Linus
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Post by Linus on Dec 19, 2019 14:13:11 GMT -6
I understand easmus' point, but I have the opposite opinion. We need wins now, and an upperclassman QB gives us the best chance at that. With today's CFB landscape, having two system-knowledgeable upper class QBS should not be taken for granted. Tsagalis has been patiently waiting for his chance behind two great players, but Moore might be too dynamic to keep of the field if he has retained the athleticism that made him a high profile recruit. Agreed, and giving the reigns to a freshman QB kills recruiting for that position for the next several years. What talented and competitive QB wants to sign on with a program where he will guaranteed be sitting for 3+ years? The best scenario is to have the QB position turn over every two years. Keeps an experienced upperclassman at the helm, gives underclassman 3 years to learn and develop, and keeps recruiting fresh as the roster cycles over. SDSU started a redshirt freshman and when he got hurt started a true freshman - top 16 team in the country UNI started a redshirt freshman - top 8 team in the country NDSU starts a redshirt freshman - Jerry Rice award winner for top freshman in the country. I would prefer to play the best at the QB position rather than give the starting job to a player that has “waited his turn.” |
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Post by Yote 53 on Dec 19, 2019 14:36:06 GMT -6
I don't think we're advocating naming a starting QB based on who put their time in. My thought is you play the best but ideally you have the recruiting and roster turnover set up so that you are turning over your starting QB every two years with a player who has been in the system for 2-3 already. That's best case scenario.
If you're bringing in a freshman QB who is better than your JRs and SRs that means you probably missed on those upperclassmen, didn't develop them properly, or are in a feast famine cycle of recruiting of bringing in a stud QB every 3-4 years with not much talent in the other years. I'm advocating consistently recruiting the position at a high level year over year and turning the machine over cycle after cycle.
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Post by elcoyote on Dec 19, 2019 14:54:34 GMT -6
Bottom line: the best player plays...end of story.
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Post by easmus on Dec 19, 2019 20:02:01 GMT -6
Might’ve stumbled onto something for a new thread. 2020 QB?
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Post by captaincoyote on Dec 19, 2019 20:20:57 GMT -6
I should have been more clear. I just don't want to automatically assume that it's best for the program in the long-term to start a freshman. Often their most important developmental reps are mental ones from the sideline. I also don't think we brought in Moore for depth. He will have every opportunity to play.
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Post by gopheryote on Dec 20, 2019 6:23:34 GMT -6
Might’ve stumbled onto something for a new thread. 2020 QB? Don't we already have a 'Seager over Streveler' thread we can just bump? And maybe even a 'Simmons over Streveler' one?  |
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Post by yotesx2 on Dec 20, 2019 12:19:17 GMT -6
Play the best players in each position, period. It shouldn't matter what age they are or if they're on scholarship, or not. If kids are progressing, pushing to get better and are producing on a daily basis, then the playing time will take care of itself. Do not take anything for granted. Make each rep count. At the same time... the cream of the crop always rises to the top (including character and attitude), and those are the kids that should be on the field representing the Yotes. Every position matters, Every play matters, every player matters and they need to "buy in" to their role and do their job on a consistent basis within the scheme of the team. Every phase matters... yes, even the special teams... especially the special teams (game changer). If discipline and apathy come into play, then the guys need to be held accountable toward representing this team the right way. Be a class act and kick a$$. No need to show boat. At this level, coaches (and fans) expect players to do their job on every play. Kick your opponents a$$, help them up and then kick their a$$ again. Go Yotes!
