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Post by yoteforever on Apr 17, 2021 9:12:35 GMT -6
I’m a huge believer in the TEAM concept and not individuals. I’ve never talked to Kai or been around him, but I never felt he was a TEAM guy but rather an I guy. Maybe that’s unfair and if so I’ll apologize now but that’s how I see it. That crap drives me crazy but I’m old and old school is out.
More importantly in my opinion is inability to graduate. He was on target to get a degree in December. I hate that he’s squandering this opportunity. IF someone out there takes him, two things are almost inevitable. First is not all his credits here will transfer. Secondly, my bet would be any scholarship he would get would be cut after the season. Honestly, for a young man that’s been here as long as he has, it’s sad to think he won’t graduate.
In closing, his stats are not flashy. It’s not all his fault, you need good line play to run the ball effectively and that’s not the case right now, but the bottom line is his numbers are mediocre at best. I sincerely doubt he’ll go up....highly unlikely he’ll go to another FCS, so the best he can hope for is a scholarship at a D2 school. He really hadn’t thought this out and if he has, then I think he’s got bad judgement. I do wish him well but won’t be checking up on him either.
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Post by captaincoyote on Apr 17, 2021 22:00:21 GMT -6
Another FCS school will surely take him. He is very explosive when given a hole to run through.
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Post by sportschic on Apr 18, 2021 7:12:10 GMT -6
With COVID impacting the NCAA rules and regs you have players that would have used up their eligibility are still on teams with 1 to years left of eligibility. Teams are stocked up with players so the transfer portal has a record breaking numbers of eligible players. COVID set recruiting needs back and so it is not easy to get on with a team at the FBS level and or the FCS level. They don’t need to use the portal, their team numbers are maxed out.
I do think Kai will get a shot at the FCS level but he will have to grab whoever shows the most interest and offers a full scholarship as soon as the opportunity arises.
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Post by Yote 53 on Apr 18, 2021 8:40:14 GMT -6
That right there is why jumping into the portal is a bad idea unless you are a sure thing like Umude.
The NCAA was so stupid to grant another year of eligibility and have this transfer portal. What a mess this is. Could you imagine being the class of 2021 right now and seeing how many teams have limited roster spots due to all the players returning? That is going to carry over into the class of 22 & 23 as well.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Apr 19, 2021 2:17:06 GMT -6
Ok I am not here to suggest anything as far as anything. I will keep that opinion to myself for the time being but I am surprised no one has mentioned the status of Bob Nielson. There has been a pretty big uproar this shortened season regarding the Coyotes and their subpar play. Many frustrated fans. I am assuming by now if anything was going to happen that we would have heard. I am guessing that pretty much everyone gets a pass on this season but should that be the case? I would think it is pretty close to ultimatum time going into next season.
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Post by captaincoyote on Apr 19, 2021 4:53:37 GMT -6
Ok I am not here to suggest anything as far as anything. I will keep that opinion to myself for the time being but I am surprised no one has mentioned the status of Bob Nielson. There has been a pretty big uproar this shortened season regarding the Coyotes and their subpar play. Many frustrated fans. I am assuming by now if anything was going to happen that we would have heard. I am guessing that pretty much everyone gets a pass on this season but should that be the case? I would think it is pretty close to ultimatum time going into next season. The Missouri State game thread is a very interesting conversation, if you haven't read it yet. |
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Post by fightsd on Apr 19, 2021 7:28:11 GMT -6
I’m a huge believer in the TEAM concept and not individuals. I’ve never talked to Kai or been around him, but I never felt he was a TEAM guy but rather an I guy. Maybe that’s unfair and if so I’ll apologize now but that’s how I see it. That crap drives me crazy but I’m old and old school is out. More importantly in my opinion is inability to graduate. He was on target to get a degree in December. I hate that he’s squandering this opportunity. IF someone out there takes him, two things are almost inevitable. First is not all his credits here will transfer. Secondly, my bet would be any scholarship he would get would be cut after the season. Honestly, for a young man that’s been here as long as he has, it’s sad to think he won’t graduate. In closing, his stats are not flashy. It’s not all his fault, you need good line play to run the ball effectively and that’s not the case right now, but the bottom line is his numbers are mediocre at best. I sincerely doubt he’ll go up....highly unlikely he’ll go to another FCS, so the best he can hope for is a scholarship at a D2 school. He really hadn’t thought this out and if he has, then I think he’s got bad judgement. I do wish him well but won’t be checking up on him either. This seems like an unfair assessment IMO. He's a cocky running back with a big personality that likes to run his mouth. Doesn't really mean he's not a team guy. When he first got to campus, he had a few unsportsmanlike penalties, I get that. There are a bunch of posters on this board that like to talk about "guys just need to play with more fire" - well, there's your guy playing fired up. Just took it too far once in a while. As for his decision to transfer, I don't like it. I also kind of get it. He's an explosive guy with a lot of talent. Realistically, probably not the kind of talent that get's you a roster spot on Sundays, but who knows. If he has aspirations to play at the next level, he will need some gaudy numbers this season to even be a blip on anybody's radar. After going through this spring season, I'm sure he realized that's not happening behind the current OL. The run game this spring wasn't just pathetic, it was embarrassing. All that being said, my stance on entering the portal, for any sport, hasn't changed. I hope he finds what he's looking for somewhere, but good riddance. You abandon the team, I have no interest or obligation to follow your career or cheer for your new team. |
