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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2016 18:11:16 GMT -6
UND shouldn't be allowed in without baseball. And USD should be "forced" to start baseball, too. How about Denver and IUPUI? Ready to toss them if they don't pick up the sport? Yes definitely. I just knew that USD had dropped it about ten? Years ago. No smack or whatever intended by the baseball comment. I just think the conference needs to stabilize and that'd help. |
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Post by Yotes on Nov 6, 2016 18:25:08 GMT -6
Baseball just doesn't make sense in the upper midwest when the season has to start in March. The first month is unplayable with the weather in this region and the better climate programs are going to have an advantage. In the college world series each year there is probably on average 7 out 8 of the participants that play in good weather locations. There is nothing wrong with baseball in general but there is something wrong with baseball in the north in basically winter and early spring type conditions. Just say "no" to baseball because of the factors involved. Well if you enjoy having an autobid to the NCAA basketball tournament you might want to care.... I don't understand this. If the SL doesn't have enough baseball teams to get an autobid, why would all other sports be affected? Doesn't the Summit sponsor enough sports already that we can do without baseball and remain compliant? Checking online it seems we would be at 16 sports without baseball, the same number of sports the Big Sky sponsors - and I hear nothing about them potentially losing autobids for all sports. I have zero issue keeping baseball in the Summit League, we'd probably lose Oral Roberts if the SL lost its autobid in baseball, but I don't understand the fears. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2016 19:15:25 GMT -6
Well if you enjoy having an autobid to the NCAA basketball tournament you might want to care.... I don't understand this. If the SL doesn't have enough baseball teams to get an autobid, why would all other sports be affected? Doesn't the Summit sponsor enough sports already that we can do without baseball and remain compliant? Checking online it seems we would be at 16 sports without baseball, the same number of sports the Big Sky sponsors - and I hear nothing about them potentially losing autobids for all sports. I have zero issue keeping baseball in the Summit League, we'd probably lose Oral Roberts if the SL lost its autobid in baseball, but I don't understand the fears. Then you don't understand how it works. There's something called 'core sports' that conferences sponsor and they must have enough teams to have an auto bid for all of those sports. Baseball is a core sport in the Summit League. |
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Post by gopheryote on Nov 6, 2016 19:16:34 GMT -6
Oh man - the rabbit clown circus has already set up camp on the Coyote board. Easily the worst part of a State/U game week.
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Post by dave on Nov 6, 2016 19:23:49 GMT -6
Well if you enjoy having an autobid to the NCAA basketball tournament you might want to care.... I don't understand this. If the SL doesn't have enough baseball teams to get an autobid, why would all other sports be affected? Doesn't the Summit sponsor enough sports already that we can do without baseball and remain compliant? Checking online it seems we would be at 16 sports without baseball, the same number of sports the Big Sky sponsors - and I hear nothing about them potentially losing autobids for all sports. I have zero issue keeping baseball in the Summit League, we'd probably lose Oral Roberts if the SL lost its autobid in baseball, but I don't understand the fears. It's a ncaa rule, in order to maintain the autobid in basketball the conference has to have x number of sports that have enough schools participating in those sports that the conference has an autobid. Clear as mud? I don't know the exact rule and don't want to look it up. I do know that the Summit was below the minimum in baseball and had to use a waiver from the ncaa until UNO was a qualifier in baseball to maintain the baseball autobid which insures a basketball autobid. My interpretation of the rule is that conferences have to offer a full slate of sports, can't be a basketball only conference. I could be wrong and someone please correct me if I am. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2016 19:30:26 GMT -6
Oh man - the rabbit clown circus has already set up camp on the Coyote board. Easily the worst part of a State/U game week. I'm here every week. |
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Post by GoYotes on Nov 6, 2016 20:09:34 GMT -6
NCAA Bylaw 18.5 Automatic Qualification by Conference.
18.5.1 Division Championship. To be eligible for automatic qualification into any Division I championship,
a conference shall: (Revised: 1/9/06 effective 8/1/06)
(a) Have at least six member institutions classified in Division I in the sport in which automatic qualification is
sought; and
(b) Meet all requirements for conference automatic qualification into any division championship as set forth in
Bylaw 31.3.4.
