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Post by usdtator on Nov 14, 2016 9:45:44 GMT -6
Speaking of Ed... I have only been a member of this forum since Dec of last year... I've done some digging in old posts, but have never come across anything as to why Ed was fired... Anyone care to enlighten me on this?
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Post by goyotes24 on Nov 14, 2016 9:51:41 GMT -6
Speaking of Ed... I have only been a member of this forum since Dec of last year... I've done some digging in old posts, but have never come across anything as to why Ed was fired... Anyone care to enlighten me on this? I heard it was a combination of him blowing two leads in two different games which would have won the conference, and possible mishandling of funds and what not. I don't think he did anything 'illegal' per se, but I heard he was irresponsible with per diems, etc. This is what I heard from different people within the program, but I do not know exactly how true it is, though (so maybe take it with a grain of salt). |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 14, 2016 13:54:35 GMT -6
When the Coyotes trashed the UND locker room after their loss to them may have been the final straw for Ed.
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Post by jackrabbit1979 on Nov 15, 2016 10:19:02 GMT -6
Curious for those that attended the game in person, thoughts on DJD Stadium? Not looking for unwavering praise, but am always interested in hearing others take on a new place...
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Post by Yote 53 on Nov 15, 2016 12:14:18 GMT -6
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Post by golfingyote on Nov 15, 2016 12:14:42 GMT -6
Curious for those that attended the game in person, thoughts on DJD Stadium? Not looking for unwavering praise, but am always interested in hearing others take on a new place... I was quite impressed. a 2nd videoboard would be useful, especially when looking into the sun from the west side, but thats getting prettt picky. When you pair that stadium with the Dykhouse center, thats a pretty impressive combo for football at this level. |
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Post by canislatrans on Nov 15, 2016 13:01:26 GMT -6
Did they run out of $$ to remove the checkerboard endzones?
Seriously, haven't seen it in person, but from TV and online coverage it looks like it is quite impressive! Enjoy!
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 15, 2016 13:10:19 GMT -6
Just having an artificial turf field is more important than any of the other bells and whistles that come with the new stadium. That old grass field wasn't suitable for a high school game let alone a Valley team. Other than that the only thing I can think of is that I believe they should have built more seats goal line to goal line and less seats around the ends. Otherwise no fault I can point out with their new stadium. I look forward to eventually seeing it in person but it looks like that will have to wait at least 2 years. The Jacks and Coyotes both got the new facilities they needed badly.
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Post by coyotecrazie5 on Nov 15, 2016 13:58:52 GMT -6
The stadium looks great. I was unimpressed with how much they have spread out tailgating tho.
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Post by yoteforever on Nov 15, 2016 15:55:21 GMT -6
Curious for those that attended the game in person, thoughts on DJD Stadium? Not looking for unwavering praise, but am always interested in hearing others take on a new place... First of all, kudos for getting the win. You deserved it but I was proud of how our kids, despite the huge yard advantage still had the opportunity to pull out the win. Now to answer your question, I was very impressed with the gameday experience inside the stadium. It's very nice. Great turf, clean look to it, and really plenty of room in the bleachers. Great place to watch a game. Your tailgating situation is not good. I've never seen so many uptight people in all my life. Security once the game started outside was non existent. We had several hundred dollars of things stolen from the tailgate area that would never happen in Vermillion due to security. That was disappointing to experience. Parking and getting out is also an issue, but it is what it is. We are used to getting in the vehicle and pulling out. You're stuck for a minimum of 45 minutes there. Not a deal breaker but maybe something that could be addressed. It's really a good place to watch a game. I would like to see the inside of your boxes sometime to see if they are nice, or just boxes. Then there's always going to be the age old question of how many people stay home on questionable weather days. But I think you should be proud. I'm happy for you. |
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Post by yoteforever on Nov 15, 2016 15:57:06 GMT -6
Wouldn't everyone at least agree that a team that is under a new coach and new system should improve throughout the year and they have not. We can talk about all the close games and that is fine but also consider that if the Coyotes lose to NDSU that their best win all year long would have been by 3 points. There is one common theme. I have always been told to wait one more year. Glenn was a sure thing and when he started 0-8 in the conference his first year that we should not worry and honestly that same thing was still said 3 years later. He was too good and too proven for this to continue. Then after he went 3-1 in the conference his second year we definitely were on the right track, correct? Nope an 0-4 finish sent the team reeling for a long time. Then after another 0-8 year people were still holding tight on the steering wheel while I was squarely jumping ship. Then another 3-5 campaign but the wheels started falling off again at the end of the year. Another common theme and part of the whole 1-19 thing. People were still wanting to continue on with Glenn and some would have stayed on that ship forever. So Nielson comes in and we have the same thing. He is a sure thing, we cannot go wrong again. Maybe that will still be true but here we go again. They show promise and then totally collapse again. The offense is unstoppable and suddenly they stop somehow. This is called the definition of insanity. I have a request. Instead of doing the same thing and staying patient how about we try just going totally ballistic for once. How about we have a 10 page thread of just complaining like they do on boards where the fans care. Good fan bases get very angry when their teams don't do well. They bitch and moan. There is hardly any of that here. When the Coyotes lose I want to hear people actually show some anger. I don't want to read after a tough loss everyone saying that it will all be ok. Is that really the case, will it be ok? Our history shows that it will not. Imagine if the team in the locker room after a loss took the same attitude as the fan base. They lose go to the locker room and don't throw a few helmets and don't feel like their heart