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Post by yoteforever on Apr 19, 2021 7:41:43 GMT -6
I’m a huge believer in the TEAM concept and not individuals. I’ve never talked to Kai or been around him, but I never felt he was a TEAM guy but rather an I guy. Maybe that’s unfair and if so I’ll apologize now but that’s how I see it. That crap drives me crazy but I’m old and old school is out. More importantly in my opinion is inability to graduate. He was on target to get a degree in December. I hate that he’s squandering this opportunity. IF someone out there takes him, two things are almost inevitable. First is not all his credits here will transfer. Secondly, my bet would be any scholarship he would get would be cut after the season. Honestly, for a young man that’s been here as long as he has, it’s sad to think he won’t graduate. In closing, his stats are not flashy. It’s not all his fault, you need good line play to run the ball effectively and that’s not the case right now, but the bottom line is his numbers are mediocre at best. I sincerely doubt he’ll go up....highly unlikely he’ll go to another FCS, so the best he can hope for is a scholarship at a D2 school. He really hadn’t thought this out and if he has, then I think he’s got bad judgement. I do wish him well but won’t be checking up on him either. This seems like an unfair assessment IMO. He's a cocky running back with a big personality that likes to run his mouth. Doesn't really mean he's not a team guy. When he first got to campus, he had a few unsportsmanlike penalties, I get that. There are a bunch of posters on this board that like to talk about "guys just need to play with more fire" - well, there's your guy playing fired up. Just took it too far once in a while. As for his decision to transfer, I don't like it. I also kind of get it. He's an explosive guy with a lot of talent. Realistically, probably not the kind of talent that get's you a roster spot on Sundays, but who knows. If he has aspirations to play at the next level, he will need some gaudy numbers this season to even be a blip on anybody's radar. After going through this spring season, I'm sure he realized that's not happening behind the current OL. The run game this spring wasn't just pathetic, it was embarrassing. All that being said, my stance on entering the portal, for any sport, hasn't changed. I hope he finds what he's looking for somewhere, but good riddance. You abandon the team, I have no interest or obligation to follow your career or cheer for your new team. You might be correct and that’s why I said if I’m wrong I’ll apologize up front. To me the question is being fired up in a team way or show off way? If his teammates are ok with the antics I’m good with it, then you’re correct. However I never saw him patting helmets of O lineman when he scored or did big things. Again, I might be wrong. No question he had energy, the question is whether or not he exuberated that energy to lift the team or draw attention to himself. More importantly for me is the educational piece. It’s highly unlikely Sunday football is in his future. Hope I’m wrong but I do have a little cash I’d wager. A young man like Kai I would think needs a college degree to lbetter his life but maybe I’m wrong there as well. It sickens me IF this portal move prohibits him from getting a degree. |
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Post by fightsd on Apr 19, 2021 7:55:12 GMT -6
Ok I am not here to suggest anything as far as anything. I will keep that opinion to myself for the time being but I am surprised no one has mentioned the status of Bob Nielson. There has been a pretty big uproar this shortened season regarding the Coyotes and their subpar play. Many frustrated fans. I am assuming by now if anything was going to happen that we would have heard. I am guessing that pretty much everyone gets a pass on this season but should that be the case? I would think it is pretty close to ultimatum time going into next season. First of all, you are here to suggest something. Anybody that's been on this board for the past decade or so knows your MO lol It's been discussed in other threads, but I'm not at all surprised there haven't been any changes made to this point. Like you mentioned, people are probably getting passes for this charade of a "season". I was excited and optimistic about it coming in, but it was pretty clear right away, this whole spring was a joke. There are a couple bigger reasons why there haven't been any serious conversations about coaching changes (at least that we've heard about), in my opinion. The first is the obvious one - we have a multi-year contract with Bob. I don't know the details of the contract, but I believe he still has a few seasons. Would the university and the boosters be able to buy him out of that contract? Would they even try? I don't know what the process was like, but if I recall it was a big undertaking getting the BOR to approve multi-year contracts. Don't know how wise it would be to get rid of the person they changed the rule for. The other reason - who would we get? It's a weird time of year to try and hire a coach. There's not many coaches looking to move in April. A coach that's serious about winning wouldn't want to jump in to a program without a spring ball to install his own systems. Even if we did bring in a new HC, he would have a hard time filling his staff at this time of the year. Coaching decisions are made in November/December when you have 9 months to prepare for opening day. But it is fair to have these discussions at this point. I'm willing to give Bob this season, mostly for the reasons above, to prove that things are headed in the right direction. |
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Post by bobo on Apr 19, 2021 19:15:59 GMT -6
Two things:
1. Kai Henry transferring will not affect the team and in the end probably rids the team of an athlete that didn’t work very hard, took advantage of being a top guy by cutting corners, and ultimately was a detriment to what USD is trying turn around in terms of culture. No, I’m not there, but I hear what I hear from those inside the locker room. Sometimes addition by subtraction is needed. Word on the street is that Travis Theis is the exact opposite and the type of guy the OL will want to block for in the end.
