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Post by yotenation on Mar 22, 2023 7:24:36 GMT -6
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Post by marco on Mar 22, 2023 8:11:11 GMT -6
that's great she is one good player to add to the roster for next year she was very good last year in the few games she played
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Post by elcoyote on Mar 22, 2023 9:00:29 GMT -6
I think Broughton is an excellent redshirt candidate if she's amenable to that. Absolutely she is. It's a huge jump going from Class B to D1 in terms of competition. She has the ability and athleticism when fully healthy. I think she needs a redshirt year to adjust, get healthy, and get stronger. Sets her up for success. I don't think she'll be ready year one for any significant minutes. We'll see but that's the way I see it going down. I would echo this for Kieffer too. |
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Post by jmgg on Mar 22, 2023 9:02:26 GMT -6
I think Broughton is an excellent redshirt candidate if she's amenable to that. Absolutely she is. It's a huge jump going from Class B to D1 in terms of competition. She has the ability and athleticism when fully healthy. I think she needs a redshirt year to adjust, get healthy, and get stronger. Sets her up for success. I don't think she'll be ready year one for any significant minutes. We'll see but that's the way I see it going down. I don't put any negatives on players making this jump over those playing AA ball. Often these players have learned how to be THE girl that is depended on more than those in bigger classes and come into college with more confidence. You see it over and over again. Just recently with some of our own best players like the Duffy sisters, the Arens sisters, Chloe Lamb, and Taylor Frederick. Don't forget Mandy Koupal from years back as well and Myah Selland for State as an all too recent reminder for us. Based on what I've heard about the Broughton girl, this is probably the case. Down in Glenwood IA where my son teaches, a girl named Jenna Hopp was 1st team all-state and obliterated this school's scoring record while leading her team to state 3 straight years. I doubt USD knew she existed so who does she sign with? South Dakota State. SD State finds these small-town gems. |
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Post by marco on Mar 22, 2023 9:15:26 GMT -6
With AAU and camps coaches see most of these players in the summer. I know a guy who has a daughter now they seem to scout the players better I think we were recruiting Selland but then Amy left so she went to state The Arens sisters were players who didn't do AAU or camps they worked on the farm. Looks like are new coaches will know players out there. They went to all the area state tournaments
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Post by yote18 on Mar 22, 2023 9:16:00 GMT -6
Too far out to really predict but I think it’ll be a bumpy non-con as this is essentially year 1 2.0 and its going to take some time to get players adjusted to playing together and into a system. I just hope we can get some quality wins to build some confidence for the conference season.
I’d say SDSU is the overwhelming favorite again and we get voted to finish between 5-7 in the preseason poll. Actual finish who knows but anything below 2 is going to be a bummer.
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Post by Men's League Waterboy on Mar 22, 2023 10:03:40 GMT -6
Just as many AA kids struggle when they get to college as B kids.
The variance in how bad the worst teams are is obviously less in AA. More kids, less chance to drop off the table. The worst team in AA is going to be better than the worst teams in lower classes.
But the idea that it's some kind of different level producing a different kind of players is the fever dream of people who never get off I-90 or I-29 when they drive anywhere in SD.
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Post by soofooyote on Mar 22, 2023 10:29:32 GMT -6
Just as many AA kids struggle when they get to college as B kids. The variance in how bad the worst teams are is obviously less in AA. More kids, less chance to drop off the table. The worst team in AA is going to be better than the worst teams in lower classes. But the idea that it's some kind of different level producing a different kind of players is the fever dream of people who never get off I-90 or I-29 when they drive anywhere in SD. The big difference is that the smaller school kids don't get the experience of playing against consistent competition with SIZE and athleticism. The girls that consistently excel in AA often are ending up at P-5 schools, while us or state gets the girls from the lower classes (A and B). That's not saying the smaller schools don't have great players that play great at the next level, it's just a fact that they don't play competition at the same level consistently. May be a non-factor for some of them, but it may also expose some weakness when they play that level of competition night in and out. Most of that gets exposed now on the AAU circuit so it's less of an issue than it was 10 years ago. |
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Post by marco on Mar 22, 2023 10:55:50 GMT -6
Well next year all 3 of our recruits are from small school. That first year can be hard . I think Demers being from a small school hurt her she should be much better next year
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Post by Men's League Waterboy on Mar 22, 2023 11:23:12 GMT -6
