the house with yellow and gold. I've been to every Summit League Tourney in Sioux Falls. With perhaps a few exceptions, I have attended at least a part of every game that's been played. It's good -- and sometimes great -- basketball. The players on opposing teams get to be familiar names and faces. While SDSU fans for many years have been the largest fan base at the Summit Tourney, I haven't heard an SDSU fan claim it is "our" tourney. Personally, I think a great turnout of USD fans would add to the fun and I expect the USD fanbase will be much greater this year after what the USD women did last year. I hope we see a lot of white and white in the stands (yellow and gold?  ). I know...their fan base is different and a lot of the farmers that support SDSU are generally in a period of their work schedules that may allow them a little more time to attend. While this comment seems to make some sense, I don't think it's accurate. For example, a huge percentage of bankers in the state are SDSU grads. There are many bankers with SDSU degrees at the tourney. I have several colleagues in the legal field who are SDSU grads and they're at the tourney. SDSU grads who are physicians are at the tourney. SDSU business owners are at the tourney. I joked with an SDSU grad who IS a farmer who was not at the tourney because he was at his house in Palm Springs. People, irrespective of their team loyalty, will go to the games if they want to make it work in their schedule. Believe it or not, many of us that have attended the tournament for any length of time now are already planning on the 2016 tournament by keeping close tabs on when we expect tickets to go on sale, locations where they can be purchased, etc. Since it seems to change a bit each year, diligence is a must if you want to get good seats and be able to actually paint the venue RED as we would all like to see very much. Good advice here: pay attention to how the next year's tickets will be handled. I agree with olifer: each year seems to be a little different. I was not at all pleased with my tickets for this year. I purchased mine very early but it seems the computer assigning seats was programmed by an idiot. There will be (happens every year) people with better seats than mine who purchased long after I purchased my tickets. That's one area that USD and SDSU fans could join in making a point with those controlling ticket sales. If it's a mess again this year, the two largest fan bases should make some demands. |
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Post by sdyotefan on Feb 18, 2015 10:08:18 GMT -6
I've been a western SD banker for over 30 years and don't know a single banker that graduated from State. The lawyers and doctors I know in the Black Hills are mainly all USD grads or from out of state schools. I'm sure there are some State grads in these fields but sure not many in western SD!
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Post by coyotecrazie5 on Feb 18, 2015 10:27:51 GMT -6
I'm sure there are SDST grads that are bankers, lawyers, doctors, ect. They are probably undergrad degrees and most likely finished up at USD to have any credibility in the field. If you would have said pharmacist, or nurse I would have agreed. The SDST business owners are mostly farmers, which is a passed down business that cannot be obtained otherwise.
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Post by olifer on Feb 18, 2015 12:51:51 GMT -6
To Jackjd, I didn't mean anything directly bad about using the term "their" tournament in my original post. Whether it is spoken or not, SDSU has (I'm complimenting here) considered this tournament their turf, again a compliment to your fans.
With Sioux Falls having a large number of business people, attorneys, and medical professionals that have degrees from USD, there is no reason that our fans can't equal the numbers that you guys bring in here. Heck, NDSU brings more fans to the tournament than USD has done.
I'm not trying to make anyone "feel" bad here. It's just time for OUR fans to step up to the ticket office and get to the games! Our student athletes deserve our support by showing up and acknowledging our appreciation for their efforts.
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Post by Yotes on Feb 18, 2015 13:09:09 GMT -6
While the fans know darn well when and where the tournament is taking place, I would like to see a little promotion from the athletic department. Play some ads at the games and tell the fans to go order their Summit tickets at halftime.
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Post by dave on Feb 18, 2015 14:50:40 GMT -6
I know...their fan base is different and a lot of the farmers that support SDSU are generally in a period of their work schedules that may allow them a little more time to attend. Hey thanks for reminding me, I've been meaning to come on here and ask if anyone has the 2016 SLT schedule as I'm doing some planning for next year and want to know when I should turn bulls out. Can't have calving season interfere with the tournament. LOL ps Keep in mind in the fall when all you USD doctor and lawyer grads are tailgating all day before the football games I'm stuck listening to my Jacks on the radio while I'm driving combine, things have a way of balancing out. |
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Post by jackjd on Feb 18, 2015 19:25:02 GMT -6
I've been a western SD banker for over 30 years and don't know a single banker that graduated from State. The lawyers and doctors I know in the Black Hills are mainly all USD grads or from out of state schools. I'm sure there are some State grads in these fields but sure not many in western SD! I've worked with many banks/bankers over the years and I'll stand by my statement that a huge percentage of the bankers in SD are SDSU grads. Similarly, Northern State U has a lot of grads in the banking industry. While I am sure USD grads work in banks, I can't think of a USD grad who is a banker in the Eastern SD town where I reside (21,000 population) and I can name several SDSU grads who are bankers in Western SD. My point is this: the suggestion that SDSU grads attend the Summit League in large numbers because they're involved in agribusiness is simply an inaccurate stereotype. Last year a guy sitting next to me for a couple of games farmed in the southern part of the state and he was a USD grad. |
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Post by jackjd on Feb 18, 2015 19:30:54 GMT -6
To Jackjd, I didn't mean anything directly bad about using the term "their" tournament in my original post. Whether it is spoken or not, SDSU has (I'm complimenting here) considered this tournament their turf, again a compliment to your fans. With Sioux Falls having a large number of business people, attorneys, and medical professionals that have degrees from USD, there is no reason that our fans can't equal the numbers that you guys bring in here. Heck, NDSU brings more fans to the tournament than USD has done. I'm not trying to make anyone "feel" bad here. It's just time for OUR fans to step up to the ticket office and get to the games! Our student athletes deserve our support by showing up and acknowledging our appreciation for their efforts. Got it. No problem. I'd like to see a lot more red in the crowd because it would be a lot of fun. (And, it may help keep some of those Bison bums out of the stands!) |
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Post by Yotes on Feb 18, 2015 19:36:00 GMT -6
I'm not going to speculate on the state at large, but I'm sure that in Watertown there is a high concentration of SDSU and NSU grads in every industry with those being the closest state schools. Banking seems common enough that any of the state schools (except Mines) have degrees that would let one enter the industry anyways.
