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Post by gopheryote on Jan 14, 2018 9:02:30 GMT -6
My only beef with SDSU is that they have NO depth. They have a very short bench and the top 6 play a ton of minutes every night. Injuries and foul trouble happen, not to mention having to win 3 games in 4 days playing 6 guys.
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Post by oldhare on Jan 14, 2018 10:13:11 GMT -6
My only beef with SDSU is that they have NO depth. They have a very short bench and the top 6 play a ton of minutes every night. Injuries and foul trouble happen, not to mention having to win 3 games in 4 days playing 6 guys. I can see that the Jackrabbits have only 9 players available for play. That would give you the shorter bench from that perspective. I am not certain how many are dressed for the Coyotes. In the 2 common opponents in the Summit there appears to be only a small difference. Against NDSU, SDSU played 2 reserves for 42 minutes. USD played 3 reserves for 46 minutes. Against Denver, both teams played 4 reserves for 58 and 59 minutes each. The other common thread of the 2 teams is that you will notice all the starters are playing more minutes in conference. USD has Peterson playing more than where Hurst was during OOC. The grind of conference play should be fewer games per week compared to OOC with a max of 2 games per week and some weeks with 1 game. Injuries would be the item neither team can afford even though Peterson is a great next man up for USD.
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Post by gopheryote on Jan 14, 2018 17:22:36 GMT -6
I didn't know they only had 9 available - why is that?
My observation is less about minutes (though SDSU has 5 players in the top 35 in minutes played per game for all SL teams; USD has 3 (4 if Hurst still played). It is more about watching them play, the bench is used to 'steal minutes' for the "productive" players to get a breather. There is a huge drop from the top 5 to the next 2 or 3 that give them a break.
Comparatively, USD's minutes are often spread based on match ups and style of game. There is no feeling of "oh boy, I hope Mooney, Hags, etc., only have a short rest..."
Like I said, it is my observation. Don't feel I need to explain it further - if you don't see it already, then nothing I say will change your mind.
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Post by Yotes on Jan 14, 2018 18:41:04 GMT -6
I'm not going to act like I've paid any attention to SDSU beyond box scores, but averaging less than 7 bench points though 4 conference games is not promising. USD has an average of 15 bench points per game. That includes Peterson having to join the starting lineup due to injury for the past two games. USD has the ability to survive an injury in the starting 5. I don't know if SDSU can.
I was going to say a small sample size may skew these numbers, but somehow we are already just shy of being 1/3 of the way done. 14 game conference schedule blows.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Jan 17, 2018 0:17:15 GMT -6
I know this isn't Summit League but Drake lost at UNI today but are still 5-2 in the MVC. What does that say about the strength of the Valley. It certainly doesn't seem to say much good as far as their strength is concerned.
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Post by gopheryote on Jan 26, 2018 13:42:51 GMT -6
Recognizing that rabbit fans have been humbled the past 48 hours, I have to say I'm looking forward to Daum vs. FW on Saturday. For whatever reason, IPFW chooses to not guard Daum (not sure they even send 5 guys back on D). Will Daum have 50 again? Or is confidence shaken a bit? Game should be a blowout, but that will be interesting to watch.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Feb 4, 2018 2:32:40 GMT -6
It looks like the Men's race is going to be decided in Frost Arena but it's not quite a guarantee just yet.
The Jacks remaining schedule
at Denver at Oral Roberts vs Western Illinois vs South Dakota at Fort Wayne
The Coyotes
vs Fort Wayne at Oral Roberts vs Omaha at South Dakota State
I didn't realize the Jacks still have 3 tricky road games to maneuver. They have one more road game than the Yotes have and I thought the remaining schedule favors them but it is not what I thought it was. The Oral Roberts road games for both teams don't look quite as daunting as they did a month ago but a road game in the Summit is never a given and ORU played them very tough in Frost. Same for Fort Wayne and they have to visit them as well. The best hope for the Coyotes is that the Jacks slip up in 2 of those road games and hopefully one of them would be to Fort Wayne because they could be vital in the tie breaker situation since they would lose to a team higher in the standings than the Coyotes.
The Coyotes can just about lock up if not officially lock up the #2 seed with a win over Fort Wayne in Vermillion. This is a perfect world scenario but if the Jacks slip up in Fort Wayne and lose in either Denver or Tulsa the Coyotes could actually lose to the Jacks in Frost, tie them in the standings and probably get the #1 seed based on a tie breaker. I don't think the Jacks will lose 2 of those 3 road games but one would be nice. The Coyotes absolutely control their own destiny right now and as long as they stay 1 game back until that last game in Brookings a win in Frost would make them either out right or get a share of the conference title. I don't believe the Jacks have ever won the Summit League outright but I may be wrong. Lets keep it that way.
