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Post by Yotes on Mar 22, 2017 21:50:01 GMT -6
hi goyotes24! Sioux falls sucked! USD is not gonna pay him $350k.year. hahaha. Probably not, but could be close. Drake's a mess. One winning record in MVC play the last 30 years. History suggests that no one can succeed there for two years, as you recommended for Smith.
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Post by lakesbison on Mar 22, 2017 21:53:06 GMT -6
well, if he had 2 years are drake at .500 or .600 & become respectable, he'd get to that big 10 a lot faster than wasting a year or 2 in vermillion. my good friend went to HS with Craig (goyotes24 met him) he says he wants to be Tim Miles , which none of us blame him. Maybe USD gave him $250k and got him a $60k Suburban for him & wife to drive, maybe use of a private plane for family trips to be with family, etc. that would be doable for him to stay.
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Post by goyotes24 on Mar 22, 2017 21:53:10 GMT -6
hi goyotes24! Sioux falls sucked! USD is not gonna pay him $350k.year. hahaha. You're just upset you couldn't cash in on the video lottery machines
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Post by lakesbison on Mar 22, 2017 21:55:21 GMT -6
hi goyotes24! Sioux falls sucked! USD is not gonna pay him $350k.year. hahaha. You're just upset you couldn't cash in on the video lottery machines ^^ that's probably where Craig Smith's raise is coming from. You're Welcome Coyote fans!
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Post by fightsd on Mar 22, 2017 22:02:41 GMT -6
Never gamble with goyotes24....
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Post by Coyote Fan on Mar 22, 2017 23:26:27 GMT -6
why the hell would Craig Smith stay? if you can make $300-350k at Drake, then succeed there for 2 years.. you could get the IOWA Nebraska or hell even the Minnesota job! Sorry Lakes but unfortunately contrary to your assumption USD is becoming a pretty good place for coaches to be. The dedication to athletics by the president and athletic administration has skyrocketed in recent years and I think when USD went out and convinced Bob Nielson to come on board things really started to take off. They for once made a serious effort to make football good again. I hadn't seen that for quite some time prior to that hire but the program is obviously still a work in progress. Then they produced a coach good enough to go to a power 5 conference. So what did they do but make what looks like an excellent hire in Women's coach Plitzuwiet. The run to the WNIT title doubled the disirability of candidates that wanted to come to Vermillion and having a spanking new arena certainly didn't hurt. We are now in the business of hiring coaches that formerly coached teams to national championships and I like those standards.
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Post by yotebewithyou on Mar 22, 2017 23:31:13 GMT -6
hi goyotes24! Sioux falls sucked! USD is not gonna pay him $350k.year. hahaha. I would be VERY surprised if it was less than 300k
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Post by Coyote Fan on Mar 22, 2017 23:31:21 GMT -6
I really hope that Smith ended up getting north of 300K as that is now the going rate for good Summit coaches, or heck even new Summit coaches that had proven nothing as in Otzelberger's case.
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Post by gopheryote on Mar 23, 2017 5:56:48 GMT -6
This goes against my general feelings for college sports, but I hope the entire SL gets MBB coaches in the neighborhood of $500K. Part of becoming a multi-bid league is having high quality coaches - especially coaches that stay long enough to build on previous success (vs. leaving right after success). SL will never be able to outspend P5, but need to be on par or slightly ahead of similar conferences (MVC, BSC, MAC).
Will be interesting to see the conference financial stats that usually come out in the spring/summer.
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Post by canislatrans on Mar 23, 2017 6:19:19 GMT -6
Winners all around, Coyotes Summit League Champions, Coach Smith, highly sought after Coach of the Year, the administration for swiping COY's from other schools and defending the same (Jeremy Hoeck tweeted this very eloquently)!!
Another great day to be a Coyote fan, like everyday.
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Post by Cousin Eddie on Mar 23, 2017 7:51:43 GMT -6
Hopefully by now everybody has read Mick's column about coaches at this level: www.argusleader.com/story/blogs/mickgarry/2017/03/22/hey-coyote-fans-get-used/99508398/Get used to this, because it is our new reality. That said, I would have been very upset if Smith left for Drake. The program is a mess. The AD is a mess. The MVC is about to implode. The pay wasn't that much more. Be prepared for next season or the year after, however. Assuming we find a way to backfill the loss of Flack, we are a 24 win team next year. I count at least 5 games that with better early chemistry and experience, we win. Everybody comes back. The chemistry is great. Another season training in the SCSC. Two highly regarded recruits come in. Take a couple very conservative assumptions: 1) Mooney stays healthy and is the same guy (I won't even assume improvement). 2) Dickerson improves his shot and plays smarter. 3) The team as a whole improves its FT shooting by just a couple percentage points. 4) Carlton gets stronger. 5) [Realistically] expect the largest improvements from Armstrong and Peterson - especially Armstrong with a year of training. 6) HOPE for the largest improvements from Jech and Hagedorn - much more challenging than #5. Most important to me is improved strength/size. 7) Simpson continues to be himself and gains more confidence shooting. 8) TBM gets stronger AND improves his shot. None of these are asking too much or are unrealistic. I didn't even mention potential contributions from lights-out walk-on shooters Powers, Delimont and Stensgard, or anything from the incoming freshman (although I would like to see Prevost establish himself as a force in the post).
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Post by Charlie on Mar 23, 2017 7:52:35 GMT -6
In situations like this I wonder how close Coach Smith was to leaving or was it more a case of a report tweeting out something because he wanted to be the first to break the story in case it happened.
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Post by easmus on Mar 23, 2017 8:15:00 GMT -6
I would have been upset had he left because Drake wasn't better and because I think the players who all just got there would have gotten stiffed. I do believe something verbal may have been in place. Otherwise why was a team meeting called and players supposedly left waiting. If that much is true, were they waiting while Herbster worked out a deal? Seems possible. If we have success again next year, totally understand this is part of the game. No matter when he leaves, the program is in better shape then when he took it.
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Post by howlincoyote on Mar 23, 2017 8:24:11 GMT -6
Drake fans on their MB starting to theorize that Coach Smith himself was leaking the information to use as leverage with our athletic administration. Funny and unlikely, but I think they're pretty desperately grabbing at straws.
Thought this comment from a pretty active Drake poster was funny too:
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Post by usdcoyote on Mar 23, 2017 8:24:52 GMT -6
I don't think anything was in place and I don't think the players meeting was called so he could tell them he was leaving. I think the meeting was called so he could tell them he wasn't going anywhere. I think Charlie hit the nail on the head. The reporter tried to make an educated guess so he could be the first one to break the story just in case he was right. I don't doubt for a second that Drake did offer him the job. To piggy back off what Cousin Eddie was saying, I think the most growth we might see in the offseason could be from Hagedorn and Peterson. I would like to see Peterson develop a better outside shot and Hagedorn to develop a more back to the basket game. Sure would be nice to see him add about 15 pounds of muscle.
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