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Post by Coyote Fan on Oct 3, 2015 16:36:15 GMT -6
Keep the coach we hired from Sourthern U, but let's blow this crap up. Let Glenn go back to Arizona and kick back, the OC can find an NAIA job somewhere. This football debacle is embarrassing!! Is there anyway the basketball arena can be done in time for this year? People will slowly but surely come to my side of the fence so welcome aboard Coyote 61. |
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Post by yotefan on Oct 3, 2015 20:55:02 GMT -6
Coyotefan,
NO ONE will read your play by play posts because we were all at the game while you sat at home watching Midco. I have no voice because I cheered my ass off on every 3rd down. I had fun and shared my season tickets (those are little pieces of magic paper that are mailed to you when you support the Coyotes with your money...they allow you to attend sporting events) with old friends and ate the worst burger of all time at OLC after the game. Yeah, the Yotes lost and played poorly, but I'll tell you this, the only side of the fence I've been WAY too slow to come to is the one that truly (notice I spelled that correctly) believes you're a dipstick. Congratulations. You've convinced me tonight and that isn't easy to do. Have a Happy D-Days Chicken Little.
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Post by Charlie on Oct 3, 2015 20:58:23 GMT -6
The offense was flat out hard to watch today. Once we got down 7-0 I knew we were screwed. As soon as we get behind in any game, the play book shrinks down to about 8 plays. No creativity, no risk taking, no anything. When we were down by 3 touchdowns in the 3rd quarter, we went 2 straight 3 and outs where all 3 runs were up the middle. It was like the offense had already given the win to the Penguins. Something needs to change but I've seen enough Coyote football to know Wes' play calling won't.
However, still glad I got to spend another day in the dome with my family. Even in defeat, a loss is still more fun when I'm not sitting on my couch.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Oct 3, 2015 23:22:22 GMT -6
Coyotefan, NO ONE will read your play by play posts because we were all at the game while you sat at home watching Midco. I have no voice because I cheered my ass off on every 3rd down. I had fun and shared my season tickets (those are little pieces of magic paper that are mailed to you when you support the Coyotes with your money...they allow you to attend sporting events) with old friends and ate the worst burger of all time at OLC after the game. Yeah, the Yotes lost and played poorly, but I'll tell you this, the only side of the fence I've been WAY too slow to come to is the one that truly (notice I spelled that correctly) believes you're a dipstick. Congratulations. You've convinced me tonight and that isn't easy to do. Have a Happy D-Days Chicken Little. You can think what you want but I was the only one on the board to pick the Penguins to win and therefor the only one that was right about the prediction. It's always better to side with what Vegas thinks because they are right more than they are wrong. I actually gave the Yotes way too much credit picking them to only lose by 8. Call it chicken little or whatever you want to but I get the pulse of the program way more accurately than those that let themselves emotionally get too close to the team. Those people believe that the team is much better than they really are. My signature says it all "if you always do what you have always done you will always get what you have always got". The Coyotes are doing exactly what they have always done so why should we honestly expect the results to be any different. It's ok to be disappointed today, but for the love of god don't be surprised by what happened. We have seen this all too often. I am glad you had fun at the game but I no longer consider doing to games and watching Coyote beat downs fun anymore. I have done that for far too many years and it's time for a different approach. This football program should be greatfull that they have people still show up to watch them play. By now with all the losing seasons the attendance could easily have fallen to 4K per game as that is what it used to be every game not all that many years ago. This program does have hope for the long term just not so much in the present. It all depends on the decisions that come from Herbster but he seems to be capable of making good hires and hopefully at the end of this season he will understand exactly what needs to be done. As I said people are still showing up to the dome and cheering on the team. I like the dome as a place to watch football and it is a very nice home field advantage. I believe Coyote Football can be successful at some point but not without major change first. |
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Post by MD on Oct 4, 2015 4:52:41 GMT -6
Dropped a TD early...muffed punt inside the 5...missed FG. 3 turnovers. Wont win many in MVFC that way.
I thought our D held up fairly well most of the game.
But I want to complain about something that had no bearing on the outcome of the game.
