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Post by coyote61 on Mar 6, 2014 17:16:21 GMT -6
In my earlier post I think I was a little hard on Joey. It was just a little frustrating to get run out of the gym by NDSU and SDSU. We have been more competitive this year but losses are losses. If they gave him a 1 year contract to see if he could get over the hump next year I wouldn't be disappointed, but I wouldn't mind them doing a national search for next years coach either. A different coach doesn't make us an automatic contender but a different look isn't always bad. We won more games this year than we did last year. We were much more competitive in a lot of games this year (even Scott Nagy acknowledged that as well as the K-State coach). We finished the regular season 2 spots higher than we did last year in the SL, so if we make it to the SL championship its gonna be pretty hard not to give him the job. Don't get your hopes up, James will not be the coach next year. I like Joey alot, great kid. We have a new arena on the horizon. We need a new direction and develop some enthusiasm and a winning culture when that thing opens up in two years.
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Post by crudeyote on Mar 9, 2014 20:09:59 GMT -6
I was just watching Nebraska beat Wisc. The BTN announcers had good things to say about Nebraska Asst. Craig Smith. So I did a little homework on the man:
- From a small Minn town - UND Grad - Masters from Northern - Asst @ Minot State, NDSU, Colo St, and Neb. - Head Coach @ Mayville St (ND) for 3 yrs - 3 straight National Tourneys - National Runner-Up - National Coach of the Year
impressive resume if you as me.
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Post by canislatrans on Mar 9, 2014 20:42:00 GMT -6
I think you are going to hear about more than a few coaches with good resumes before this process is over. Agree with a previous poster, that we need to build a program that will build excitement and fill our new arena regularly!
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Post by Yotes on Mar 9, 2014 20:52:11 GMT -6
We need to open the checkbook and bring in a hot candidate if the AD has any interest in building a program. Joey just isn't ready to be a head coach, I don't see any disputing that.
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Post by Charlie on Mar 10, 2014 9:58:52 GMT -6
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Post by wrj on Mar 10, 2014 10:40:53 GMT -6
It is an unfortunate time for Mr. James. Perhaps he stayed too long and was too loyal to one coach. Perhaps he should have been moving about from university to university to better prepare him to be a head coach. Also, without regard to his abilities, he had to coach this year with a team which had Junior and Senior leadership (and redshirt sophomore too) which was recruited to a team which would not be tournament eligible for their initial years (assuming they came to USD as true freshman). I don't know if this hurt recruiting or not. If the team would have been tournament eligible from the beginning of their time at USD, would there have been better recruits to make the team better this year? Would there have been more quality recruits to make the student athlete leadership deeper and stronger? I don't claim to know the answers to these questions, but I suspect their answers might hold some value. It is unfortunate that Coach Boots chose the path that he did. He probably thought he was doing the right thing for Mr. James. In the end, I doubt that is true.
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Post by Yotes on Mar 10, 2014 13:30:44 GMT -6
IUPUI just fired their coach after just three seasons. He was an assistant there for 16 years under the same head coach, had zero experience elsewhere, and then was handed the reigns when that coach left for Georgia State. Let's not get ourselves into the same situation they did.
Whoever takes over, this team needs character. Knowing most of the team off the court, it's not surprising at all to see them just give up on the court. I respect Gruis and Bos, never had any interaction with Thoseby, but the rest of the team just reminds me of the old Meirkort kids. Joe Glenn greatly stresses character, our basketball coach should be doing the same. I think it might be as important of a quality as any basketball skill. You need guys who bring the best out in each other and don't give up when things look bad. Our lack of character also shows in our piss poor road showings, and it needs to change.
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Post by azsod73 on Mar 10, 2014 17:43:47 GMT -6
IUPUI just fired their coach after just three seasons. He was an assistant there for 16 years under the same head coach, had zero experience elsewhere, and then was handed the reigns when that coach left for Georgia State. Let's not get ourselves into the same situation they did. Whoever takes over, this team needs character. Knowing most of the team off the court, it's not surprising at all to see them just give up on the court. I respect Gruis and Bos, never had any interaction with Thoseby, but the rest of the team just reminds me of the old Meirkort kids. Joe Glenn greatly stresses character, our basketball coach should be doing the same. I think it might be as important of a quality as any basketball skill. You need guys who bring the best out in each other and don't give up when things look bad. Our lack of character also shows in our piss poor road showings, and it needs to change.[/b] Good post. Our Lady Yotes - starting with Amy Williams, have far more grit than our MBB team.
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Post by usdcoyotes on Mar 10, 2014 18:57:18 GMT -6
IUPUI just fired their coach after just three seasons. He was an assistant there for 16 years under the same head coach, had zero experience elsewhere, and then was handed the reigns when that coach left for Georgia State. Let's not get ourselves into the same situation they did. Whoever takes over, this team needs character. Knowing most of the team off the court, it's not surprising at all to see them just give up on the court. I respect Gruis and Bos, never had any interaction with Thoseby, but the rest of the team just reminds me of the old Meirkort kids. Joe Glenn greatly stresses character, our basketball coach should be doing the same. I think it might be as important of a quality as any basketball skill. You need guys who bring the best out in each other and don't give up when things look bad. Our lack of character also shows in our piss poor road showings, and it needs to change.
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Post by teamsd on Mar 11, 2014 0:55:46 GMT -6
Per Midco Jay Elsen's Twitter, Joey James has been relieved of his duties. " @elsenmidco SN 25m BREAKING: Joey James will not return as South Dakota's head coach. The Coyotes went 12-18 overall & 6-8 in The Summit League this season." twitter.com/ElsenMidcoSN
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Post by Yotes on Mar 11, 2014 2:13:13 GMT -6
That's rough. If it wasn't clear before Sioux Falls, the writing sure was on the wall after last night. I feel for Joey, the man has dedicated a lot of time to this program, and it hurts to see this happen. I believe we're better off this way, but it is still tough to see this happen to such a fine individual. If the new coach wants him, and Joey is willing, I wouldn't mind seeing him back as an assistant going forward. I doubt that happens though.
Wherever life takes him, I wish him nothing but the best.
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Post by usdguy99 on Mar 11, 2014 5:47:41 GMT -6
ESPN has also confirmed
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Post by GoYotes on Mar 11, 2014 6:47:19 GMT -6
Joey was put in a very tough situation this year and despite the situation did increase the win total and was great with getting more students to show up at the games and with the boosters. Good luck Joey going forward.
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Post by notkiotees on Mar 11, 2014 6:52:19 GMT -6
#poortiming
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Post by Charlie on Mar 11, 2014 7:50:44 GMT -6
Agreed. This day should not be about the men's program. We need to focus all our energy and the women. This could have happened later this week with no effect on the coaching search going forward.
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