SDSU

[fightsd]

Nov 9, 2015 16:09:51 GMT -6 91jack said:

Nov 9, 2015 13:23:13 GMT -6 fightsd said:

Not bad. For a state fan, that almost made sense.

Thanks!

I was in a rush so I messed some of the last part up. It is supposed to say, they were in the same boat that USD is in. USD does have the #11 and #2 rated teams (of last week) to beat but it could happen.

Haha no smack intended. Just bustin your chops a little.

[Yotes]

The rankings are out and SDSU comes into this game ranked #5 in the FCS. FWIW, NDSU is ranked #2 and Illinois State #6. USD received 43rd most votes, all this according to the STATS FCS Poll. I feel USD is highly under-ranked in the polls as we have a resume that is just as good, if not better, than a lot of the teams at 16-25. All about where you started in the polls, what you have been in year's past, and just general perception since so many pollsters have no idea what's going on outside of their team that week.

Just to take this ranking game a little further, I see the Massey Ratings has SDSU at #4 and USD at #29. I also see a Vegas line with SDSU favored by 10.5.

And none of this means a damn thing as soon the ball is actually kicked off.

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Nov 9, 2015 19:49:40 GMT -6 Yotes said:

The rankings are out and SDSU comes into this game ranked #5 in the FCS. FWIW, NDSU is ranked #2 and Illinois State #6. USD received 43rd most votes, all this according to the STATS FCS Poll. I feel USD is highly under-ranked in the polls as we have a resume that is just as good, if not better, than a lot of the teams at 16-25. All about where you started in the polls, what you have been in year's past, and just general perception since so many pollsters have no idea what's going on outside of their team that week.

Just to take this ranking game a little further, I see the Massey Ratings has SDSU at #4 and USD at #29. I also see a Vegas line with SDSU favored by 10.5.

And none of this means a damn thing as soon the ball is actually kicked off.

USD at 29 seems about right. You're obviously better than some teams that are ranked but you play a tougher schedule so you aren't ranked as high.

10.5 is too high. I'd go 6.5 pts

[Yotes]

Nov 9, 2015 21:30:12 GMT -6 SDSUAlum08 said:

Nov 9, 2015 19:49:40 GMT -6 Yotes said:

The rankings are out and SDSU comes into this game ranked #5 in the FCS. FWIW, NDSU is ranked #2 and Illinois State #6. USD received 43rd most votes, all this according to the STATS FCS Poll. I feel USD is highly under-ranked in the polls as we have a resume that is just as good, if not better, than a lot of the teams at 16-25. All about where you started in the polls, what you have been in year's past, and just general perception since so many pollsters have no idea what's going on outside of their team that week.

Just to take this ranking game a little further, I see the Massey Ratings has SDSU at #4 and USD at #29. I also see a Vegas line with SDSU favored by 10.5.

And none of this means a damn thing as soon the ball is actually kicked off.

USD at 29 seems about right. You're obviously better than some teams that are ranked but you play a tougher schedule so you aren't ranked as high.

10.5 is too high. I'd go 6.5 pts

I agree on both those statements. 29 seems a heck of a lot more accurate, but I imagine a win or loss on Saturday will spot us a much more accurate ranking. Win and have a 6-4 record with wins over both highly ranked xDSUs and I would think we'd be about 20th in the polls, lose and we would rightly be out of the whole thing.

10.5 for SDSU is too high for a game that figures to be a defensive struggle, if anything. Maybe 9.5 on the high end. If I were in a position to be gambling I'd bet that SDSU does not win by more than a TD+FG.

[teamsd]

USD has to strike early. If we find ourselves in a hole, it will be a long game. Sure, at NDSU we were down early but NDSU and SDSU are two different teams. NDSU wins by attrition, while SDSU's offense seems to open games up with big plays. As previously stated, I feel that Wieneke is the X-Factor and our secondary will have to come prepared. Finally, our offense is going to have to keep it clean. The late penalties against SIU are concerning.

[thumper76]

As a Jacks an, if our Defense plays like it has been, we win easily, if they don't show up, it gets really scary. We give up a lot of yards, but very, very few points. I think we put up about 21-28 pts. I like our chances with our defense, but rivalry games always make me nervous. I hope its an injury free game. Best of luck Yotes. You're going to need it (sorry can't be 100% nice)

[Coyote Fan]

I look at this game much the same as the UNI game. SDSU is very good against the run and on defense in general. The biggest difference is that SDSU is a better passing team than UNI and not as good of a running team. The money is on them being able to shut down the Coyotes running game effectively. Saeger played well against Southern Illinois but there is a night and day difference between the Salukis and the Jacks when it comes to defending. If the Yotes are to win Saeger is going to need to be even better than he was against SIU. I don't think the Jacks will be able to run the football either. This game is going to come down to the quarterbacks head to head. I think whichever quarterback is better is going to win the game. As teamsd said above Wieneke will be the big advantage that the Jacks have that the Coyotes can't match with their offense. The Jacks may be able to get away with just throwing it up to him and letting him come down with the ball. Saeger is going to need to be more accurate with his passing because the Yotes don't have that same type of weapon. I believe the Jacks will end up having 2 or 3 game breaking type of plays. To match that the Coyotes are going to need to figure out a way to sustain drives.