Woodyard comes in the last drive and we find ourselves inside the YSU 40 with roughly 2 minutes left. Now I'm the first to admit I've never coached a football team outside of an Xbox, but to me, if you want to change the attitude of this team, why not try and score? The mentality should be no matter the score, whether we are driving for winning score or down 50, you will have to keep your chin strap buckled for 60 minutes. Cause we are gonna fight til the clock reads 0:00
At some point , we will need to score on the last drive to win a game (I hope) and we should be able to say 'been there, done that''
Maybe that's just me. I realize it wouldn't have changed a thing, expect perhaps instilling an attitude on the guys.
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Post by sdyotefan on Oct 4, 2015 7:06:53 GMT -6
coyoteg16 I agree with your post 100%! Why not let your backup QB throw some passes to gain more experience? Maybe not the first few plays but certainly after a couple of first downs. Other observations: Our offense is way too easy to defend. The only pass I remember we threw down field to a RB gained 60+ yds to Frederick. Youngstown is very good on both sides of the ball. Had been allowing 59 yds per game rushing ahead of other teams by 50 yds and that average includes their very close loss to Pitt. They should be and will be ranked higher than 10th. Our defense played well other than the blown coverage on the long TD pass early. Their QB had not thrown an int until the Yotes got two. The 4-3 was very good against their very talented RBs and diverse O especially in the 2nd half. I really like our true freshman!! And yes they will occasionally make FR mistakes but they will be stars and quickly. The bunnies found out they're not 5th and I can't imagine an FCS team better than the bison. State's loss of 28-7 wasn't that close--they had -4 yds rushing! And yes the Missouri Valley is that good top to bottom.
One of my favorite sports sayings is--You're never as good as you think you are when you win and never as bad as you think you are when you lose. It wasn't a pretty game turnover wise, penalties in the 2nd half, offensively, etc BUT it was one game. Time to regroup, learn and fight on!! GO YOTES!!!
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Post by 88grad on Oct 4, 2015 8:55:29 GMT -6
Anyone know what happened to Bouma? I know he got hurt while blocking for Saeger, came back for part of the next series and then was gone for the rest of the game.
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Post by 94grad on Oct 4, 2015 9:21:07 GMT -6
I thought the defense did very well. Realistically they gave up 2 TD drives to the #10 team in the nation. To be fair, Youngstown did drop a TD, but so did we- more on that later. For us to have had a chance in the second half, we needed to stop them. The D forced FOUR punts to start the second half, giving the offense every opportunity to get us back in the game. But that didn't happen.
Saeger seemingly had a tough day. But if you looked downfield at what he was seeing, NO ONE was open. I don't know if that's on our receivers, their routes, the defenders, or the play calling. I think he would've had more INTs if he would've tried forcing some of those throws. He did make one very poor decision that should've been a pick 6 for the bad guys. Fortunately the defender dropped the ball.
The muffed punt on the 2 yard line was absolutely inexcusable. Pure mental mistake. Can't do that! Speaking of mental mistakes... Without a good replay, I couldn't tell if Saeger's arm was coming forward. Regardless, the ball is rolling around on the field, there's been no whistle, the officials aren't picking the ball up: Get on the ball! Whether you think it was a forward pass or whether you know it was a forward pass, CLEARLY the officials didn't think it was a forward pass, so Get on the ball! Another mental mistake.
Youngstown is FAST. There were multiple times I thought our RB had the edge and it disappeared immediately. On the other side of the ball, their #4 was the fastest (well, quickest for sure) player on the field.
It's hard to say one play makes the difference in a game, but think of how the game would've been different if we'd have reeled in that TD pass on the first drive. Good teams make that play and we need to make that play to progress.
Finally, did Bouma really come back in after he hobbled off? I thought he came in for another play or two and then they shut him down. Not sure, though. Anyone have any info?
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Post by yoteforever on Oct 4, 2015 13:02:11 GMT -6
Anyone know what happened to Bouma? I know he got hurt while blocking for Saeger, came back for part of the next series and then was gone for the rest of the game. High ankle sprain |
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Post by coyotega on Oct 4, 2015 16:18:39 GMT -6
I thought Joe Glenn was completely outcoached by Bo Pelini, and I say that not as a Nebraska fan at all.
