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Post by 88grad on Sept 11, 2016 12:49:18 GMT -6
I don't know if screen passes and dives up the middle are just easier to execute in order to keep the up-tempo offense rolling but I hope we can incorporate a few more things into the mix! However, it's hard to argue against almost 500 yards of O.
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Post by Cousin Eddie on Sept 11, 2016 17:36:33 GMT -6
106 offensive plays
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Post by fightsd on Sept 12, 2016 6:27:41 GMT -6
I don't know if screen passes and dives up the middle are just easier to execute in order to keep the up-tempo offense rolling but I hope we can incorporate a few more things into the mix! However, it's hard to argue against almost 500 yards of O. Agreed. I think we've seen about enough of that little spot screen to the WR. We ran that about a dozen times for no gain on Saturday. |
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Post by sdyotefan on Sept 12, 2016 8:59:28 GMT -6
Congrats to Chris and Miles on being selected MVFC players of the week!! Chris as offensive player and newcomer and Miles special teams. Certainly well deserved by both players!!
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Post by Coyote Fan on Sept 12, 2016 21:16:56 GMT -6
For decades the Coyotes have not had the kind of a team that could win a game such as the one on Saturday. Time after Time after Time the Coyotes lose these types of games. They never come back from 3 scores down in the 4th quarter to actually finish the deal and get the win. Usually the Coyotes fold in crunch time but this time they thrived in it. What a game indeed. Many left after the third quarter and honestly I was getting that same type of a feeling but I am glad I didn't leave. I knew with Steveler's legs alone that the Coyotes could break one at any minute. That interception returned deep into Weber State territory was the turning point. The 4th down tying touchdown was clutch and I thought the play of the game, even over the winning field goal. Nielson's first game is a classic. Hopefully we can see these types of wins be much more common. Not the get down by 3 touchdown part of it but the part of succeeding in crunch time.
There were concerns as well that need to be addressed. I don't blame the fluke start as those things just happen from time to time. What I didn't like was how Weber State controlled too much of the play during the 2nd and 3rd quarters. The passing game really came on in the 4th quarter but to that point it concerned me quite a bit. Teams are going to force the Yotes to throw and they are going to need to take advantage of that type of opening much more consistantly. The defense was just not very good for way too much of the game. That simply has to improve.
One thing that really bugs the heck out of me is how regulation ended. It's not just the Yotes but many teams in general on why they don't take a shot downfield on basically a no lose situation. Why did the Coyotes just sit on the ball at mid field. They could have at least taken a shot at the end zone. The chances of a Weber State touchdown on the last play of the game are about 50 times less likely that the chance of hitting on a hail mary. A well executed hail mary can have a prayer answered once out of 50 times. Why not take the shot. If nothing else a penalty on the defense would have given the Coyotes a chance to win.
There are things that need improving but the bottom line is that the Coyotes produced when the chips were down and that is the bottom line, that is the kind of thing that can pay big dividends down the line. They won't panic in tense situations as likely and will believe they always have a chance to win.
Great game and very fun game to be at.
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Post by Yote 53 on Sept 13, 2016 8:04:54 GMT -6
Don't know what game you watched but the Coyotes controlled that game for the majority of it, not on the scoreboard but on the field for sure. If you just walked in the Dome and there was no scoreboard you would watch that game and think the Yotes were winning handily. The stats bear that out as USD ran over 100 plays, put up 491 yards total offense with over 300 rushing, and had almost double the number of first downs. That's a whooping. What made the game remotely close were 3 horrible turnovers leading to 21 points and a couple of brain farts on D that led to a couple of big plays. Clean up about 6 plays in that game and it was a total domination.
As for flinging the Hail Mary at the end of the game, at the end of regulation the Coyotes had already won. Weber had blown a massive lead, they knew they were sunk in OT. No point in running a play where there is a chance something flukey could happen again. I could just imagine some sort of fumble in the backfield and a scoop and 6, or something crazy like that. Coyotes get the ball in OT and promptly score. Weber gets stoned the first few plays on offense and then pulls one out their butt on a play where the USD defender was in position to make the play but was lost in space. He keeps his bearings and just turns around he knocks down the ball and the game is over. Weber then does nothing again on offense then promptly misses the FG. USD, only needs a FG now so just body blows its way down the field then kicks it for the win. Easy peezy.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Sept 13, 2016 18:22:29 GMT -6
Actually the Coyotes had a huge lead in yardage after the first period when they were down big. Weber controlled much of the middle 2 quarters and it wasn't until the 4th that the Coyotes seized the yardage lead. I am pretty sure if you add up the 2nd and 3rd quarters that Weber would have controlled the yardage during that span. The Yotes cut the lead to a touchdown quickly after being down big early but then Weber controlled the middle of the game to get back a 21 point lead. It was a fluke how Weber got their first 3 touchdown lead but it wasn't a fluke how they got that lead back to 3 touchdowns a second time. Of course I will take the win but this is the easiest game of the year and it took a near miracle to get the win. Let's hope for more comebacks if needed but much improvement is still needed.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Sept 13, 2016 18:43:20 GMT -6
After checking the play by play I calculated that Weber State outgained the Coyotes 211-136 during the middle two quarters. Of course that means that during the 1st and 4th quarters the Coyotes held a decided edge. Weber State actually had the edge in total yardage before the Coyotes come back started in the 4th quarter. I am very happy for the win but at the same time I don't think by any measure that the Coyotes dominated this game. The biggest win in my eyes is that the Coyotes dominated when it mattered most. That is something the Coyotes don't really have a knack for doing especially when trailing late in a game. That could be the biggest change in trends that could lead this program to bigger and better things.