I think 3rd down conversions will play a big factor in the game and I see both teams having many third and longs. I would like to see the Yotes put on some big blitzes in those situations to prevent the Jacks from having time to get plays off to their big time receiver. One thing I would like to see the Coyotes do on offense is to get Frederick out from between the tackles and more specifically on screen plays to the flats where he has a chance to take advantage of his open field abilities. I have always been a fan of screen plays because they are very low risk with very high reward and it gives the defense something to think about. Running up the middle will probably not work. Frederick needs to catch about 8 balls in this game but I doubt he will be utilized in that fashion. It's the job of these Coyote coaches to get this guy the ball in space however that is accomplished. Don't try to win a game of pure muscle against the Jacks defense. Just go around them and over them and make them spread out. Glenn doesn't seem to be a spread offense kind of coach but I think his power sets are not going to work against SDSU. If Glen and Wes do on offense what they have done in many of their losses the Coyotes won't win the game. If they come out with some imagination the Coyotes could win the game.

Overall Frederick is the kind of player I think could definately give the Jacks trouble but I am not sure the other players on offense are the types of players that are really going to hurt their defense. So for the Yotes to win on offense they need to really get Frederick the ball and have Saeger be able to have a really good day throwing the football. On D they just need to keep the Jacks in 3rd and longs, double Wieneke and put on some pressure to their quarterback. The Jacks O-line is not great so pressuring their two-headed monster quarterback is doable. Oh and Glenn will have to out coach Stig as well.

[88grad]

I'm not very familiar with any of the receivers for state but I like how Saeger always gets as many as nine people the ball during a game. Makes it a little harder to concentrate on one player.

[91jack]

Nov 10, 2015 9:26:49 GMT -6 88grad said:

I'm not very familiar with any of the receivers for state but I like how Saeger always gets as many as nine people the ball during a game. Makes it a little harder to concentrate on one player.

Here are the numbers for SDSU's receivers-

#1) Weineke- 51 catches for 1046 yards

#2-#7 all have between 12-19 catches. They all have between 140-325 yards. This group has 2-TE's, 1-RB and 3-WR's.

#8) 8 catches for 88 yards

#9) 7 catches for 65 yards.

[coyotecrazie5]

goyotes.com/

I can't get the link to the direct video, but the South Dakota Spotlight: State Rivalry with Lage is the main video on GoYotes.com

Here are some parts that caught my attention.

110th Meeting between SDSU/USD
1st game was a 6-6 tie in 1889
51-51-7 all time
USD has never trailed in the series.

Lage:
Grew up to two SDSU parents.
Wanted to go to SDSU until after the recruitment process and plans changed.
"I really liked the business program here, and it was really kind of non existent at SDSU."
Lage is a finance major to graduate in May.




He will be hard to replace next season.

[ctc2010]

Nov 10, 2015 16:16:36 GMT -6 coyotecrazie5 said:

goyotes.com/

I can't get the link to the direct video, but the South Dakota Spotlight: State Rivalry with Lage is the main video on GoYotes.com

Here are some parts that caught my attention.

110th Meeting between SDSU/USD
1st game was a 6-6 tie in 1889
51-51-7 all time
USD has never trailed in the series.

Lage:
Grew up to two SDSU parents.
Wanted to go to SDSU until after the recruitment process and plans changed.
"I really liked the business program here, and it was really kind of non existent at SDSU."
Lage is a finance major to graduate in May.




He will be hard to replace next season.

Here's the link to the video: goyotes.com/watch/?Archive=660

[Cousin Eddie]

State College beat writer or not, this is a well written piece from Matt Zimmer:

www.argusleader.com/story/sports/2015/11/10/coyotes-resurgence-has-sdsus-attention/75522010/

The Argus may not have a guy that busts his butt like TV did anymore, but I think the quality of their writing is much higher with Mick and Zimmer. Just my opinion, however.

[ElsenMidco]

This is for discussion purposes only, but sportbet.com has SDSU as a 10.5 point favorite and has set the over/under at 41. Thoughts?

[coyotecrazie5]

That's a very solid line IMO

[Yotes]

9.5 is what I thought the line should be. The most likely outcome of this game in my mind is SDSU winning by 7-10 points, though in a game like we have Saturday this thing could easily swing a couple TDs either way of that line.