SDSU

[olifer]

Nov 16, 2015 8:12:47 GMT -6 fightsd said:

I try and hold my tongue, and even stick up for the staff as often as I can. But why the hell would we run between the tackles on 3rd and 7 with a minute to go in the ball game? I know it worked, but come on.

I've been holding my tongue a LOT since Saturday, and like you I try to stick up for the staff as often as I can as well.  I said the same thing that you did, along with several other head scratchers.  How about just before half time when we've got the ball with a full set of downs and basically take a knee on two plays to run the clock out?

[nccyote]

What are we talking about here? We get the ball on our own 15, with 1 timeout and a QB who had already thrown 1 terrible INT, yet to throw a back breaking pick 6, and you want to start throwing it round in our own end and risk losing even more momentum going into halftime. I think the decision to run the clock out was definitely the right call.

As far as the run on 3rd and 7, we got 9 yards and a key first down, what more do you want. I'm sure there was a run pass option there and the QB saw the light box and ran the ball instead of trying to throw into 8 guys in coverage. I thought there were some unfortunate miscues during the 2 minute drill (Frederick not getting out of bounds on a short pass, bad break in the review and Munchie's helmet coming off forcing us to use the last time out) but we have to remember that our QB was hobbled, 1 of our top receivers (Van Roekel) was out with an injury, but what more do you want than a legitimate chance to win the game on the last play of the game.

I agree with yoteforever, the kids played their tails off. PERIOD. Yes, we lost a heartbreaker that I thought we were in control of going into the 4th quarter. SDSU is a very good team, might even be a top 8 seed in the playoffs, and we had them and let them slip away. We had opportunities to make game changing plays and we couldn't finish them out. The throwback pass is a TD for sure with a line drive throw, the double pass was a chance to win a 50/50 ball that we didn't get, and it seemed like we relaxed on defense when the freshman was benched for Lujan instead of feasting on the QB not having to worry about the dual threat.

All said, we are much improved, we are very close to getting over the hump, but there isn't a moral victory here, we lost a huge game that we should've won. We are not celebrating mediocrity by acknowledging the fact that the Coyotes are a better football this year, CF. I don't think anyone is thrilled that we "almost" beat the jacks.

[Yote 53]

No, I don't think anyone is thrilled we lost. I do get the sense that some in our fan base are satisfied with just competing though. We need to start beating State, bottom line, and Saturday we were in an excellent position to do just that and we let it slip away.

[GoYotes]

I agree with both yoteforever and nccyote. The game was there to win and we didn't make the couple of plays we needed. We were better than SDSU in virtually every statistical category, save the one that shows up on the scoreboard. We ran 91 offensive plays to just 57 for SDSU. Weineke was the difference. I believe I read somewhere that each SDSU scoring drive involved at least one pass to Weineke for 20+ yards. A lot of SDSU's FB & BB success in recent years is the result of off the radar recruits they have landed from Minnesota - Wolters, Zenner and now Weineke.

In addition to the plays mentioned by nccyote, I thought the biggest missed opportunity was the dropped interception midway through the 4th quarter. They forced us to punt in our first possession after they had scored to bring the score to 20-17 and took over at the 20 yard line. I believe it was the first play and was a pass in the flat to our right side. I can't remember who jumped the route, but he had the ball in his hands with nothing but green between him and the endzone and could not hang on to the ball. We score there, we go up 27 - 17 and put momentum back on our side. Game over.

[sdyotefan]

Another play that bugs me since we've done it several times this year (and several last year if I remember right) is we just score to go up 10 points and on the kickoff we angle kick to the left and the ball goes out of bounds so they get the ball at the 35 instead of the 25 with a touch back. On the first play they get 15 on a run then hit Weineke for 34 to the 16 then get a TD and the momentum starts to swing to them. I know that a touch back isn't a certainty but those extra 10 or maybe more if our coverage is good matter. As others have mentioned I assume these angle kicks are a coaching decision. I realize sometimes a squib kick down the middle can be effective against a dangerous returner but even those don't usually get you to the 35.

[wintheday]

Letting Weineke beat us bothers me more than anything. I understand that he didn't actually beat us, SDSU did and hats off to them. The simple fact is that Lujan coming in completely threw our defense off, I am not sure if we were not prepared for him or not. Beings as him and TC had been sharing reps, I would assume we should be ready. Not sure why we did not try to double Weineke, Lujan was not going to beat us by extending the play. Again, it was just a culmination of bad football down the stretch by all three phases and that is what separates good teams from great teams. Hopefully Coach Glenn can get the troops rallied and hope for pandemonium in the FCS because if UND gets in despite almost losing to Drake and actually losing to Idaho State, I may lose more hair than Saturday.