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Post by Yotes on Sept 13, 2016 20:06:54 GMT -6
Comparing common opponents from 2015 and this 2016 Weber State team paints a favorable picture for USD:
USD 52 vs Drake 0 - UND 21 vs Drake 18
USD 24 at NDSU 21 - UND 9 at NDSU 34 (a game in which UND had 4 yards of rushing and 57 yards passing)
USD 27 at UC Davis 17 - UND 31 vs UC Davis 24
USD 52 vs Weber State 49 - UND 24 at Weber State 25
While the transitive property doesn't exactly apply to football it's hard to ignore how much better USD has fared against these recent common opponents.
Not sure how much value this holds as we transcend eras, but UND has won 12 straight games against USD in Grand Forks. Last time USD won there was in 1985. We also are a couple coaches removed from our last game with UND as the last matchup was in 2011 during Meierkort's last season. So yeah, it's been a little while since these teams have faced each other.
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Post by yote14 on Sept 14, 2016 10:43:02 GMT -6
I was glad coach Nielson called out the fans for leaving early during his post game press conference. Adam Harris called the fans out during his interview for the Argus story today too. If you left at halftime or the end of the 3rd quarter shame on you.
If you are part of the fan base who calls security to make people sit down, shame on you.
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Post by usdtator on Sept 14, 2016 12:23:26 GMT -6
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Post by gopheryote on Sept 14, 2016 12:34:50 GMT -6
I think Yote fans need to let go of some of the stats or keys that we are used to looking for. With the change in offensive philosophy there is also a change in defensive philosophy. Much like the Gophers during the Glen Mason era, games are often 45-42, and you never know which side of the score you will be on. Over time the personnel on D can be recruited, but total yardage and time of possession don't matter with this offense. The goal is to get hands on hips for the other team, which leads to big plays late in the game.
Plus, the games are a blast, even in a loss.🤗
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Post by coyotecrazie5 on Sept 14, 2016 12:52:41 GMT -6
Dale Murphy, nice!
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Post by Coyote Fan on Sept 14, 2016 16:45:02 GMT -6
I think Yote fans need to let go of some of the stats or keys that we are used to looking for. With the change in offensive philosophy there is also a change in defensive philosophy. Much like the Gophers during the Glen Mason era, games are often 45-42, and you never know which side of the score you will be on. Over time the personnel on D can be recruited, but total yardage and time of possession don't matter with this offense. The goal is to get hands on hips for the other team, which leads to big plays late in the game. Plus, the games are a blast, even in a loss.🤗 I agree with the time of possession not being as important but I think yardage is important regardless of the offense that is run. Other than being opportunistic in the red zone the total yardage that the offense generates is generally how effective the offense is overall. If the Coyotes run a hurry up offense and go 3 and out 80% of the time that offense won't be effective. Any offense wouldn't be effective. I like this offense personally but I think the passing game needs to be a bit more consistent. I would also like to see Frederick used more often. |
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Post by Yotes on Sept 14, 2016 20:06:52 GMT -6
I think Yote fans need to let go of some of the stats or keys that we are used to looking for. With the change in offensive philosophy there is also a change in defensive philosophy. Much like the Gophers during the Glen Mason era, games are often 45-42, and you never know which side of the score you will be on. Over time the personnel on D can be recruited, but total yardage and time of possession don't matter with this offense. The goal is to get hands on hips for the other team, which leads to big plays late in the game. Plus, the games are a blast, even in a loss.🤗 I agree with the time of possession not being as important but I think yardage is important regardless of the offense that is run. Other than being opportunistic in the red zone the total yardage that the offense generates is generally how effective the offense is overall. If the Coyotes run a hurry up offense and go 3 and out 80% of the time that offense won't be effective. Any offense wouldn't be effective. I like this offense personally but I think the passing game needs to be a bit more consistent. I would also like to see Frederick used more often. Yards are of course still important, but yards per play is the metric you should be using if you want to look at the offense's productivity based on yards. Comparing last year's game against Drake and this year's game against Weber State to illustrate: Score USD 52 - Drake 0 USD 52 - Weber State 49 Yards USD 476 against Drake USD 491 against Weber State Total offensive plays 65 against Drake for 7.3 yards per play 106 against Weber State for 4.6 yards per play You can't look at total yards without a critical eye towards how many more plays the no-huddle offense creates. 491 yards sounds like a lot of offense, but isn't nearly as great as it sounds if you look at it objectively. |
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