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Post by usdtator on Dec 20, 2019 12:51:41 GMT -6
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Post by yotefan90 on Jan 2, 2020 20:58:19 GMT -6
1. QB CARSON CAMP 6'3" 205 LBS - NORMAL WEST HS - NORMAL, IL HUDL TWITTER 247 2. LB ZANDER FLUCAS 6'3" 225 LBS - MAYER LUTHERAN HS - MAYER, MN TWITTER YOUTUBE 3. DB ELIJAH OFORI 5'11" 180 LBS - SHAKOPEE HS - SHAKOPEE, MN TWITTER HUDL4. OL KEL STROUD 6'5" 275 LBS - CHAPMAN HS - CHAPMAN, KS TWITTER HUDL 5. DB LATREZ SHELTON 6'1" 170 LBS - CARDINAL RITTER PREP - ST LOUIS, MO TWITTER 247 HUDL RIVALS7. LB CADE PARKER 5'11" 205 LBS - KENNEDY HS - CEDAR RAPIDS, IA HUDL TWITTER 8. DL TIM GLASER 6'3" 245 LBS - ROCKHURST HS - KANSAS CITY, MO HUDL TWITTER 9. OL CODY FAYETTE 6'6" 290 LBS - MAIZE SOUTH HS - WICHITA, KS HUDL TWITTER 10. ATH TEVEN MCKELVEY 6'1" 180 LBS - GARDNER/EDGERTON HS - GARDNER, KS HUDL 247 TWITTER 11. S CALEB SMITH 5'10" 210 LBS -DAVISON HS - DAVISON, MI HUDL TWITTER 12. OL BEN KOHLS 6'3" 275 LBS - ROOSEVELT HS - SIOUX FALLS, SD HUDL TWITTER 13. WR JJ GALBREATH 6'3" 195 LBS - RALSTON VALLEY HS - ARVADA, CO HUDL TWITTER 14. LB VINCENT STARLING 6'2" 195 LBS - PALM BEACH LAKES HS - WEST PALM BEACH, FL 247 RIVALS TWITTER HUDL ESPN15. S JAILEN HOLMAN 6' 195 LBS - PALM BEACH LAKES HS - WEST PALM BEACH, FL TWITTER 247 HUDL
16. RB NATHAN LUBINSKY 5'10" 200 LBS - ONALASKA HS - ONALASKA, WI (PWO) TWITTER HUDL 17. TE NATHAN GOEHRING 6'5" 210 LBS - KIEL HS - KIEL, WI (PWO) HUDL TWITTER 18. RB/OLB CLAYTON DENKER 6' 175 LBS - DAVID CITY HS - DAVID CITY, NE TWITTER HUDL 19. OT PAXTON SWANSON 6'5" 265 LBS - PLATTEVIEW HS - SPRING FIELD, NE HUDL TWITTER 20. S CHASE LOPEZ 5'11" 190 LBS - POMONA HS - ARVADA, CO HUDL TWITTER 21. OT AARON KURTH 6'7" 285 LBS - COLBY HS - COLBY, KS HUDL TWITTER 24722. TE/DE BEN SINNOTT 6'3" 220 LBS - COLUMBUS CATHOLIC HS - WATERLOO, IA HUDL TWITTER23. DE WILL DUNN 6'4" 250 LBS - HERITAGE HALL HS - OKLAHOMA CITY, OK TWITTER HUDL 24724. RB MICHAEL MANSARAY 5'10" 190 LBS - WESTERVILLE SOUTH HS - WESTERVILLE, OH TWITTER HUDL 25. TE/DE JOSHUA CROWNOVER 6'4" 200 LBS - BON HOMME HS - TYNDALL, SD HUDL TWITTER DECOMMITS 6. OL JOE LILIENTHAL 6'7" 320 LBS - DURANT HS - DURANT, IA TWITTER HUDL 9. WR TYSEN KERSHAW 6'3" 185 LBS - FORT DODGE HS - FORT DODGE, IA 11. S JAKE MARTIN 6'2" 190 LBS - LEWIS-PALMER HS - MONUMENT, CO From coyotecrazie5's list -- Red signifies they have not signed yet. Apparently the Yotes are still an option for Sinnott. |
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Post by usdtator on Jan 3, 2020 8:47:04 GMT -6
1. QB CARSON CAMP 6'3" 205 LBS - NORMAL WEST HS - NORMAL, IL HUDL TWITTER 247 2. LB ZANDER FLUCAS 6'3" 225 LBS - MAYER LUTHERAN HS - MAYER, MN TWITTER YOUTUBE 3. DB ELIJAH OFORI 5'11" 180 LBS - SHAKOPEE HS - SHAKOPEE, MN TWITTER HUDL4. OL KEL STROUD 6'5" 275 LBS - CHAPMAN HS - CHAPMAN, KS TWITTER HUDL 5. DB LATREZ SHELTON 6'1" 170 LBS - CARDINAL RITTER PREP - ST LOUIS, MO TWITTER 247 HUDL RIVALS7. LB CADE PARKER 5'11" 205 LBS - KENNEDY HS - CEDAR RAPIDS, IA HUDL TWITTER 8. DL TIM GLASER 6'3" 245 LBS - ROCKHURST HS - KANSAS CITY, MO HUDL TWITTER 9. OL CODY FAYETTE 6'6" 290 LBS - MAIZE SOUTH HS - WICHITA, KS HUDL TWITTER 10. ATH TEVEN MCKELVEY 6'1" 180 LBS - GARDNER/EDGERTON HS - GARDNER, KS HUDL 247 TWITTER 11. S CALEB SMITH 5'10" 210 LBS -DAVISON HS - DAVISON, MI HUDL TWITTER 12. OL BEN KOHLS 6'3" 275 LBS - ROOSEVELT HS - SIOUX FALLS, SD HUDL TWITTER 13. WR JJ GALBREATH 6'3" 195 LBS - RALSTON VALLEY HS - ARVADA, CO HUDL TWITTER 14. LB VINCENT STARLING 6'2" 195 LBS - PALM BEACH LAKES HS - WEST PALM BEACH, FL 247 RIVALS TWITTER HUDL ESPN15. S JAILEN HOLMAN 6' 195 LBS - PALM BEACH LAKES HS - WEST PALM BEACH, FL TWITTER 247 HUDL
