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Post by goyotes24 on Apr 20, 2018 12:35:04 GMT -6
Looking at a comparison of what the other programs have for shooting guards, it appears Nero would have much less competition at USD, and therefore, likely to get more playing time, especially with Mooney gone. www.verbalcommits.com/players/caleb-nero
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Post by Cousin Eddie on Apr 20, 2018 14:38:47 GMT -6
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Post by usdcoyote on Apr 20, 2018 15:08:36 GMT -6
Some info on Kelley Class: Sophomore Hometown: Gillette, Wyo. High School: Campbell County HS Prev School: Elev8 Weight: 180 Height: 5-11 Biography
2016-17: Kelly was a sparkplug off the Cowboys bench appearing in 34 games. He made one start on the season against Utah State on Jan. 11. He finished the season averaging 3.4 points per game, while dishing out 1.5 assists per night. He shot 39 percent from the field and behind the three point line. He scored a career-high 10 points four times with the last coming against Eastern Washington in the CBI opening round. He hit a career-high three triples at Fresno State on Jan. 4. He dished out six assists against Utah State on Jan. 11 in his first career start. He played a career-high 24 minutes against Northern Iowa. He added eight points in the contest with five assists.
2015-16: Cody Kelley redshirted the 2015-16 season and did not play in a game, but did help the Cowboys by serving on the scout team.
Before Wyoming: One of the best prep players ever in the Equality State, Kelley was Wyoming's only two-time Gatorade player-of-the-year winner. He earned the accolade as a junior in 2012-13 and a senior in 2013-14. The 5-11, 185-pound guard spent 2014-15 at Elev8, a prep school in Delray Beach, Fla. As a senior at Campbell County High School, Kelley and head coach Bubba Hladky led the Camels to a 25-3 overall record and a Class 4A state title. Kelley paced the state in scoring at 24.9 points per game, while adding 4.8 rebounds, 6.8 assists and 1.8 steals per contest. He notched a game-high 22 points in a 56-51 win over Kelly Walsh in the state title game. During Kelley's junior campaign the Camels went 23-4 and advanced to the state tournament's semifinals. He averaged 20.0 points, 6.9 assists, 4.4 rebounds and 3.4 steals per game, while shooting 61 percent from the field. He finished as the Camels' all-time leader in points, assists and steals. In the classroom, Kelley graduated with a 3.98 grade-point average.
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Post by kiyoat on Apr 24, 2018 11:54:42 GMT -6
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Post by coyotecrazie5 on Apr 25, 2018 11:36:55 GMT -6
Fakira on his way to Utah St. as well.
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Post by yote14 on Apr 25, 2018 12:44:55 GMT -6
WOW. Disappointing. Kind of shady stuff IMO.
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Post by easmus on Apr 25, 2018 13:10:51 GMT -6
Mick Garry article from last weekend made it seem like he wasn’t wanted here, so naturally I bet he gravitated to the people who recruited him.
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Post by lynn on Apr 25, 2018 15:53:14 GMT -6
Honestly this isn't setting up well for Utah St in my opinion. I would be thinking the coach we just hired is bringing in lower level recruits than the guy we just bounced. No offense but you probably aren't going to win the MWC by stealing our recruits. In the meantime I think Todd Lee is doing the opposite and shooting higher. Time will tell but I predict this works out better in the long run for USD than it does Utah State. Just my two cents. Go Yotes!!!
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Post by Yotes on Apr 25, 2018 16:27:51 GMT -6
Honestly this isn't setting up well for Utah St in my opinion. I would be thinking the coach we just hired is bringing in lower level recruits than the guy we just bounced. No offense but you probably aren't going to win the MWC by stealing our recruits. In the meantime I think Todd Lee is doing the opposite and shooting higher. Time will tell but I predict this works out better in the long run for USD than it does Utah State. Just my two cents. Go Yotes!!! USD has been better than Utah State, so USD recruits would be a logical upgrade for them. It's also tough to get high caliber recruits when you start the process at this time of year. Just look at what Smith got in his first cycle here (DJ Davis, James Hunter, Sekou Harris, Tre Burnette - not even close to the impact players we got in following classes). Sucks for us, but all makes sense to me if I'm a Utah State fan.
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Post by lynn on Apr 25, 2018 17:18:01 GMT -6
Being an upgrade and being able to position yourself to win the MWC are two very different things. I agree late in the season for recruiting however they are replacing a fringe top 100 guy they lost with the coach change to Marquette with a guy they will likely need to recruit over next year. That's fine I would just prefer the juco route or transfer route in that situation as opposed to high school kids. Time will tell but I still think 4-5 years down the road this fan base will be happier than Utah St is my bet.
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Post by stevenyote on Apr 25, 2018 20:07:33 GMT -6
Honestly this isn't setting up well for Utah St in my opinion. I would be thinking the coach we just hired is bringing in lower level recruits than the guy we just bounced. No offense but you probably aren't going to win the MWC by stealing our recruits. In the meantime I think Todd Lee is doing the opposite and shooting higher. Time will tell but I predict this works out better in the long run for USD than it does Utah State. Just my two cents. Go Yotes!!! I completely disagree with this. It’s all about talent evaluation. Fakira or any of the other recruits could be a be a steal for Utah state. Recruiting is all about connections and relationships for the most part. Lee probably understood in the first call that he had zero chance at fakira. That’s not Lee’s fault. There is a difference between shooting higher and landing higher. Time will tell as it’s the same with all recruits but to say lee is shooting higher than smith is crazy especially for the fact that lee has not landed anyone yet.
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Post by lynn on Apr 25, 2018 21:29:58 GMT -6
I agree it is about talent evaluation especially at this level however my statement was that in my opinion Todd Lee will prove to be the more successful in his respective situation 4-5 years down the road. That will officially be his team and smiths team at that time with 4 to 5 years to recruit. The reality is both these men were brought in to take the program to places it hasnt been in Lee's case and to return it to its more successful days in Smith's case. Certainly I think we can agree that lee is being handed a better situation that is closer to its stated goal at the time of hiring. Have you looked at nevada's talent or unlv or San Diego state? Taking our recruits regardless of evaluation I think you are playing with some pretty thin odds in the mountain west when considering the top level schools there and what will be expected of smith by his administration . Lee is inheriting a program that is close to making the next step and getting in the dance. One or two impactful transfers which was what Smith essentially did and he could have us there. We can agree or disagree I'm just glad for some healthy debate and activity on the board. Makes it fun to talk coyote basketball.
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Post by Yotes on Apr 26, 2018 6:37:52 GMT -6
Smith knows he isn't winning the MWC with these guys, he is just taking the best recruits available.
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Post by JWKunzman on Apr 26, 2018 9:29:06 GMT -6
Wasn't Fakira offered by TCU and at least one other P5 school? He may have committed to a Summit League school, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's lower level talent.
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Post by Cousin Eddie on Apr 26, 2018 9:31:33 GMT -6
Wasn't Fakira offered by TCU and at least one other P5 school? He may have committed to a Summit League school, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's lower level talent. I have heard a few comments on this subject from good sources. I think a few items will come to light soon that may give you more comfort with our decision to cut his loose. Nothing controversial, just adding credibility to the decision. It isn't my news to break, however.
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