was ripped out. I can tell you if a team took a loss without being angry about it they will keep losing until they do get angry about it and if they never do then they will never win because they don't care enough. I am not saying that a team should trash a locker room or anything but I don't want a team that loses to just blow it off. I think the fan base should be the same. Let's stop just blowing off the failures year after year. The more a fan base on average get angry with losing the more administration will sense the vibe and be more likely to demand more. The USD fan base just doesn't get very angry. BTW yotebewithyou regarding this quote " Give them time to grow and give the staff a freaking break" That is exactly what has happened with the USD fan base year after year after year times 30 and what has that exactly accomplished? Maybe we should try a different approach for once. as we know there are no guarantees of anything. Almost never with USD football is a step forward followed by another step forward. The inevitable step back always happens. Maybe that will change but don't fool yourself thinking that next year will for sure be better then this year. Just look back at history. Were you at the game? |
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Post by Yote 53 on Nov 15, 2016 16:58:41 GMT -6
Curious for those that attended the game in person, thoughts on DJD Stadium? Not looking for unwavering praise, but am always interested in hearing others take on a new place... First of all, kudos for getting the win. You deserved it but I was proud of how our kids, despite the huge yard advantage still had the opportunity to pull out the win. Now to answer your question, I was very impressed with the gameday experience inside the stadium. It's very nice. Great turf, clean look to it, and really plenty of room in the bleachers. Great place to watch a game. Your tailgating situation is not good. I've never seen so many uptight people in all my life. Security once the game started outside was non existent. We had several hundred dollars of things stolen from the tailgate area that would never happen in Vermillion due to security. That was disappointing to experience. Parking and getting out is also an issue, but it is what it is. We are used to getting in the vehicle and pulling out. You're stuck for a minimum of 45 minutes there. Not a deal breaker but maybe something that could be addressed. It's really a good place to watch a game. I would like to see the inside of your boxes sometime to see if they are nice, or just boxes. Then there's always going to be the age old question of how many people stay home on questionable weather days. But I think you should be proud. I'm happy for you. That's unfortunate you were burglarized. You're right in that stuff just doesn't happen at USD tailgates and not because of any special security, it just doesn't happen. We've left coolers, food, grills, etc. out in the open all the time and nothing gets touched. |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 15, 2016 18:36:36 GMT -6
Wouldn't everyone at least agree that a team that is under a new coach and new system should improve throughout the year and they have not. We can talk about all the close games and that is fine but also consider that if the Coyotes lose to NDSU that their best win all year long would have been by 3 points. There is one common theme. I have always been told to wait one more year. Glenn was a sure thing and when he started 0-8 in the conference his first year that we should not worry and honestly that same thing was still said 3 years later. He was too good and too proven for this to continue. Then after he went 3-1 in the conference his second year we definitely were on the right track, correct? Nope an 0-4 finish sent the team reeling for a long time. Then after another 0-8 year people were still holding tight on the steering wheel while I was squarely jumping ship. Then another 3-5 campaign but the wheels started falling off again at the end of the year. Another common theme and part of the whole 1-19 thing. People were still wanting to continue on with Glenn and some would have stayed on that ship forever. So Nielson comes in and we have the same thing. He is a sure thing, we cannot go wrong again. Maybe that will still be true but here we go again. They show promise and then totally collapse again. The offense is unstoppable and suddenly they stop somehow. This is called the definition of insanity. I have a request. Instead of doing the same thing and staying patient how about we try just going totally ballistic for once. How about we have a 10 page thread of just complaining like they do on boards where the fans care. Good fan bases get very angry when their teams don't do well. They bitch and moan. There is hardly any of that here. When the Coyotes lose I want to hear people actually show some anger. I don't want to read after a tough loss everyone saying that it will all be ok. Is that really the case, will it be ok? Our history shows that it will not. Imagine if the team in the locker room after a loss took the same attitude as the fan base. They lose go to the locker room and don't throw a few helmets and don't feel like their heart was ripped out. I can tell you if a team took a loss without being angry about it they will keep losing until they do get angry about it and if they never do then they will never win because they don't care enough. I am not saying that a team should trash a locker room or anything but I don't want a team that loses to just blow it off. I think the fan base should be the same. Let's stop just blowing off the failures year after year. The more a fan base on average get angry with losing the more administration will sense the vibe and be more likely to demand more. The USD fan base just doesn't get very angry. BTW yotebewithyou regarding this quote " Give them time to grow and give the staff a freaking break" That is exactly what has happened with the USD fan base year after year after year times 30 and what has that exactly accomplished? Maybe we should try a different approach for once. as we know there are no guarantees of anything. Almost never with USD football is a step forward followed by another step forward. The inevitable step back always happens. Maybe that will change but don't fool yourself thinking that next year will for sure be better then this year. Just look back at history. Were you at the game? I was not at the game. I tried to watch it but was only able to view the game until midway through the 4th quarter since the broadcast was down on ESPN 3 for most of the game. I had to make choices and decided to go to the Pentagon to watch basketball on Friday and then to Vermillion to watch the double header on Sunday. It would have made it a very difficult decision had the Coyotes not lost both games leading up to the game but I didn't regret as much not being there because of the loss of momentum going in. |
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Post by Yotes on Nov 15, 2016 22:55:06 GMT -6
Spoken like a true fan.
