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Post by shamrock on Sept 27, 2010 8:41:31 GMT -6
wow. read alot of crap since after that game. alot of coaches on here huh. maybe a couple ex players? but definately alot of bandwagon goin on here. no doubt we laid an egg in the second half. WE STUNK. but to say our recruiting sucks now. our coaches suck now. our outside linebackers suck. What? andrew meier and elliot harper are studs. our d line is very young. i cant believe what im hearing about recruiting. we have an absolute stud of a head coach in recruiting. point made, how awesome is the alerus center the uni dome the fargo dome. we win battles with them year in and year out in recruiting. Its so obvious to see the Ed haters on here because their comments are not rational at all. Do you realize what NDSU remembers about usd football? beating the crap out of us (minus 2002) for years! WE HAVE A GOOD PROGRAM. the past 7 years we have never had a losing season. but now all the sudden we deserve a 10-1 year every year? we dont deserve anything unless were out there making the plays or coaching the kids. we deserve to sit and watch and support and that is it! we played bad in the second half vs a good football team on the road. no excuses. get over it stay with the team and lets move on BEAT THE SUE! GO YOTES! HAVE FAITH!
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Post by yoteforever on Sept 27, 2010 9:32:59 GMT -6
Wow is right.
First of all, there isn't anyone that likes the meltdown we had the 3rd quarter. No one saw that coming. Not the staff, not the players, and certainly not the fans. But like Yote53 said, it happened, so deal with it, learn from it, and move on.
Games like this happen from time to time. Last year at Northern Colorado was a prime example. We should have won that game by 21, instead we lose. Could we have beaten NDSU? It's possible, but not likely. The first half, they dropped very catchable balls that might have changed the complexion of the game earlier. We also did some dumb things, but the coaches at NDSU did what they had to do to win the game. They adjusted, we didn't, and as a result, we got beat.
Say what you want, but the killer of the night was the penalties on our KO returns. You can't start on your own 7,9, and 10 and expect to drive the ball 90 yards against what in my mind is the best defense I have seen on a football field any division in a veryyyyyy long time. I am a defensive guy, so I appreciate good defense, and the Bison have a great defense. Them beating Kansas was no fluke, no more than us beating Minnesota.
I am not good enough at evaluating talent, so I can't blame anyone in particular on what is going on on the defensive side of the ball. I know from playing there umpteen years ago, defense is as much a "feeling" as anything else. A so called mindset. If you think you are bad asses, then more than likely that will come out. If you play scared or maybe a better word is unsure of yourself, then I think you are in trouble.
To the people throwing Ed under the bus, I have one thing to say..............................stop it. Someone identified him as a CEO, and that is correct. Ed is a brilliant recruiter, and to bring in quality athletes to Vermillion, you have to be. If he needs better personal on the D side of the ball, then that is where he will focus. But to say all he does is galavent around Vermtown and Sioux falls sucking in the limelight is total BS.
You may not like Ed or his style, and that's your opinion, but to throw him under the bus for one half of football is ridiculous. This team will bounce back and win games. How many? Maybe 5 or 6. Maybe more. Listen people, we are in year three of transition, and we still have kids that were recruited and playing for a D-2 school. Rome was not built in a day.
Maybe the worst thing that happened was beating Minnesota from a fan persepctive. Recruiting wise, no. Saturday, wear RED, be loud (that would be new) and cheer like hell.
GO YOTES
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Post by shamrock on Sept 27, 2010 9:45:47 GMT -6
I agree with that completely. d2 recruits are still playing. some in key positions. and I really think we can win any game we play in this year but the season is a grind our schedule is equivlant to a sec type schedule. obviously im comparing to the fcs level. but we dont have a gimmie game this year. and i think thats great! because ya know what yote fans we dont graduate anyone! we lose cory kuehl eric leon and scott slotten. 3 guys! 2 of those 3 rotate in with younger guys. we can have a great year this year and keep building this program! this year is only going to help our guys become better. 1 game at a time coaches are good here it was less then a week ago we were talking about how lucky we are to have them so lets not prove to be the biggest front runners ever and start throwing them under the bus. positive energy produces positive things. Go yotes beat the sue!
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Sept 27, 2010 11:15:11 GMT -6
First off, I have been throwing Ed under the bus for about two years now because of his lack of X's and O's and not really being able to motivate the team at the right time. If you look at the other end of the sidelines, Craig Bohl is a great X's and O's guy and is great at motivating his team. So if you say the coach shouldn't be more than a CEO, well refer that to D-II football. Brewster is a horrible X's and O's guy and Minny is going to can him. Plus that was Beschorner that came up with the game plan against Minny.
