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Post by kiyoat on Jan 1, 2020 12:20:25 GMT -6
WAKE UP, go take some ibuprofen, take a shower, and check out this game in Indy! Maybe should have sent this message to the team? Wow. Not gonna win many games shooting under 40%, with 27 points in first half. Wake up, indeed. On the bright side, it's nice to be able to stream the game on YouTube |
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Post by coyoteglory on Jan 1, 2020 13:34:07 GMT -6
Neither side of the ball looked great today. On the bright side, we had lots of good shots that normally go in that didn't. On the down side, that passing stat that someone put up a while ago is something I think was probably the best point made all year, and now I can't watch our team without thinking about it (thanks kiyoat). We don't move the ball very well and because of that, we take a lot of forced shots. I realize Duffy plays a lot of point guard and so will maybe have more assists than others, but the fact that our two primary guards (McKeever and Lamb) play about 70 minutes a game between them and consistently can generate only about 2-4 assists combined per game is problematic. Both are obviously great shooters, but I think if we had a little more movement it might help. Though I'll defer to those on this board that know more than I do to shine some more informed light on this point.
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Post by Men's League Waterboy on Jan 1, 2020 15:39:36 GMT -6
You've got two guards who came up in small schools and combined to score over 5,000 career points in those two. That's just who they are. They're always going to be looking to put the ball on the floor or take a shot first, you'd have to figure out a way to reprogram their DNA at this point to change that.
You've got to come to grips with the fact that they're both unafraid to take big shots (which is great) but they're also never really going to be highly efficient playmakers for others. They just don't see the floor well enough and it's not how they learned to play.
Just the way it is.
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Post by gopheryote on Jan 1, 2020 16:59:22 GMT -6
You've got two guards who came up in small schools and combined to score over 5,000 career points in those two. That's just who they are. They're always going to be looking to put the ball on the floor or take a shot first, you'd have to figure out a way to reprogram their DNA at this point to change that. You've got to come to grips with the fact that they're both unafraid to take big shots (which is great) but they're also never really going to be highly efficient playmakers for others. They just don't see the floor well enough and it's not how they learned to play. Just the way it is. Can't they all just be Nicole Seekamp? Seems like it would solve a lot of problems. |
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Post by Men's League Waterboy on Jan 1, 2020 17:03:06 GMT -6
You've got two guards who came up in small schools and combined to score over 5,000 career points in those two. That's just who they are. They're always going to be looking to put the ball on the floor or take a shot first, you'd have to figure out a way to reprogram their DNA at this point to change that. You've got to come to grips with the fact that they're both unafraid to take big shots (which is great) but they're also never really going to be highly efficient playmakers for others. They just don't see the floor well enough and it's not how they learned to play. Just the way it is. Can't they all just be Nicole Seekamp? Seems like it would solve a lot of problems. Lol. I think that's a big part of it, to be honest. She was so gifted in terms of seeing the floor that she set a bit of an unrealistic standard for fans that saw her and what they want to see out of those who have come after her. |
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Post by Men's League Waterboy on Jan 1, 2020 17:12:10 GMT -6
Not to mention that she also played with a bunch of other highly intelligent, experienced players in Trimboli, elder Duffy, Hemiller, eldest Arens, Stewart, McCloud, etc., whose skills all meshed together very well. They played a bit like a bunch of Euros. This team plays a little more American.
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Post by gopheryote on Jan 1, 2020 17:16:47 GMT -6
Can't they all just be Nicole Seekamp? Seems like it would solve a lot of problems. Lol. I think that's a big part of it, to be honest. She was so gifted in terms of seeing the floor that she set a bit of an unrealistic standard for fans that saw her and what they want to see out of those who have come after her. Completely agree. |
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Post by coyoteglory on Jan 1, 2020 20:35:39 GMT -6
You've got two guards who came up in small schools and combined to score over 5,000 career points in those two. That's just who they are. They're always going to be looking to put the ball on the floor or take a shot first, you'd have to figure out a way to reprogram their DNA at this point to change that. You've got to come to grips with the fact that they're both unafraid to take big shots (which is great) but they're also never really going to be highly efficient playmakers for others. They just don't see the floor well enough and it's not how they learned to play. Just the way it is. City league, do you see another person besides Duffy that could fill that role? Maybe Kunzer? |
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Post by Men's League Waterboy on Jan 1, 2020 21:07:18 GMT -6
Not really, no. Kunzer's got eight assists this season and she's just not enough of an offensive threat to be that player for you right now. Duffy's your Doncic/LeBron this season for better or worse. She's going to create most of the open looks for other players.
