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Post by jackedforlife on Nov 10, 2021 18:13:14 GMT -6
Understandable, that’s why I lead initially stating front 7.
Definitely a strength for both teams is the respective run game. As is rush defense. Pass D for the Jacks hasn’t been horrid but still is suspect. Whether it’s a failure to turn and locate a deep ball or a blown coverage assignment and a guy releases deep.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 10, 2021 23:05:55 GMT -6
I have always felt that the Jacks have been a good road team for quite a few years and also a fairly good dome team. They have won a couple of recent games in Fargo. They have pretty good success at UNI as well and I think they have faired as well on the road vs many valley opponents as they have at home. That is the sign of a good team.
So far this year the Coyotes have played pretty well on the road. How a team does on the road is how I generally judge a team.
It should be a good game. I hope the Coyotes have a bit of fortune on their side. The Yotes are good this year but I think a little luck wouldn't hurt as well on Saturday. The Jacks have deserved their respect and should have swagger and belief that they will win. I think the Coyotes can maybe be a bit more hungry and a bit more desperate. The Jacks are just playing for a seed but the Yotes are playing for their season.
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Post by yoteforever on Nov 10, 2021 23:36:32 GMT -6
The Jacks are playing for the playoffs, no different than us. If they lose they would have 3 losses in the league and would have to beat North Dakota next week to get in. Don’t buy into their BS. Are they good? Yes. Are they this infallible machine? Not by a long way. Their hands are full. The winner is in the playoffs. If we win we would be up 1 game on them. Regardless of what happens in Fargo we would be seeded higher.
They are not invincible. We are in a whole new territory now. For the 307th time…we win twice we get a piece of the title. Remember that.
I guaranty you there’s ZERO doubt our kids don’t feel we won’t win. ZERO
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 10, 2021 23:50:15 GMT -6
The Jacks can still make the playoffs if they lose and so can the Coyotes. Big difference is that the Jacks are home to North Dakota and the Coyotes are in Fargo. The Jacks have a cushion that the Coyotes don't have. Even if the Yotes beat the Jacks head to head it does not guarantee they will be seeded ahead of the Jacks. I think if the Jacks lose to SD but beat ND and the Coyotes beat the Jacks but lose to the Bison both teams would be 5-3 in the conference but the Coyotes would be 7-4 and the Jacks 8-3 with a big win over Colorado State on their resume. They didn't just beat them, they pretty much destroyed them.
IMO the Jacks would get the benefit of the doubt for having a better record, a convincing FBS win and a team that is getting healthy. Head to head is important but is only part of the entire resume. The Jacks resume would be better IMO. I would love for that to not be true but I am just being objective. The Coyotes should be more urgent this weekend because IMO if they don't beat SDSU they are not gonna beat NDSU. Banking on a win in Fargo as much as we would all like to believe possible is not a good thing to have to rely on. Would it be great, sure. Just not likely.
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Post by Yotes on Nov 11, 2021 7:18:57 GMT -6
I would argue that state has already clinched a playoff berth. Losing 2 to end the season would be a bad look, but if the pollsters have them in the top 5 with 2 losses I'm sure they'll have them in the field with 4 losses.
They still have a ton to play for though. Conference title, playoff seed, rivalries, pride.
In spite of this, I believe they are wildly overrated. Their deep run in the fake season is influencing public perception more than it should. I dearly hope they get a rude awakening on Saturday.
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Post by jackedforlife on Nov 11, 2021 7:40:11 GMT -6
Jacks have the FBS win but also carry a D2 non counter win against Lindenwood due to Tarleton backing out of their game against the Jacks.
So the Jacks are going to have a resumé that only includes 10 games. 3 or 4 losses on that resumé is much worse than 11 games. Besides, no team wants to back into the playoffs, good way to guarantee a quick exit. The other thing the Jacks are playing(maybe desperately so) is a first round bye.
Overrated? Not sure I’d agree there but I also don’t think they’re underrated either.
In any case both teams are pretty good. Honestly the Yotes quality play and youth of the squad overall is impressive.
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Post by yoteforever on Nov 11, 2021 9:11:38 GMT -6
When the Jacks are firing on all cylinders they are as good as any team in the country. The really fun part is that the Coyotes are right there as well.
To be honest,I’m glad we literally are in the playoffs right now. I want to see how these young guys stack up in pressure situations. This is great experience. To me just getting to the playoffs is not my goal. I want to advance and be heard. Winning a chunk of the title assures us a spot.
I don’t think the Jacks are way overrated. I’m in the thought that we are underrated. If Camp goes down then we’re not underrated witnessed by Illinois State game.
We are fine. We can and will play with these guys. There is zero reason to be intimidated. They’ll punch us,,,we’ll punch them. Let’s find out who can throw a bigger punch.
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Post by yoteforever on Nov 11, 2021 9:16:23 GMT -6
One last thought. Their fan board is noticeably quiet when normally they’re discussing not if they’ll win but by how much. That tells me they are nervous as hell about this game.
Jackedforlife, you bring a reasonable perspective to this matchup. Many posters on your board don’t like outside perspectives that don’t align with their vision. Thanks for being here this week
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Post by jackedforlife on Nov 11, 2021 10:29:23 GMT -6
I think many SDSU fan forum posters are quietly cautiously optimistic coming into this game. We recognize the Yotes are as strong a team this year than they’ve had top to bottom. Add the acid burn of 2019 that still sits in the pit of our stomachs will cause some to be quieter than normal.