Just as many AA kids struggle when they get to college as B kids. The variance in how bad the worst teams are is obviously less in AA. More kids, less chance to drop off the table. The worst team in AA is going to be better than the worst teams in lower classes. But the idea that it's some kind of different level producing a different kind of players is the fever dream of people who never get off I-90 or I-29 when they drive anywhere in SD. The big difference is that the smaller school kids don't get the experience of playing against consistent competition with SIZE and athleticism. The girls that consistently excel in AA often are ending up at P-5 schools, while us or state gets the girls from the lower classes (A and B). That's not saying the smaller schools don't have great players that play great at the next level, it's just a fact that they don't play competition at the same level consistently. May be a non-factor for some of them, but it may also expose some weakness when they play that level of competition night in and out. Most of that gets exposed now on the AAU circuit so it's less of an issue than it was 10 years ago. Often seems like a bit of an overstatement not really backed up by much of anything. |
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Post by elcoyote on Mar 22, 2023 12:22:41 GMT -6
Absolutely she is. It's a huge jump going from Class B to D1 in terms of competition. She has the ability and athleticism when fully healthy. I think she needs a redshirt year to adjust, get healthy, and get stronger. Sets her up for success. I don't think she'll be ready year one for any significant minutes. We'll see but that's the way I see it going down. I don't put any negatives on players making this jump over those playing AA ball. Often these players have learned how to be THE girl that is depended on more than those in bigger classes and come into college with more confidence. You see it over and over again. Just recently with some of our own best players like the Duffy sisters, the Arens sisters, Chloe Lamb, and Taylor Frederick. Don't forget Mandy Koupal from years back as well and Myah Selland for State as an all too recent reminder for us. Based on what I've heard about the Broughton girl, this is probably the case. Down in Glenwood IA where my son teaches, a girl named Jenna Hopp was 1st team all-state and obliterated this school's scoring record while leading her team to state 3 straight years. I doubt USD knew she existed so who does she sign with? South Dakota State. SD State finds these small-town gems.Yet all the former Coyote players you listed came from small towns or schools |
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Post by marco on Mar 22, 2023 13:58:06 GMT -6
USD new about jenna hopp but we got 2 guards they liked the girl from rapid city had over 2400 points and Addison is a big time scorer and took a power forward I am happy about those girls that's filled our scholarships up
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Post by jmgg on Mar 22, 2023 15:31:33 GMT -6
I don't put any negatives on players making this jump over those playing AA ball. Often these players have learned how to be THE girl that is depended on more than those in bigger classes and come into college with more confidence. You see it over and over again. Just recently with some of our own best players like the Duffy sisters, the Arens sisters, Chloe Lamb, and Taylor Frederick. Don't forget Mandy Koupal from years back as well and Myah Selland for State as an all too recent reminder for us. Based on what I've heard about the Broughton girl, this is probably the case. Down in Glenwood IA where my son teaches, a girl named Jenna Hopp was 1st team all-state and obliterated this school's scoring record while leading her team to state 3 straight years. I doubt USD knew she existed so who does she sign with? South Dakota State. SD State finds these small-town gems.Yet all the former Coyote players you listed came from small towns or schools Yet, SD State recruits these small schools better. Just compare the rosters this past year. We've got maybe 2 or 3 girls (Peplowski & Demers & maybe Hempe) from small school programs. With SD State, I count 7 who were from smaller schools. When you look over the years at where we got many of our better players, it's often these smaller enrollment schools. I'm very glad to see us signing some of these girls from the smaller schools with the new recruiting classes. |
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Post by kiyoat on Mar 22, 2023 16:19:40 GMT -6
Yet all the former Coyote players you listed came from small towns or schools Yet, SD State recruits these small schools better. Just compare the rosters this past year. We've got maybe 2 or 3 girls (Peplowski & Demers & maybe Hempe) from small school programs. With SD State, I count 7 who were from smaller schools. When you look over the years at where we got many of our better players, it's often these smaller enrollment schools. I'm very glad to see us signing some of these girls from the smaller schools with the new recruiting classes. Pep may have been from a small school, but it was in the Lansing, Michigan metro area. It's not like she was a farm kid in an isolated small town. Her dad was a former NBA player. Let's just stop labelling these kids as "small town" vs "city" kids. There isn't a ton of difference. Either they can play basketball or they can't. There are both small-town and big-town kids that play together on AAU teams, and plenty of talent comes from both backgrounds. Plenty of hard-working motivated kids come from both places, too. And they ALL make stupid TikTock videos. It's about as shitty as trying to count the number of kids "of color" on a roster just by looking at pictures. You can't really guess accurately what a kid's background or experience is without knowing a lot about them personally. It's just another form of stereotyping. It's nice to see SD kids on rosters, or kids from the "local" region. It sells tickets, and gets more people invested, grows the fan-base, etc. But at the end of the day, what really sells tickets is winning. Give me a roster that wins, and that loves each other. Period. White, Black, Brown, American, Nigerian, Russian, Rural or Urban, South Dakotan or Alabaman. Whatever, Bro. |
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Post by kiyoat on Mar 22, 2023 16:27:52 GMT -6
...except for kids with a history of violent assault. I'll discriminate against that.
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