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Post by nccyote on Oct 4, 2015 17:14:42 GMT -6
I thought Joe Glenn was completely outcoached by Bo Pelini, and I say that not as a Nebraska fan at all. Do you have any specific situational examples of how he was completely outcoached or are you just making a blanket statement because you don't know enough about football to go into detail? It had nothing to do with coaching, YSU is better, plain and simple. Did we play horrible on offense, yes. Did we make stupid mistakes on special teams, yes. Did our defense play with heart and keep us in the game for 3 quarters, yes. Can our coaches do somethings better, of course. Players need to make plays. If they don't, we won't win. This game seemed too big for some of the guys on that field yesterday, especially of offense and special teams. But we also need to understand, it was one game. For all of the posters that complain about play calling, what do you suggest that we do? I keep reading "all we do is run it up the middle", that's our offensive scheme and identity. We need to run the football to be successful. When we play teams that control the LOS, we will be in trouble. Look at the games that we have won, we were able to establish the running game, play action pass, and move the football. If we can't be successful running the football "up the middle", which believe it or not is what our offense is designed to do, how do you think we would execute if we throw our playbook out the window and start winging it around running spread stuff and doing things we don't have the personnel to do? It would have been even worse. Sometimes as a coach, you need to take your medicine. You can't completely change your offense in the middle of a game, this isn't a video game. Do we need to make better adjustment during the game, probably? We are not in the huddle, or on the sideline, or in the office during the week, so how can we judge the decisions that are made in terms of play calling or adjustments. Ever heard the phrase "you can't\'t make chicken salad out of chicken sh--". YSU is a better team, we saw that. Why don't we support our coaches and team, win or lose, and if administration sees fits to make a change, then so be it. I'm not saying that our coaches get a pass for the team playing poorly, that is why they are paid to be coaches, but I'm tired of seeing people piss and moan about coaching when you clearly have a novice understanding about football. Bottom 1/3 of the league facilities, bottom 1/3 of the league coaches pay, bottom 1/3 the league budget= bottom 1/3 of the league results. Coaching is about 4th or 5th on the list of needs for USD football. I rest my case, have a good weekend. Go Yotes! |
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Post by 88grad on Oct 4, 2015 17:38:12 GMT -6
Very well said NCCYOTE. I especially agree that until there is more money spent on facilities, staff etc. then we will always be a team that shouldn't have left the NCC.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Oct 4, 2015 18:02:04 GMT -6
www.argusleader.com/story/sports/college/university-of-south-dakota/2014/12/24/budget-barrier-winning-glenn-says/20878539/USD officials say that the budget is no barrier to winning in football. USD's budget is or was the lowest at 2.56 million. NDSU's was 4.44 million. I would say that is a big difference. However SDSU only has/had a football budget of 2.995 million which really isn't that big of a difference from where USD is and their's is the 3rd smallest in the conference. They don't have to use their budget as an excuse but rather they are simply much more resourceful with what they have. They win with what they have and USD should be able to do the same. The performance on Saturday had little to do with budget and moreso to do with coaching and overall talent on the field. That is a coaching issue and a recruiting issue more than a budget issue. The budget doesn't force a program to run an offense that might have worked in the 80's but is antiquated these days. Joe Glenn is the coach and GM of the program. He decides the players including recruting, he decides the coaches and he decides the philosophies used. The budget doesn't seem to be an issue when talking about the other programs, especially basketball. The facilities maybe aren't the best but I don't think they are the worst either. I personally like the dome as a facility.
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Post by GoYotes on Oct 4, 2015 19:01:13 GMT -6
In my opinion there were 3 momentum changers that could have had big effects on the game:
1) The dropped touchdown pass on the Yotes first possession
2) The so called fumble on Saeger. I watched that play a couple of times on ESPN3 today and it sure looked like Saeger's arm was moving forward in a passing motion which is the same way I saw it at the game. I assumed when they didn't review the play that they must not have had review available at the game. However later in the first half on a fumble that USD recovered and was going to be a first down whether they ruled it a fumble or not they decided to review the play.
3) The play calling near the end of the first half, when the Yotes had the ball at about the 20 yard line when it was 3rd and a short we throw an incomplete pass into the end zone on 3rd down and then missed a FG on 4th down. Converting a 1st down at that time and then potentially scoring a TD right at the end of the half would have been huge. The way the first half ended really took the crowd out of the game and sent a lot of fans to the exits.
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Post by Yotes on Oct 5, 2015 7:18:22 GMT -6
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