Optimism though because as fans we know that if the Oline is on fire the Jacks can run on anyone. Even taking away Strong’s 75 yard run last week he averaged 4.1 a carry vs the Bison. Add the other weapons on offense and as good as the Yotes D can be it’s possible they could still have issues slowing them down. Honestly I think at times the Jacks offense have been hampered not by the players themselves but plays called.
The Jacks D is getting healthy at the right time but still coming back. The Yotes have a good run game but that seems to be the strength of this D. Honestly I think if the Yotes are to be successful on Offense it’ll be in the air, with Samson being the one who concerns me most.
Saturday can’t come soon enough.
I’m really surprised at how quiet the smack sections on each of the fan forums are…I expect that to change depending on the outcome of the game.
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Post by easmus on Nov 11, 2021 12:47:38 GMT -6
Line moved to SDSU -7.5
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Post by Yotes on Nov 11, 2021 13:19:35 GMT -6
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Post by gopheryote on Nov 11, 2021 16:46:16 GMT -6
The Jacks D is getting healthy at the right time but still coming back. The Yotes have a good run game but that seems to be the strength of this D. Honestly I think if the Yotes are to be successful on Offense it’ll be in the air, with Samson being the one who concerns me most. If you are looking to watch a game-within-the-game, I think the Yote's strength on offense is balance (not the run or pass individually). Strong will be the best offensive player on the field (by quite a bit), but next best players on O may be USD wide receivers. If SDSU is able to take away the run, the Yotes will be pretty comfortable throwing the ball, since that is where the playmakers are. The run game is pretty good and the passing game is pretty good, but combined it is an efficient offense (if Camp is healthy), and they really don't turn the ball over much. |
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Post by jackedforlife on Nov 11, 2021 21:32:11 GMT -6
The Jacks D is getting healthy at the right time but still coming back. The Yotes have a good run game but that seems to be the strength of this D. Honestly I think if the Yotes are to be successful on Offense it’ll be in the air, with Samson being the one who concerns me most. If you are looking to watch a game-within-the-game, I think the Yote's strength on offense is balance (not the run or pass individually). Strong will be the best offensive player on the field (by quite a bit), but next best players on O may be USD wide receivers. If SDSU is able to take away the run, the Yotes will be pretty comfortable throwing the ball, since that is where the playmakers are. The run game is pretty good and the passing game is pretty good, but combined it is an efficient offense (if Camp is healthy), and they really don't turn the ball over much. To look at the team stats from scoring, yards and turnovers it’s fairly even. Not to take anything away from Camp and the WRs but if the Jacks D can make them one dimensional I don’t think it bodes well for the Yotes. I may be wrong but with the depth and aggressiveness of the Jacks Dline it could prove to be a long afternoon. |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 12, 2021 1:39:05 GMT -6
If you are looking to watch a game-within-the-game, I think the Yote's strength on offense is balance (not the run or pass individually). Strong will be the best offensive player on the field (by quite a bit), but next best players on O may be USD wide receivers. If SDSU is able to take away the run, the Yotes will be pretty comfortable throwing the ball, since that is where the playmakers are. The run game is pretty good and the passing game is pretty good, but combined it is an efficient offense (if Camp is healthy), and they really don't turn the ball over much. To look at the team stats from scoring, yards and turnovers it’s fairly even. Not to take anything away from Camp and the WRs but if the Jacks D can make them one dimensional I don’t think it bodes well for the Yotes. I may be wrong but with the depth and aggressiveness of the Jacks Dline it could prove to be a long afternoon. I am picking the Jacks but the same can be said for the Coyote D. They have been pretty darn good so far and could well provide their own trouble for the Rabbits offense. If the Jacks are capable of losing games at home vs UNI and SIU than I would have to say the Yotes in the dome may cause some issues as well. I think it will be a well balanced game with the Rabbits just making a few more clutch plays to pull it out. Of course I hope that doesn't happen but if the Jacks are not on their game this could easily turn the Jacks right column from a 2 to a 3. This Coyote team is much more capable and much more disciplined and don't tend to wear out at the end of the game. One thing that has also helped the Coyotes this year a few times is that they have drawn teams the week after they have played NDSU. It is tough to play the Bison and then have their A game the next week. |
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Post by nccyote on Nov 12, 2021 8:51:49 GMT -6
This game is a true pick 'em. How anyone could think one side has a decided advantage over the other is beyond me. 2 great run defenses. 2 good, balanced offenses. Sdsu may have more star appeal with Strong and Kroft on offense, but USD might be better as a complete unit on that side of the ball. Both D-lines are very good, Sdsu might be a little deeper. LB and secondary advantage might go to the Yotes due to experience and health. This is going to be a heavyweight brawl. Special teams and turnovers might decide this game. In my opinion, USD has the advantage in both of those areas. the Yotes kicking game has been a huge weapon this season and Oladokun has been turnover prone. I hope he throws it to the guys in red a couple times on Saturday.
My prediction:
3 rabbit turnovers produce an early lead for the Yotes and the kicking game scores points in the 2nd half. Yotes hold on to win a thriller.
Yotes 27-21
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