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Post by coyotecrazie5 on Feb 8, 2018 21:59:31 GMT -6
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Post by Yotes on Feb 8, 2018 22:03:54 GMT -6
What a terrible GIF. Score overlay blocks any view of the shot going in or the clock running out.
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Post by kiyoat on Feb 8, 2018 22:36:56 GMT -6
What a terrible GIF. Score overlay blocks any view of the shot going in or the clock running out. I agree. Here's how you do a buzzer-beater GIF: Wrong game, but still. That's how you do it.
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Post by Yotes on Feb 10, 2018 21:03:18 GMT -6
UNO 90 IPFW 85
Fort Wayne and Denver are now tied for 3rd, each holding a 5-6 record. IPFW swept Denver for the tiebreaker. Yes. The Summit is incredibly top heavy this year.
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Post by elcoyote on Feb 10, 2018 23:33:18 GMT -6
UNO 90 IPFW 85 Fort Wayne and Denver are now tied for 3rd, each holding a 5-6 record. IPFW swept Denver for the tiebreaker. Yes. The Summit is incredibly top heavy this year. I just don't understand Ft Wayne. Seems like they have a boatload of talent witnessed by the 20 point thumping of Indiana in Bloomington, but they definitely underachieve and have for two seasons now, at least in conference play anyway. Still, they scare the hell out of me come SLT time.
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Post by Yotes on Feb 11, 2018 0:59:37 GMT -6
UNO 90 IPFW 85 Fort Wayne and Denver are now tied for 3rd, each holding a 5-6 record. IPFW swept Denver for the tiebreaker. Yes. The Summit is incredibly top heavy this year. I just don't understand Ft Wayne. Seems like they have a boatload of talent witnessed by the 20 point thumping of Indiana in Bloomington, but they definitely underachieve and have for two seasons now, at least in conference play anyway. Still, they scare the hell out of me come SLT time. Super Bowl? IPFW hasn't had another game even remotely as impressive as that one. Their body of work is rather lackluster. I might be concerned if they had a second flash of brilliance.
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Post by elcoyote on Feb 11, 2018 10:05:13 GMT -6
I just don't understand Ft Wayne. Seems like they have a boatload of talent witnessed by the 20 point thumping of Indiana in Bloomington, but they definitely underachieve and have for two seasons now, at least in conference play anyway. Still, they scare the hell out of me come SLT time. Super Bowl? IPFW hasn't had another game even remotely as impressive as that one. Their body of work is rather lackluster. I might be concerned if they had a second flash of brilliance. I do realize that defensively they're not very good, but they have two players, Scott and Konchar, who, in my opinion, are as good as anyone in the league. If they would both be hot in any given game they could be a handful. Why they haven't is the mystery to me. Team chemistry? I'm just saying that if anyone pulled off the big upset or made a surprising run through the SLT, they would be my pick.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Feb 11, 2018 16:20:40 GMT -6
I think from top to bottom Fort Wayne is over rated in their talent even though they may have a couple of nice players. I also don't think they are consistent with their effort from one game to the next. I wasn't very impressed with them in their recent game against the Coyotes. I don't think they are especially long or bulky (like ORU) either. They are talented when their offense is clicking and can put a scare into anyone. I believe the Coyotes are a good match up for them and I believe are 4-0 against them over the past 2 years. A team that is built around offense is going to struggle when their shots are not falling. They can be scary at the tourney but I don't think they can put 3 games in a row together to win it. The Coyotes have the most ways to beat someone of anyone in the Summit. Fort Wayne falls well down that list of ways they can beat you IMO.
Personally the team I don't want to see in the Coyotes half of the bracket aside from the Jacks is NDSU. They may be struggling now but the Coyotes just don't match up all that well with them.
Updated tourney matchups if season ended today
#1 SDSU vs #8 WIU #4 Fort Wayne vs #5 Omaha (I am surprised that they are this high) #2 USD vs #7 Oral Roberts (but they are tied with NDSU right now) #3 Denver vs #6 NDSU
If I could create the perfect scenario I would want to play ORU or Omaha in the fist round, Fort Wayne in the second and anyone other than SDSU in the finals.
I am glad that NDSU is losing but I don't want the Coyotes to face them in the first round, please no.
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