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Post by kiyoat on Feb 21, 2024 15:17:26 GMT -6
updated the recruiting matrix with the new 2025 offer
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Post by kiyoat on Apr 15, 2024 9:12:30 GMT -6
updated with all the portal roster movement... also updated class standings based on the new 2024-25 Roster. (surprised Eberwein listed as Sophomore) Also cleaned up the 2024 class with players committing to schools (see 2024 class thread).
Looks like we don't currently have any juniors for next year. I assume there are still a couple of spots open for transfers, maybe three.
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Post by yotefan90 on Apr 15, 2024 9:26:13 GMT -6
updated with all the portal roster movement... also updated class standings based on the new 2024-25 Roster. (surprised Eberwein listed as Sophomore) Also cleaned up the 2024 class with players committing to schools (see 2024 class thread). Looks like we don't currently have any juniors for next year. I assume there are still a couple of spots open for transfers, maybe three. I see Bostyn is still listed on the roster? Is he possibly staying?
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Post by kiyoat on Apr 15, 2024 9:42:12 GMT -6
updated with all the portal roster movement... also updated class standings based on the new 2024-25 Roster. (surprised Eberwein listed as Sophomore) Also cleaned up the 2024 class with players committing to schools (see 2024 class thread). Looks like we don't currently have any juniors for next year. I assume there are still a couple of spots open for transfers, maybe three. I see Bostyn is still listed on the roster? Is he possibly staying? No idea. He was much later to declare than his teammates. I hope that is the case.
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Post by jmgg on Apr 16, 2024 8:00:46 GMT -6
Is this team just totally adverse to the thought of recruiting high school talent? The goal seems to be to pick up everyone else's retreads.
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Post by kiyoat on Apr 16, 2024 9:20:36 GMT -6
Is this team just totally adverse to the thought of recruiting high school talent? The goal seems to be to pick up everyone else's retreads. I think you have to look at the larger trends here. NCAA D-1 has changed significantly in recent years with regard to portal use. I think that this current Coyote staff has done an admirable job trying to get quality HS kids from the region compared with the previous staff. And also compared to our conference foes (other than NDSU and SDSU). If you want to be competitive you have to see these trends and play the portal skillfully. You can't judge today's recruiting strategies with the past. JMO. Nothing is easy, but I think our staff is doing everything they can to get competitive. Win the transfer season. Win the HS recruiting season, win the offseason training, win the non-con season, win the conference season, win the tournament season. The wheel never stops turning.
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Post by elcoyote on Apr 16, 2024 10:24:11 GMT -6
Is this team just totally adverse to the thought of recruiting high school talent? The goal seems to be to pick up everyone else's retreads. Hmmm...there are three high school players coming in next fall and only one (so far) portal transfer.
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Post by yotenation on Apr 16, 2024 10:51:48 GMT -6
Is this team just totally adverse to the thought of recruiting high school talent? The goal seems to be to pick up everyone else's retreads. Hmmm...there are three high school players coming in next fall and only one (so far) portal transfer. We brought in high school players last year too (Eberwien, Brack, Bruns, Hayes). It's not as if they aren't recruiting or signing kids out of high school. But the portal is necessary in today's world to fill spots created by players that left in the portal (including guys we recruited out of high school like Brand and Coleman)
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Post by 90yote on Apr 16, 2024 12:06:29 GMT -6
Multiple guys leave every year, so going to the portal is a necessity. The roster stands at 12 so I would imagine at least one more will come through the portal.
In contrast to his predecessor, Peterson has repeatedly said his goal is to build a program and not go year-to-year. I hope he can do that, but it's a challenge. The cupboard was bare with only one real high-school recruit when he took over. It looks like he retained three of his initial recruits last year, plus a walk-on. Hill was recruited late when Peterson took over and he's still here. Four of the 12 are walk-ons, but in this era I think they are necessity. You hope to build them into rotation players who will likely stay four (or five) years.
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Post by yotenation on Apr 16, 2024 12:23:02 GMT -6
Multiple guys leave every year, so going to the portal is a necessity. The roster stands at 12 so I would imagine at least one more will come through the portal. In contrast to his predecessor, Peterson has repeatedly said his goal is to build a program and not go year-to-year. I hope he can do that, but it's a challenge. The cupboard was bare with only one real high-school recruit when he took over. It looks like he retained three of his initial recruits last year, plus a walk-on. Hill was recruited late when Peterson took over and he's still here. Four of the 12 are walk-ons, but in this era I think they are necessity. You hope to build them into rotation players who will likely stay four (or five) years. I agree. The idea that the transfer portal should not be a tool in our toolbox is silly and outdated. You can recruit as many high school players as you like, but the reality is that you can't count on them all staying for 4 or 5 years. Those that have huge success will be tempted by opportunities at bigger schools. Those who struggle to find playing time will grow frustrated and leave for an opportunity to get on the court elsewhere. There will always be holes to fill.
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Post by Cousin Eddie on Apr 16, 2024 15:15:49 GMT -6
You sign HS kids in the fall and supplement the roster with transfers in the spring. Standard practice in today's MBB environment.
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Post by fightsd on Apr 16, 2024 15:29:15 GMT -6
You sign HS kids in the fall and supplement the roster with transfers in the spring. Standard practice in today's MBB environment. Then play with a new roster the next season. The transfer portal has ruined college basketball.
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Post by 90yote on Apr 16, 2024 15:40:16 GMT -6
There can be improvements made, but if it doesn't result in less interest and less revenue, then it hasn't ruined college basketball. And I don't think it will.
My feeling is that my interest in having more stable rosters should not override player autonomy.
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Post by fightsd on Apr 16, 2024 16:14:03 GMT -6
There can be improvements made, but if it doesn't result in less interest and less revenue, then it hasn't ruined college basketball. And I don't think it will. My feeling is that my interest in having more stable rosters should not override player autonomy. I disagree. The combination of the transfer portal and NIL, both being totally unchecked at this point, have bastardized any semblance of amateurism that the NCAA used to prioritize. It also all but guarantees we'll never see a true star player wear a coyote uniform for more than a year or two.
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Post by kiyoat on Apr 16, 2024 16:42:32 GMT -6
There can be improvements made, but if it doesn't result in less interest and less revenue, then it hasn't ruined college basketball. And I don't think it will. My feeling is that my interest in having more stable rosters should not override player autonomy. I disagree. The combination of the transfer portal and NIL, both being totally unchecked at this point, have bastardized any semblance of amateurism that the NCAA used to prioritize. It also all but guarantees we'll never see a true star player wear a coyote uniform for more than a year or two. There's good and bad. I do think there needs to be some control, but the NCAA has lost control of conferences and Universities a long time ago. They are self-policing in many areas. It is what it is. Plus, you are not acknowledging what was bad about the previous system. Coaches and Universities had a huge amount of control over student athletes. In many cases, coaches could block you from transferring to specific schools, or even from being allowed to transfer at all. Now with more autonomy and ability to transfer, some of that control is back in players' hands. That forces coaches to look at relationships between them and players differently. Mutual respect is better than one side having all the control. And I'm in favor of that.
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