[yotemeal]

Nov 15, 2015 10:17:21 GMT -6 Cousin Eddie said:

Nov 14, 2015 23:43:36 GMT -6 golfingyote said:

The coverage on weineke was unreal. I'm baffled by our ineptitude there. Absolute disaster.

I think you underestimate how good he is. Before you say he was wide open, a big portion of what I mean is his speed (regardless of his great size) and his route running.

Best player in the conference, IMO.

Weineke was the difference maker, and he's the type of talent that can make a lot of QBs look good and DBs look bad. USD wins Saturday if not for Weineke.

[Yote 53]

Ugh, UND is the product of a weak conference. The Yotes would roll them up much like the Bison did earlier this season.

[Yotes]

Cripes is UND actually in the playoff hunt? I'm not sure they beat anyone besides Missouri State in the MVFC.

[yotesfan1985]

Nov 16, 2015 13:27:53 GMT -6 yotemeal said:

Nov 15, 2015 10:17:21 GMT -6 Cousin Eddie said:

I think you underestimate how good he is. Before you say he was wide open, a big portion of what I mean is his speed (regardless of his great size) and his route running.

Best player in the conference, IMO.

Weineke was the difference maker, and he's the type of talent that can make a lot of QBs look good and DBs look bad. USD wins Saturday if not for Weineke.

agree. Ditto. Same

[GoYotes]

Nov 16, 2015 13:28:14 GMT -6 Yote 53 said:

Ugh, UND is the product of a weak conference. The Yotes would roll them up much like the Bison did earlier this season.

If UND makes the playoffs, it is simply the result of too many teams receiving bids with 24 teams making the playoffs. I guess the benefit is that no undeserving team gets left out of the playoffs, but the flip side is that too many teams without a realistic chance to win the title do make the playoffs. I firmly believe that USD could beat many of the teams that will make the playoffs, but if we cannot finish in the top 3 or 4 in our conference, we have reason to complain about not making the playoffs.

Just for the record, USD & UND shared 3 common opponents this year:

1) UC Davis - Yotes won 27 - 17 at Davis & UND won 31-24 at home
2) Drake - USD won 52-0 at home & UND won 21-18 at home
3) NDSU - Yotes won 24-21 at Fargo & UND lost 34-9 at Fargo

[nccyote]

As easy as it is to look at UND and feel nauseated at the fact that they are in the hunt, we can't knock them for their situation. The BSC is a weaker conference, no doubt about it, but you have to play the cards you're dealt, and they have done that. If they make it in, we cannot complain. We had every opportunity to put ourselves into contention this year and didn't quite get the job done. I think a Valley team that is over .500 is a playoff team no doubt, but we couldn't get there this year. We are close, and now the players, coaches, and most fans believe it is possible soon. But until we get to above .500 in league play, we cannot complain about not making the playoffs.

We need to treat Illinois St. like a bowl game and get some big time momentum going into the off-season.

[coyotecrazie5]

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[teamsd]

I don't believe in moral victories. Moreover, I am as fed up with us losing to state as anyone else on this board. That being said, It is cool to see a team that actually looks like their having fun, for once. It will be interesting what our team and staff looks like next year. that conversation is for another day...

[91jack]

Nov 14, 2015 23:46:05 GMT -6 Yotes said:

I must have tailgated harder than I realized since I never recognized that Saeger was limping and possibly playing hurt.

I've never been a big fan of the two quarterback system but it might be good that SDSU has that this year.

You guys knocked out NDSU's QB and now yours is injured. I am still impressed with your win over NDSU because even though their QB was injured, you ran the ball on them and you stopped their running game. Their QB does run the ball some but you stopped their strength. SDSU sure couldn't do that when they played them.

If you had another QB you could of brought him in if Saeger was hurting you team that bad. On the Coyote Corner, coach Glenn said that the pick 6 was because Langer drove the offensive lineman back into Saeger and hit his arm. I don't know if that really happened but it might have.

I have to point one more thing out. Did you notice that on your second touchdown the ball was snapped from inside the end zone? I have never seen the ball in the end zone before it was snapped. That reminded me of about four years ago when NDSU had a center that would move the ball up about 6 inches before every snap. The officials never saw it or they just let it go. I didn't pay much attention to it in this game before or after that touchdown but (on TV) they showed a replay to see if he crossed the goal line or not from right down the goal line and you could see the ball being snapped form in the end zone.