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Post by kiyoat on Jan 23, 2022 10:50:22 GMT -6
1. USD 2. SDSU 3-9 ? 10. Denver Right now I'd go with: 1. USD 2. SDSU 3. UND 4-8 ? 9A Omaha 9B Denver Although Denver just beat Omaha, they are still the more putrid team IMHO. The F-Hawks are two games ahead of the pack, so let's see if they can stay there. Very surprising. KC and the Bison have disappointed. The Leathernecks remain dangerous but inconsistent. The Jacks have been shooting lights-out lately, so I won't put them a whole tier below USD. Defense will win out in Brookings, I think. But we won't beat them by 23 again. Probably a close one. I know we are feeling invincible right now, but these are all humans playing a sport with a bouncy ball and a tiny metal hoop. Anyone can get an upset on a given night. Let's hope it happens to the Jacks instead.
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Post by 91jack on Jan 23, 2022 13:00:27 GMT -6
Fun with stats! We haven't done that for a while... Starter | Season Avg. Mins
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| Meyer | 24.4 | 18 | Burkhard | 25.5 | 21 | Irwin | 26.1 | 23 | Nelson | 26.1 | 24 | Selland | 21.4 | 21 |
It appears the only starter that didn't play normal minutes was Meyer, thought Thueinck, who is one of the first players of the bench, basically played those minutes (she was above her season average by about the same that Meyer was under). If you want to interpret that as sitting your starters, then have at it - I won't try to stop you. I may roll my eyes, but I won't try to stop you. The real story is SDSU - who has been offensively challenged - was on fire Thursday and Saturday.
I like how you look at things. Don't you remember when USD beat UND 85-46? Lamb- 30 minutes (average 32 minutes.game) Krull- 31 minutes (average 32 minutes/game) Korngable- 26 minutes (average 32 minutes/game) Watson- 24 minutes (average 26 minutes/game) Sjerven- 23 minutes (average 24 minutes/game) Nelson (24) and Irwin (23) played the most minutes for SDSU and they played as many minutes as USD's fewest minutes for a starter. SDSU played the last players off the bench 8, 8, 8, 8 and 9 minutes. USD's last players off the bench played 2, 3, 5, 5 and 7 minutes. Burkhard played 4.5 minutes less than she normally plays. That is just about half of a quarter and about 80% of her normal minutes. According to your calculations, Korngable was the only USD player that played less than her normal minutes. I know that SDSU won by more than 39 but I would think that should be a big enough margin to play USD's bench more, too. SDSU has scored at least 71 points in 10 of their last 11 games. The only game they scored less than 71 points was when USD shut them down. USD held them to 42 points. That was a combination of USD's great defense and SDSU having an off night. USD is just that much better than the other teams SDSU has played in that stretch.
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Post by gopheryote on Jan 23, 2022 13:42:59 GMT -6
I like how you look at things. Don't you remember when USD beat UND 85-46? Lamb- 30 minutes (average 32 minutes.game) Krull- 31 minutes (average 32 minutes/game) Korngable- 26 minutes (average 32 minutes/game) Watson- 24 minutes (average 26 minutes/game) Sjerven- 23 minutes (average 24 minutes/game) Nelson (24) and Irwin (23) played the most minutes for SDSU and they played as many minutes as USD's fewest minutes for a starter. SDSU played the last players off the bench 8, 8, 8, 8 and 9 minutes. USD's last players off the bench played 2, 3, 5, 5 and 7 minutes. Burkhard played 4.5 minutes less than she normally plays. That is just about half of a quarter and about 80% of her normal minutes. According to your calculations, Korngable was the only USD player that played less than her normal minutes. I know that SDSU won by more than 39 but I would think that should be a big enough margin to play USD's bench more, too. SDSU has scored at least 71 points in 10 of their last 11 games. The only game they scored less than 71 points was when USD shut them down. USD held them to 42 points. That was a combination of USD's great defense and SDSU having an off night. USD is just that much better than the other teams SDSU has played in that stretch. Unfortunately, you are preaching to the choir. Rather than defending the minutes and margin, this board was commenting around that time about it being too many minutes for the starters. It was Oldhare who tried to make it look like the regulars didn't play much for SDSU, implying minutes were appropriately shared.
And though we all get the negatives, I know I was generally happier with the Denver game, where it was out of hand early, and the regulars sat (and Denver shaved ~20 points off the lead).
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Post by gopheryote on Jan 23, 2022 13:45:05 GMT -6
The bunnies have no class as an institution!! Not only in WWB. They love to run up the score as much as possible including FB and schedule weak teams to exploit that idea especially in FB. Other examples: Had a head coach with a with a serious legal problem with ZERO penalty and rewarded with a new contract. A men's bb player take an intential hit to a USD player and he's still on the team a year later with new discipline problems. With bunnies it's all about win at any cost and by as much as possible!! Last night I had several bunny fans crowing about their women's bb score. I said why not play your backups a lot more for development? They have defined the kind of institution they want to be. Thankfully USD is different! A few years ago we played a Drake fb team that was seriously undermanned. We could have easily scored 100 but called the dogs off early. Appreciate the enthusiasm, but this post is junk and has no place on this board. Move it to smack if you feel you need to type it.
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Post by sdyotefan on Jan 23, 2022 14:54:35 GMT -6
I agree that it should be moved to smack. Go ahead and move it.