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Post by gopheryote on Nov 16, 2016 9:08:46 GMT -6
So Nielson comes in and we have the same thing. He is a sure thing, we cannot go wrong again. Maybe that will still be true but here we go again. They show promise and then totally collapse again. The offense is unstoppable and suddenly they stop somehow. This is called the definition of insanity. I have a request. Instead of doing the same thing and staying patient how about we try just going totally ballistic for once. How about we have a 10 page thread of just complaining like they do on boards where the fans care. Good fan bases get very angry when their teams don't do well. They bitch and moan. There is hardly any of that here. When the Coyotes lose I want to hear people actually show some anger. I don't want to read after a tough loss everyone saying that it will all be ok. Is that really the case, will it be ok? Our history shows that it will not. Imagine if the team in the locker room after a loss took the same attitude as the fan base. They lose go to the locker room and don't throw a few helmets and don't feel like their heart was ripped out. I can tell you if a team took a loss without being angry about it they will keep losing until they do get angry about it and if they never do then they will never win because they don't care enough. I am not saying that a team should trash a locker room or anything but I don't want a team that loses to just blow it off. I think the fan base should be the same. Let's stop just blowing off the failures year after year. The more a fan base on average get angry with losing the more administration will sense the vibe and be more likely to demand more. The USD fan base just doesn't get very angry. BTW yotebewithyou regarding this quote " Give them time to grow and give the staff a freaking break" That is exactly what has happened with the USD fan base year after year after year times 30 and what has that exactly accomplished? Maybe we should try a different approach for once. as we know there are no guarantees of anything. Almost never with USD football is a step forward followed by another step forward. The inevitable step back always happens. Maybe that will change but don't fool yourself thinking that next year will for sure be better then this year. Just look back at history. OK, CF. I gave your rant due attention and thought about it, as maybe you have a good point. And I thought I would pay homage by replying with a very long post.  This may deserve its own thread, but this type of thing seems to come up every now and then, especially with the fairly recent concept of 'the only thing that matters is winning'. And many fans of various sports/leagues have bought it. That mentality may have some credence in professional leagues (but even then no one can explain why fans go to watch a Rams game or a Pelicans game - they will not win a title this year). College sports (and all amateur sports) are inherently different though, even though winning must be the goal. But how you win or lose matters a lot too. 'Just win' mentality is why we have parents of 3rd graders forming all-star basketball teams and getting in fights in the stands. But USD fans are not that type of fan. I, for one, and very happy about that. - Coach Glenn didn't win a bunch of games, but he brought the program back from the brink of collapse, and did it with total class. We love that. (His predecessor won, but didn't run a class program. He was fired.) - We chuckle when SDSU fans call us 'little brother', and talk about how we want what they have. I get it - SDSU fans want what NDSU has, and thus assume we want what SDSU has. They don't get that we really don't want what they have going. Good for them - it appears that they are accomplishing what their goal (as far as I can tell anyway). But our culture is fundamentally different, and we have different goals. Current status of tailgating is a good example - they are different, and we would certainly pick ours over theirs. - Which leads to the note above about fan boards. The people/fanbases that go on a 10 page rant after losses are obnoxious jack@$$es. They are self-important, immature people whose lives rise and fall based on their college sports team's most recent game. Think about that for a while. This fanboard doesn't have much patience for trolls - and even admonishes its own fans when they troll on other boards - but many fanboards/posters take great pride in trolling. Again, that is not our culture. (Also, don't forget a tiny fraction of Coyote fans even know this board exists) - The 'Just win' mentality has caused that type of fan behavior to go from labeled as 'abhorrent' to be mislabeled as 'passionate'. You may be a real foodie, but if you yell and scream at the waiter because your veggies are cold, that makes you a grade A @$$, not a 'passionate foodie'. I don't pretend to speak for all Coyote fans, of course. And it is very difficult to describe any culture, but you know it when you are there. From the outside it may look aloof or like no one cares. But in reality we just don't care about what it looks like from the outside. |
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