2. Last time I looked, USD lost 2 games to playoff teams with one of those by 3 points (and had multiple opportunities to win it) and the other to one of the best teams in the country. The only horrible game was the Youngstown game, on the road in a tough venue and after a very tough home loss. No excuses, but it happened. As I’ve said before, we ain’t that far off with some refining and recruiting and if all goes as planned, the Camp kid will be a really good one which gives us a chance to be very good. If you have an excellent QB it doesn’t guarantee anything, but I’ll guarantee you won’t win without one.
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Post by Yotes on Apr 19, 2021 19:44:16 GMT -6
I generally am not the type to speak ill of players, but Kai can test the waters. He has talent but watching him play frequently left me angry as poor plays led to confronting the opponent and good plays were his opportunity to make a fool out of himself. He didn't run for many yards though, so the former is what we usually saw.
Composure is important. Both when you fail and when you succeed.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Apr 19, 2021 21:51:52 GMT -6
I don't know if Henry really improved that much from his first year. It is really hard to judge him based on the poor line play but I saw him as too much of an east/west runner rather than north/south. I will admit that I have watched much less football the last couple of seasons than in the past so I could be wrong there. Henry was a good to middling back but maybe a bit over rated. I guess I am spoiled from watching Jamel White, Dusty Stamer and Stefan Logan in years past but it seems like the backs in the D2 days were actually better than what we have today.
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Post by easmus on Apr 20, 2021 9:50:57 GMT -6
Bob just finished year 2 of a 5 year deal. If he has a poor fall of 2021, I do wonder what Herbster would do with the position.
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Post by hello1 on Apr 20, 2021 11:41:33 GMT -6
Two things: 1. Kai Henry transferring will not affect the team and in the end probably rids the team of an athlete that didn’t work very hard, took advantage of being a top guy by cutting corners, and ultimately was a detriment to what USD is trying turn around in terms of culture. No, I’m not there, but I hear what I hear from those inside the locker room. Sometimes addition by subtraction is needed. Word on the street is that Travis Theis is the exact opposite and the type of guy the OL will want to block for in the end. 2. Last time I looked, USD lost 2 games to playoff teams with one of those by 3 points (and had multiple opportunities to win it) and the other to one of the best teams in the country. The only horrible game was the Youngstown game, on the road in a tough venue and after a very tough home loss. No excuses, but it happened. As I’ve said before, we ain’t that far off with some refining and recruiting and if all goes as planned, the Camp kid will be a really good one which gives us a chance to be very good. If you have an excellent QB it doesn’t guarantee anything, but I’ll guarantee you won’t win without one. WOW way to call out a kid. No one here is going to give him crap for that? Well maybe the board is evolving. No matter what you think you know or don't know he was the best running back on the team period. This will hurt. We have 10 returning starters back so we can plug anyone in and do just fine. Where have I heard that before? It's funny how if someone leaves they are no good but if they stay and someone says they are no good then everyone gets their shorts in a bunch. This team is going to need many years before they become a contender for anything. This will only happen when a new coaching staff comes in and cleans house. By the way whatever locker room talk you know about I am sure whoever told you didn't expect you to talk crap about it on the board. |
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Post by fightsd on Apr 20, 2021 14:36:01 GMT -6
Two things: 1. Kai Henry transferring will not affect the team and in the end probably rids the team of an athlete that didn’t work very hard, took advantage of being a top guy by cutting corners, and ultimately was a detriment to what USD is trying turn around in terms of culture. No, I’m not there, but I hear what I hear from those inside the locker room. Sometimes addition by subtraction is needed. Word on the street is that Travis Theis is the exact opposite and the type of guy the OL will want to block for in the end. 2. Last time I looked, USD lost 2 games to playoff teams with one of those by 3 points (and had multiple opportunities to win it) and the other to one of the best teams in the country. The only horrible game was the Youngstown game, on the road in a tough venue and after a very tough home loss. No excuses, but it happened. As I’ve said before, we ain’t that far off with some refining and recruiting and if all goes as planned, the Camp kid will be a really good one which gives us a chance to be very good. If you have an excellent QB it doesn’t guarantee anything, but I’ll guarantee you won’t win without one. WOW way to call out a kid. No one here is going to give him crap for that? Well maybe the board is evolving. No matter what you think you know or don't know he was the best running back on the team period. This will hurt. We have 10 returning starters back so we can plug anyone in and do just fine. Where have I heard that before? It's funny how if someone leaves they are no good but if they stay and someone says they are no good then everyone gets their shorts in a bunch. This team is going to need many years before they become a contender for anything. This will only happen when a new coaching staff comes in and cleans house. By the way whatever locker room talk you know about I am sure whoever told you didn't expect you to talk crap about it on the board. Oof. This guy again.  I do agree that Henry was the best running back on the team and it is a significant loss to the running backs room. The rest of your post is kind of pointless. |
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