Halfway Week: UND and Showdown at the Interstate- part II

[kiyoat]

As was mentioned in a previous thread, the Yotes are 2-5 and in sole possession of last place.... but are still only 3 games out of first place.  Crazy, crazy conference.

Predictions:
Yotes beat Hawks 75-73 (-2) Massey
Yotes beat Hawks 73-72 (-1) WN

Jacks beat Yotes 80-70 (+10) Massey
Jacks beat Yotes 81-66 (+15) WN

of note: The Men's game is on Sunday afternoon, not Saturday.  Should help with those wanting to either watch or attend both games....

[yote18]

A couple wins here sets us up for a nice run to the finish. But if not it’s not a season breaker either. The summit as a whole is pretty comparable and you could swap really any team for another in the standings. The Yotes have been competitive in most games but what really has hurt us is our offensive production. We need to find some consistency there. In reality while a conference title is still a goal just keep growing till the tourney and then let it all break loose. Just do enough to avoid SDSU in the opening round.

[kiyoat]

Looking at "conference only" team stats:

What we are good at:

Rebounding: +4.3 rebound margin is #2 in the conference, led by Thioune's 9.9 a game

Perimeter defense: allowing 33.1% shooting (#1)

What we are (really) bad at:

Scoring: 69.7 points/game (#9)

Turnovers: -6.43 TO margin (#9), 0.77 A/TO ratio (#9), 2.86 steals/game (#9)

[fightsd]

Feb 1, 2024 10:23:56 GMT -6 kiyoat said:

Looking at "conference only" team stats:

What we are good at:

Rebounding: +4.3 rebound margin is #2 in the conference, led by Thioune's 9.9 a game

Perimeter defense: allowing 33.1% shooting (#1)

What we are (really) bad at:

Scoring: 69.7 points/game (#9)

Turnovers: -6.43 TO margin (#9), 0.77 A/TO ratio (#9), 2.86 steals/game (#9)

Pretty consistent with my thoughts as an observer I guess. We don't have any ball handlers and there's no flow to the offense. Guys trying to find a somewhat open three or else dribbling too much and taking some fadeaway 10 footer that comes up short. Thiune has started to come along a little bit inside, but he's just not strong enough to back somebody down and score over them. So he has to do his little pivot jump hook, which I like the shot, but him trying to turn around and dribble in the lane causes a lot of turnovers as well.

[kiyoat]

So here's a simple "player efficiency" (not weighted) per 40 minutes:

player	Pts	Reb	Asst	Stl	Blk		miss FG	miss FT	TO		EFF	Min	EFF/40
B Holt	242	111	62	9	4		115	31	46		236	674	+14.0
P Bruns	214	92	26	12	4		122	14	19		193	579	+13.3
M Burchill	140	85	39	16	3		62	9	44		168	576	+11.7
L Thioune	285	208	18	10	11		93	17	58		364	544	+26.8
K Stewart	280	25	18	4	1		127	9	26		166	504	+13.2
S Kramer	65	55	41	8	6		37	8	43		87	416	+8.4
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I Bruns	141	37	14	8	2		84	9	12		97	299	+13.0
F Brostrum	68	39	18	3	3		31	5	19		76	237	+16.0
M Buom	69	52	12	6	6		16	5	8		116	190	+24.4
J Hill	82	31	5	3	4		30	2	10		83	189	+17.6
J Brack	57	52	9	3	1		12	12	2		96	184	+20.9
J Saffieddine	16	9	14	2	0		16	1	11		13	83	+ 6.3

This would probably be more meaningful with each stat weighted, but this is still interesting.  Kramer and Burchill may need to get replaced with Buom and Hill?

[fightsd]

This is honestly the same kind of offense we run in pickup games at my gym. Just basic motion because you're playing with different guys every time you go. Is there an offensive strategy or philosophy at all?

[marco]

it didn't go well got outplayed

[Men's League Waterboy]

Feb 1, 2024 19:22:38 GMT -6 fightsd said:

This is honestly the same kind of offense we run in pickup games at my gym. Just basic motion because you're playing with different guys every time you go. Is there an offensive strategy or philosophy at all?

From the looks of the box I’d be more worried about the other end.

[GoYotes]

It all comes down to 3 4 games in March.

[fightsd]

Feb 1, 2024 21:34:39 GMT -6 Men's League Waterboy said:

Feb 1, 2024 19:22:38 GMT -6 fightsd said:

This is honestly the same kind of offense we run in pickup games at my gym. Just basic motion because you're playing with different guys every time you go. Is there an offensive strategy or philosophy at all?

From the looks of the box I’d be more worried about the other end.

Yeah that comment was made 10 minutes into the game. Defense is bad too.

[dbyote]

We're really bad....

[elcoyote]

Really constructive comment.

[dbyote]

Feb 2, 2024 8:32:55 GMT -6 elcoyote said:

Really constructive comment.

I get it.  I'm just at a loss as a fan.  I'm a die hard, but I'm seriously considering throwing in the towel for the season.  I've watched every game I could for the last 20 years and I don't know if I want to watch anymore this year.

[yotesbacker]

Have been a 50 year fan, and always will be. Learned as a kid "If you can't say anything nice, then don't say anything at all." Have been pretty quiet this season, but we have nowhere to go but up! Let's start with a harder nosed defense and see where that takes us. GO YOTES!!!

[fightsd]

Feb 2, 2024 9:14:31 GMT -6 yotesbacker said:

Have been a 50 year fan, and always will be. Learned as a kid "If you can't say anything nice, then don't say anything at all." Have been pretty quiet this season, but we have nowhere to go but up! Let's start with a harder nosed defense and see where that takes us. GO YOTES!!!

We're halfway through the conference and have 2 wins. Hell, a third of our wins overall are against non D1 competition. I agree we should stiffen up on defense, but excuse me for not being real positive at the moment.