Define junk please. I have stated facts!
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Post by steelsd on Jan 23, 2022 14:59:13 GMT -6
I agree that it should be moved to smack. Go ahead and move it. Define junk please. I have stated facts! Yes, the facts are clear. In blow out wins USD plays it’s starters far more than SDSU. Therefore, it’s very clear USD likes to run up the score. Simply look at minutes played by the starters. The facts are clear.
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Post by elcoyote on Jan 23, 2022 15:13:04 GMT -6
I agree that it should be moved to smack. Go ahead and move it. Define junk please. I have stated facts! Yes, the facts are clear. In blow out wins USD plays it’s starters far more than SDSU. Therefore, it’s very clear USD likes to run up the score. Simply look at minutes played by the starters. The facts are clear. Thanks for adding your two cents worth, but as you and your little buddy stated we're all morons with substandard educations. Now, please make like Marvin K. Mooney.
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Post by steelsd on Jan 23, 2022 15:19:15 GMT -6
Yes, the facts are clear. In blow out wins USD plays it’s starters far more than SDSU. Therefore, it’s very clear USD likes to run up the score. Simply look at minutes played by the starters. The facts are clear. Thanks for adding your two cents worth, but as you and your little buddy stated we're all morons with substandard educations. Now, please make like Marvin K. Mooney. Good one! In other words “I have no argument, so GTFO.” At least show some intelligence and argue my facts if you are going to call me out. But before you do, actually look at which team is consistently playing it’s starters >30 minutes in blow out wins. I’ll wait…
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Post by elcoyote on Jan 23, 2022 15:39:40 GMT -6
Thanks for adding your two cents worth, but as you and your little buddy stated we're all morons with substandard educations. Now, please make like Marvin K. Mooney. Good one! In other words “I have no argument, so GTFO.” At least show some intelligence and argue my facts if you are going to call me out. But before you do, actually look at which team is consistently playing it’s starters >30 minutes in blow out wins. I’ll wait… No argument ...you're 100% correct. I have no argument because I really could care less about this this. I'm just confused as to why you would even want to read or post on this board.
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Post by steelsd on Jan 23, 2022 15:51:00 GMT -6
Good one! In other words “I have no argument, so GTFO.” At least show some intelligence and argue my facts if you are going to call me out. But before you do, actually look at which team is consistently playing it’s starters >30 minutes in blow out wins. I’ll wait… No argument ...you're 100% correct. I have no argument because I really could care less about this this. I'm just confused as to why you would even want to read or post on this board. I’m curious why if you didn’t care about the topic I posted on why you would post on it? Life is full of quandaries.
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Post by elcoyote on Jan 23, 2022 16:08:41 GMT -6
No argument ...you're 100% correct. I have no argument because I really could care less about this this. I'm just confused as to why you would even want to read or post on this board. I’m curious why if you didn’t care about the topic I posted on why you would post on it? Life is full of quandaries. I guess it's too hard to understand that I wasn't posting about playing time. The biggest quandary in question here is why you care what people on here post or think. The whole thing is a total eyeroll.
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Post by steelsd on Jan 23, 2022 16:17:55 GMT -6
I’m curious why if you didn’t care about the topic I posted on why you would post on it? Life is full of quandaries. I guess it's too hard to understand that I wasn't posting about playing time. The biggest quandary in question here is why you care what people on here post or think. The whole thing is a total eyeroll. Well, your lack of comprehension about my making a post related to the actual subject posted seems like a thing you need to figure out yourself.
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Post by gopheryote on Jan 23, 2022 16:19:00 GMT -6
Yes, the facts are clear. In blow out wins USD plays it’s starters far more than SDSU. Therefore, it’s very clear USD likes to run up the score. Simply look at minutes played by the starters. The facts are clear. More fun with stats (facts)! As was mentioned earlier, the UND game (in December) had starters playing to averages (roughly). Since then, USD has had another off-the-rails blowout - just 10 days ago in Denver. Let's check in on that fact you just stated:
Starter | Avg Mins
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| Lamb | 32.2 | 20 | Sjerven | 24.4 | 16 | Korngable
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| 21 | Krull | 30.0 | 25 | Watson | 26.5 | 17 |
The facts are... clear?
I think this whole debate is dumb. USD was working on some offense items during the UND game (had been struggling). I would guess AJ is actively working to build confidence/edge after the beat down in Vermillion. The coaches of these two teams can focus on different things in different games because the rest of the league isn't great, and they want to have more arrows in the quiver during SLT.
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Post by elcoyote on Jan 23, 2022 16:25:34 GMT -6
I guess it's too hard to understand that I wasn't posting about playing time. The biggest quandary in question here is why you care what people on here post or think. The whole thing is a total eyeroll. Well, your lack of comprehension about my making a post related to the actual subject posted seems like a thing you need to figure out yourself. That makes no sense at all.
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Post by fightsd on Jan 23, 2022 16:28:19 GMT -6
Who gives a holy hell if a team runs up the score on a bad opponent? Our WBB team could put up 100 on several SL teams on any given night. I don't think we gain much as a team from doing that, but again who cares? I trust Dawn to get the players the minutes they need. If AJ wants to play his starters deep into the second half, have fun. We know who the better team is and it's been proven time and again over the past few years. Running up the score on a bottom dweller doesn't change that.
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