18.5.2 National Collegiate Championship. [#] To be eligible for automatic qualification into any National
Collegiate Championship, a conference shall: (Adopted: 1/9/06 effective 8/1/06)
(a) Have at least six active members that sponsor the applicable sport in any division;
(b) Meet all applicable requirements for conference automatic qualification into any National Collegiate Championship
as set forth in Bylaw 31.3.4.
18.5.3 Men’s Basketball Eligibility Requirements. For automatic qualification in the sport of men’s
basketball in Division I, a conference shall meet the following additional requirements: (Revised: 1/10/91 effective
8/1/91)
(a) It shall determine a conference champion in at least six men’s sports [at least two of which must be team sports
as set forth in Bylaw 31.3.4.1-(a)]; and in each of these six sports, at least six of the conference’s member institutions
shall sponsor the sport on the varsity intercollegiate level; and
(b) It shall conduct double round-robin, in-season conference competition, or a minimum of 14 conference
games, before declaring its champion in basketball.
The lack of 6 baseball playing schools would definitely take away the autobid for baseball. What is unclear is the effect on the basketball autobid. The above bolded bylaw says the conference must determine a team champion in at least 2 team sports. If basketball can be included as one of the two, then only one other team sport champion is needed. The League has 6 members plus an affiliate, Eastern Illinois, that play soccer and a conference champion is determined. If that is the case, the baseball isn't needed to maintain the hoops autobid.
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Post by thumper76 on Nov 6, 2016 20:30:05 GMT -6
Oh man - the rabbit clown circus has already set up camp on the Coyote board. Easily the worst part of a State/U game week. Yeah, how dare we add to the knowledge around here. Which apparently is pretty low if that isn't a known fact. |
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Post by Yotes on Nov 6, 2016 22:46:32 GMT -6
Oh man - the rabbit clown circus has already set up camp on the Coyote board. Easily the worst part of a State/U game week. Yeah, how dare we add to the knowledge around here. Which apparently is pretty low if that isn't a known fact. Really not adding anything thus far... |
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Post by yote14 on Nov 7, 2016 14:45:29 GMT -6
Thumper76 you are a tool.
You are a tool when you come on this board and you are a tool on the Any Given Saturday blog too.
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Post by Yote 53 on Nov 7, 2016 15:03:12 GMT -6
You mean how he always types out USD as "USeD" when he refers to our school on AGS? I can picture him being all giddy when typing that, like a 6 year old who farts and thinks it's funny and everybody is laughing with him. It actually makes him look like a pathetic loser that I don't need to take serious or engage in conversation with.
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Post by thumper76 on Nov 7, 2016 16:16:36 GMT -6
You mean how he always types out USD as "USeD" when he refers to our school on AGS? I can picture him being all giddy when typing that, like a 6 year old who farts and thinks it's funny and everybody is laughing with him. It actually makes him look like a pathetic loser that I don't need to take serious or engage in conversation with. Thumper76 you are a tool. You are a tool when you come on this board and you are a tool on the Any Given Saturday blog too. I don't write for the AGS blog. Don't care that you don't like me. I happen to be right a lot when it comes to football though TBH. I don't even talk that much smack when I do poke my head over here. Serious question though, how much does it bother you that even the UNI writers call you our little brother? Or are you just USeD to it? onpressrow.com/test/2016/11/07/mvfc-at-a-glance-week-10/Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Post by Yote 53 on Nov 7, 2016 16:36:24 GMT -6
Well then somebody else is using your handle over on AGS.
Thumper 76
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Post by Yotes on Nov 7, 2016 18:07:37 GMT -6
Says he doesn't talk that much smack. Both posts are literally nothing but smack...
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Post by thumper76 on Nov 7, 2016 18:19:39 GMT -6
Well then somebody else is using your handle over on AGS. Thumper 76 Join Date:Nov 2008 My Team:South Dakota State Location:Fargo Posts:3,529 Yup, that's me. Wasn't talking about over there, but you guys have pretty tender feelings so whatever you want to think I guess. Says he doesn't talk that much smack. Both posts are literally nothing but smack... Actually my first post was just regarding baseball being important to the basketball autobid which led to crying about SDSU fans coming over here, and then I responded in kind. Oh well. |
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