You mention the penalities? Well Mitch Mohr had three or four of them. He is a prime example of a player that is coddled by Ed. He talks about how Mitch and London Landry are NFL tight ends. That is a complete joke. He puts some players on such high pedestals and sells that to us.
About the recruiting. I agree USD is getting some good recruits like Marcus Sim, Dante Warren, Shane Potter and the offensive line to name a few, but Ed keeps saying how all of these new recruits could play as freshmen right now, but we aren't seeing that in the linebacking core at all, which is the only position we aren't seeing that in. That's one of the MOST important positions on the field. Yes, cornerback has always been a weak spot, but who calls the defensive plays and makes the reads? The linebackers. I do really like Adam Broders and Shea Williams is good, but man, I have been worried all year about the outside backers.
Also, I am not overreacting to the loss like some others. I know USD didn't just give up. I think this is a really good NDSU team with a good front five on offensive and things just finally started to click. Brock Jensen is a redshirt freshman so this team has no where to go but up. They put up 21 points in the fourth quarter against Morgan State as well. This offense could put up a lot of points on a lot of teams. They scored six against Kansas and 9 against UNI, two pretty good defenses.
I agree that USD has a good program, and I don't expect 10-1, but Ed really padded the schedule with cake opponents when USD was D-II so he could get some easy wins. While Ed has gotten us here, he hasn't really showed me he is a good D-I coach. Maybe decent, but not good. He has shown the ability to bring in some great assistants, but that is it. There is a reason Montana State didn't go with him as coach a few years back.....
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Post by yotemeal on Sept 27, 2010 11:44:11 GMT -6
Wow is right. First of all, there isn't anyone that likes the meltdown we had the 3rd quarter. No one saw that coming. Not the staff, not the players, and certainly not the fans. But like Yote53 said, it happened, so deal with it, learn from it, and move on. Games like this happen from time to time. Last year at Northern Colorado was a prime example. We should have won that game by 21, instead we lose. Could we have beaten NDSU? It's possible, but not likely. The first half, they dropped very catchable balls that might have changed the complexion of the game earlier. We also did some dumb things, but the coaches at NDSU did what they had to do to win the game. They adjusted, we didn't, and as a result, we got beat. Say what you want, but the killer of the night was the penalties on our KO returns. You can't start on your own 7,9, and 10 and expect to drive the ball 90 yards against what in my mind is the best defense I have seen on a football field any division in a veryyyyyy long time. I am a defensive guy, so I appreciate good defense, and the Bison have a great defense. Them beating Kansas was no fluke, no more than us beating Minnesota. I am not good enough at evaluating talent, so I can't blame anyone in particular on what is going on on the defensive side of the ball. I know from playing there umpteen years ago, defense is as much a "feeling" as anything else. A so called mindset. If you think you are bad asses, then more than likely that will come out. If you play scared or maybe a better word is unsure of yourself, then I think you are in trouble. To the people throwing Ed under the bus, I have one thing to say..............................stop it. Someone identified him as a CEO, and that is correct. Ed is a brilliant recruiter, and to bring in quality athletes to Vermillion, you have to be. If he needs better personal on the D side of the ball, then that is where he will focus. But to say all he does is galavent around Vermtown and Sioux falls sucking in the limelight is total BS. You may not like Ed or his style, and that's your opinion, but to throw him under the bus for one half of football is ridiculous. This team will bounce back and win games. How many? Maybe 5 or 6. Maybe more. Listen people, we are in year three of transition, and we still have kids that were recruited and playing for a D-2 school. Rome was not built in a day. Maybe the worst thing that happened was beating Minnesota from a fan persepctive. Recruiting wise, no. Saturday, wear RED, be loud (that would be new) and cheer like hell. GO YOTES Concur.
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Post by shamrock on Sept 27, 2010 12:18:56 GMT -6
coyote fan admin man who the eff are you and who have you ever coached for besides on madden? you dont know s***. NOTHING! you have zero credientials. none! go to ed's office and show him what you know. x's and o's huh. your a joke. its always something with you. you dont know squat. and ndsu fans were throwing there coach under the bus about the same crap. now all the sudden hes the man again? your a front runner and i suggest you wear blue cuz as a coyote fan i dont want idiots like you in red. So unless your gonna put your name behind what you just said and how much you know then shut up. Go yotes! if you wanna complain more maybe give john austin a call see if we can get him back here.