16. RB NATHAN LUBINSKY 5'10" 200 LBS - ONALASKA HS - ONALASKA, WI (PWO) TWITTER HUDL 17. TE NATHAN GOEHRING 6'5" 210 LBS - KIEL HS - KIEL, WI (PWO) HUDL TWITTER 18. RB/OLB CLAYTON DENKER 6' 175 LBS - DAVID CITY HS - DAVID CITY, NE TWITTER HUDL 19. OT PAXTON SWANSON 6'5" 265 LBS - PLATTEVIEW HS - SPRING FIELD, NE HUDL TWITTER 20. S CHASE LOPEZ 5'11" 190 LBS - POMONA HS - ARVADA, CO HUDL TWITTER 21. OT AARON KURTH 6'7" 285 LBS - COLBY HS - COLBY, KS HUDL TWITTER 24722. TE/DE BEN SINNOTT 6'3" 220 LBS - COLUMBUS CATHOLIC HS - WATERLOO, IA HUDL TWITTER23. DE WILL DUNN 6'4" 250 LBS - HERITAGE HALL HS - OKLAHOMA CITY, OK TWITTER HUDL 24724. RB MICHAEL MANSARAY 5'10" 190 LBS - WESTERVILLE SOUTH HS - WESTERVILLE, OH TWITTER HUDL 25. TE/DE JOSHUA CROWNOVER 6'4" 200 LBS - BON HOMME HS - TYNDALL, SD HUDL TWITTER DECOMMITS 6. OL JOE LILIENTHAL 6'7" 320 LBS - DURANT HS - DURANT, IA TWITTER HUDL 9. WR TYSEN KERSHAW 6'3" 185 LBS - FORT DODGE HS - FORT DODGE, IA 11. S JAKE MARTIN 6'2" 190 LBS - LEWIS-PALMER HS - MONUMENT, CO From coyotecrazie5's list -- Red signifies they have not signed yet. Apparently the Yotes are still an option for Sinnott. I'm hearing we will likely not get him to sign with us. |
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Post by Yote 53 on Jan 3, 2020 10:56:35 GMT -6
Iowa is stocked at TE with 5 returning TEs, 2 TEs already signed NLI and just received a commit from a PWO out of Illinois, so that position group is pretty crowded. He's a bit undersized to play TE at Iowa considering Kittle, Hockenson, and Fant were all over 6-4 as is every TE on the current roster, graduating TEs, and incoming TE recruits. At 6 ft 3 in 220 lbs it would not surprise me if Iowa would look to convert him to a guard if he took a PWO there. Kid's got a good frame and can obviously move. Put about 90 lbs of muscle on him over the next couple of years and might have the makings of a good guard. Defensive tackle might be another possibility as well given his size and frame. TE is just going to be tough to crack at the P5 level if you're under 6-4. Every TE on both Iowa's and KSU's roster is 6-4 or taller. They like big targets at that position.
If he's got his heart set on playing TE then USD would be his best opportunity to get on the field and I'm sure we'd love to have him. Classic case of a highly talented player who is just a tad undersized for P5 that would excel and be a standout at the FCS.
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Post by coyotecrazie5 on Jan 8, 2020 17:39:53 GMT -6
JAKE CHEESEMAN
WR
6'2" 170 LBS
McCook Central/Montrose High School
Montrose, SD
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Post by easmus on Jan 9, 2020 21:43:51 GMT -6
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Post by coyote70 on Jan 10, 2020 20:45:44 GMT -6
I live in the Rapid City area and think this guy has great potential. Good luck and welcome to the pack!
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Post by usdtator on Jan 10, 2020 21:53:05 GMT -6
6'4 235lb transfer from Gophers.
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