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Post by coyotecrazie5 on Feb 19, 2015 9:28:13 GMT -6
State has a lot more undergrad students over the years than USD. Most fans root for their undergrad college as their #1 team for sports. Its not hard to see why State has more fans. I still believe that USD fans need to turn it up a notch and be a more supportive of their teams. I will give the nod to State in that aspect. It's just too bad most of them are delusional.
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Post by yote14 on Feb 19, 2015 10:36:05 GMT -6
State has a lot more undergrad students over the years than USD. Most fans root for their undergrad college as their #1 team for sports. Its not hard to see why State has more fans. I still believe that USD fans need to turn it up a notch and be a more supportive of their teams. I will give the nod to State in that aspect. It's just too bad most of them are delusional. Agreed coyotecrazie5. State has a significantly larger undergrad population and Brookings is twice the size of Verm. I found out this is a lost argument with them when explaining the difference in fan bases. This doesnt mean I'm not mad as hell on Saturday's when tailgating is empty and everyone sits on their hands like they are at church during games and never cheers. Our fans have some serious work to do. I try to keep it positive at games and get people involved with me but there is a serious culture issue at games in Vermillion right now. The last 3 years at least once during a football game me and the group I have season tickets with have been yelled at to sit down during a football game. This cant happen anymore. The Dome can be a serious home field advantage with how loud it gets in there when we do cheer. I thought the cement was going to crumble during the SDSU game 2 years ago. They had a decibal meter there that day and the Dome reach the same levels as the Fargodome does during their games. We just need to find out how to do that every game all game not just the first 30 minutes of a game every 2 years. Winning helps. The delusional State fans you referenced can be confirmed with the numbers below. 2008 SDSU averaged 9,907 fans at their football games (5 years after move to D1) 2012 USD averaged 8,683 fans at their football games (5 years after move to D1) 2008/2009 SDSU averaged 1,430 fans at mens bball games (5 years after move to D1) 2012/2013 USD averaged 3,625 fans at mens bball games (5 years after move to D1) 2009/2010 SDSU averaged 1,404 fans at mens bball games (6 years after move to D1) 2013/2014 USD averaged 2,661 fans at mens bball games (6 years after move to D1) ****numbers are from ESPN box scores for each home game. The point I have with these numbers is the move is a process. SDSU went through the same trends and numbers USD did. Their recent success has made them forget the bad times and that their move was almost identical to USD/UND. Things will get turned around. Eventually funding will catch up etc. Just has to be part of the process. But we should always be busting our asses to make it better for sure. |
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Post by jackl on Feb 19, 2015 11:34:35 GMT -6
State has a lot more undergrad students over the years than USD. Most fans root for their undergrad college as their #1 team for sports. Its not hard to see why State has more fans. I still believe that USD fans need to turn it up a notch and be a more supportive of their teams. I will give the nod to State in that aspect. It's just too bad most of them are delusional. Agreed coyotecrazie5. State has a significantly larger undergrad population and Brookings is twice the size of Verm. I found out this is a lost argument with them when explaining the difference in fan bases. This doesnt mean I'm not mad as hell on Saturday's when tailgating is empty and everyone sits on their hands like they are at church during games and never cheers. Our fans have some serious work to do. I try to keep it positive at games and get people involved with me but there is a serious culture issue at games in Vermillion right now. The last 3 years at least once during a football game me and the group I have season tickets with have been yelled at to sit down during a football game. This cant happen anymore. The Dome can be a serious home field advantage with how loud it gets in there when we do cheer. I thought the cement was going to crumble during the SDSU game 2 years ago. They had a decibal meter there that day and the Dome reach the same levels as the Fargodome does during their games. We just need to find out how to do that every game all game not just the first 30 minutes of a game every 2 years. Winning helps. The delusional State fans you referenced can be confirmed with the numbers below. 2008 SDSU averaged 9,907 fans at their football games (5 years after move to D1) 2012 USD averaged 8,683 fans at their football games (5 years after move to D1) 2008/2009 SDSU averaged 1,430 fans at mens bball games (5 years after move to D1) 2012/2013 USD averaged 3,625 fans at mens bball games (5 years after move to D1) 2009/2010 SDSU averaged 1,404 fans at mens bball games (6 years after move to D1) 2013/2014 USD averaged 2,661 fans at mens bball games (6 years after move to D1) ****numbers are from ESPN box scores for each home game. The point I have with these numbers is the move is a process. SDSU went through the same trends and numbers USD did. Their recent success has made them forget the bad times and that their move was almost identical to USD/UND. Things will get turned around. Eventually funding will catch up etc. Just has to be part of the process. But we should always be busting our asses to make it better for sure. LOL Lets try that again using the correct numbers from each schools website: 2008 SDSU football home average attendance- 9907 2012 USD football home average attendance -8683 You conveniently forgot the next year. 2009 SDSU football average home attendance-13,265 2013 USD football average home attendance- 8095 2008/2009 SDSU mens BB average home attendance-2487 2012/2013 USD mens BB average home attendance-1817....subtract the SDSU game-1524 2009/2010 SDSU mens BB average home attendance-2204 2013/2014 USD mens BB average home attendance-1796....subtract the SDSU game-1527 It's a process alright. USD is moving backwards |
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