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Post by shamrock on Sept 27, 2010 12:21:48 GMT -6
AND ANYONE ON HERE WHO HAS HEARD ED MEIERKORT SPEAK TO HIS TEAM. KNOWS MOTIVATIONAL SPEECHES ARE THE LEAST OF OUR WORRIES. They play their tails off for him. i know we have to at least have a few ex yotes that have played for ed on here.
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Sept 27, 2010 12:27:19 GMT -6
Mr. Shamrock, I have a lot of inside info and I definitely know what I am talking about with Ed. Trust me on this. You are on a one way street heading for a ban right now with that last post.
I don't see the names on your posts as well, not to mention the fact that your email is a seminoles one, so way to go Bobby Bowden on me. Plus you are 21, so I am guessing you have ties to the football program.
Also, NDSU fans have a tendency to overreact. Craig Bohl has always been a very good coach in my opinion.
Like I said, look at why Montana State chose a coach that led Drake, a team with no scholarship experience, over Ed. I think Montana State found out why they hired him over Ed as well when USD gave up that game last year.
Ed is pretty good at motivational speeches. He is also good at throwing his coordinators under the bus. Check out the post game video if you don't believe me.
Also, if your next post comes away with zero respect. you will receive a one month ban.
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Post by shamrock on Sept 27, 2010 12:30:32 GMT -6
where does your inside info come from? just curious.
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Sept 27, 2010 12:33:02 GMT -6
Where does your inside info come from? Just curious as well. You want me to disclose MY inside info but you are willing to tell me NOTHING about you? How does that seem fair? You are seriously walking on thin ice right now. Maybe you should disclose the info to me before you start calling me out.
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Post by shamrock on Sept 27, 2010 12:34:30 GMT -6
Ed treats wes like his son. if u watch practice ed is always on the offense side during team. he lets chuck do his thing. his coaches love working for him because he gives them freedom. like i said earlier any ex players on here would say the same thing.
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Sept 27, 2010 12:39:01 GMT -6
I never disagreed with that fact. He loves Wes, but maybe he completely threw Wes AND Chuck under the bus after the NDSU game, and he put no blame on himself. He said it was the coaching and then went on to blame those two. If Ed is so hands on coaching, why didn't he put Sims in for Ganious, because that move clearly needed to be made on Saturday. That is just one of the many things I noticed.
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Post by shamrock on Sept 27, 2010 12:41:46 GMT -6
i never said he was. i said he lets his coordinators run their show. which would be hands off.
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Sept 27, 2010 12:46:16 GMT -6
That's an easy way for him to take none of the blame isn't it.
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Post by usdfbalum on Sept 27, 2010 13:05:21 GMT -6
Ed, like him or not has been a very big net positive for the University. Is he well liked? Good place to start would be with his players and coaches that work for him. You will probably get different answers from those people if you injected them with truth serum - just like any boss or CEO at businesses throughout this country. His job at USD is not a popularity contest. Ultimately if he wins, keeps his players out of trouble , and helps them graduate from the U - he is successful. I can't say I enjoyed my head coach when I was at the U - but you know what - I benefited from my time working under him. Ed's players are playing their buts off for him. They are playing as hard as a unit as I have seen in years. That is a good sign. A sign of a team that is buying in. I don't care what the stats say this year - the defense (with the exception of the 2nd half against NDSU) is much improved in tackling and aggressiveness. They have a hard hitting attitude developing and I anticipate USD's defense in the next two to three years to be a real Lead Story for the team. No way USD would have won the game against the Gophers without the improved tackling and aggressiveness.
The NDSU team took over the game physically in the second half. Could USD have won if they fired on all cylinders that night? YES ! They are not going to fire on all cylinders every time. They are not yet good enough to just play extremely hard but just execute OK and walk away with a victory against a program like NDSU. That is one of the things that makes College football so unpredictable and popular.
Let's move on. Ed is USD's coach and we are lucky to have him at this point in our transition. He is squeezing out a lot from what he has had to work with. Good news is that USD is improving and better days are ahead. I have never been more excited for the Yotes - a sentiment, I would guess, we all share.
Let's take out the frustration I sense on this board by yelling as loud as possible this Saturday and making it a miserable day for the Fighting Sioux.
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