Next year, they'll start Lamb, Arens and Sjerven for sure, and then I'd guess Korngable and Hempe. Lamb, Korngable and Kunzer will have to step up their facilitation a bit ... but I wouldn't be all that surprised to see Hempe end up being the team's main facilitator even as soon as next season.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Jan 2, 2020 4:36:50 GMT -6
after the stacked non conference schedule it is gonna be hard to get up for every Summit game. two blowout road wins. Take it and move on. Love this team.
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Post by yotefan90 on Jan 2, 2020 7:56:08 GMT -6
Not really, no. Kunzer's got eight assists this season and she's just not enough of an offensive threat to be that player for you right now. Duffy's your Doncic/LeBron this season for better or worse. She's going to create most of the open looks for other players. Next year, they'll start Lamb, Arens and Sjerven for sure, and then I'd guess Korngable and Hempe. Lamb, Korngable and Kunzer will have to step up their facilitation a bit ... but I wouldn't be all that surprised to see Hempe end up being the team's main facilitator even as soon as next season. I will be surprised if the freshman Maddie Krull isn't starting next year. Excellent defender and a pass-first scorer. |
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Post by elcoyote on Jan 2, 2020 12:41:54 GMT -6
Not really, no. Kunzer's got eight assists this season and she's just not enough of an offensive threat to be that player for you right now. Duffy's your Doncic/LeBron this season for better or worse. She's going to create most of the open looks for other players. Next year, they'll start Lamb, Arens and Sjerven for sure, and then I'd guess Korngable and Hempe. Lamb, Korngable and Kunzer will have to step up their facilitation a bit ... but I wouldn't be all that surprised to see Hempe end up being the team's main facilitator even as soon as next season. I will be surprised if the freshman Maddie Krull isn't starting next year. Excellent defender and a pass-first scorer. I agree with your Krull promo whole heartedly. She is a dynamic, true point guard. |
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Post by coyoteglory on Jan 2, 2020 13:51:32 GMT -6
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Post by Men's League Waterboy on Jan 2, 2020 14:23:56 GMT -6
Not really, no. Kunzer's got eight assists this season and she's just not enough of an offensive threat to be that player for you right now. Duffy's your Doncic/LeBron this season for better or worse. She's going to create most of the open looks for other players. Next year, they'll start Lamb, Arens and Sjerven for sure, and then I'd guess Korngable and Hempe. Lamb, Korngable and Kunzer will have to step up their facilitation a bit ... but I wouldn't be all that surprised to see Hempe end up being the team's main facilitator even as soon as next season. I will be surprised if the freshman Maddie Krull isn't starting next year. Excellent defender and a pass-first scorer. [ I wouldn’t know her if she walked into my living room so I don’t have the foggiest idea, but if she’s starting next year she’ll have leapfrogged a whole bunch of kids with actual college experience. I’m not saying it won’t happen but she’s going to have to be really special at 5-9 to immediately take one of the spots being vacated from the starting lineup over the kids already in the program. |
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Post by kiyoat on Jan 2, 2020 14:47:31 GMT -6
I couldn't answer that with full certainty, but she definitely is not the first USD recruit to have rejected Power-5 offers to play for the Yotes. Nicole Seekamp was recruited by Virginia Tech and Syracuse, (among others)out of Australia, but chose the Yotes due to persistent recruiting. Ciara Duffy held P-5 offers, Including Wake Forest. She could have had more offers, (including Colorado) but she cut her recruiting short for the chance to play with her sister at USD. Not sure if she was ever ranked, though. Both Caitlin Duffy and Hannah Sjerven played for Mountain West teams before transferring to USD. Hannah held an ESPN ranking of #131 in the country and the #23 post player out of high school. A little lower than Krull, but in the same ballpark. Mandy Koupal had gotten interest (Wagner HS 1999) from Iowa State and Nebraska, but chose D-2 so she could play for championships.
Amber Hegge was a 3-sport athlete (Crofton HS 2008), and had been recruited by Kansas as a Volleyball player. She liked Track and Basketball better, though. I think some of those could have had a higher ranking, if that system existed at that time, or if small-town kids got the same exposure back then, but Krull may very well be the highest-ranked USD WBB recruit in the ESPNW ranking era. |
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