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Post by coyote70 on Nov 27, 2011 22:03:28 GMT -6
I think a few members are getting on the 'personal attacks' bandwagon and need to be more careful - please. Let's stay on focus. A lot of names are likely going to be tossed around on this thread so just let things ride. Unless you're part of the formal recruitment process, this is all in fun. At least I hope so!
My guess is that we will get someone who has a successful track record as a head coach. Beyond that I have absolutely no idea who will be a good fit. For my 2 cents I hope the U will attract someone who: 1) is relatively young (e.g. looking to prove himself, take on challenges, energetic); and 2) is passionate about the game. To me, passion speaks of leadership and that is what makes a good head coach.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2011 7:34:24 GMT -6
Zook and Turner Gill are on the market now too. Gill has success at Buffalo and was in Lincoln. He knows the area and has won before. If he wants to be a header he's worth a look. I don't know what is coordinator experience is right of hand. Got to get them to apply first. I recall when Nagy was hired, (a long time ago), several D1 assistants were in the race, but one from UNL sticks in my mind, everything went fine until they got to salary requirements and needless to say, SDSU could not match what this fellow wanted. That might be the case with Josh Houpel, Turner Gill and Zook. Just say'n. Unless there are some deep pockets amongst USD boosters, you have to be realistic in your next choice. The top assistants in the MVFC and Big Sky seem like doable choices.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2011 7:38:40 GMT -6
I think a few members are getting on the 'personal attacks' bandwagon and need to be more careful - please. Let's stay on focus. A lot of names are likely going to be tossed around on this thread so just let things ride. Unless you're part of the formal recruitment process, this is all in fun. At least I hope so! My guess is that we will get someone who has a successful track record as a head coach. Beyond that I have absolutely no idea who will be a good fit. For my 2 cents I hope the U will attract someone who: 1) is relatively young (e.g. looking to prove himself, take on challenges, energetic); and 2) is passionate about the game. To me, passion speaks of leadership and that is what makes a good head coach. This post makes sense.
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Post by chuck on Nov 28, 2011 7:56:06 GMT -6
I think a few members are getting on the 'personal attacks' bandwagon and need to be more careful - please. Let's stay on focus. A lot of names are likely going to be tossed around on this thread so just let things ride. Unless you're part of the formal recruitment process, this is all in fun. At least I hope so! Exactly
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Post by chuck on Nov 28, 2011 8:01:15 GMT -6
Zook and Turner Gill are on the market now too. Gill has success at Buffalo and was in Lincoln. He knows the area and has won before. If he wants to be a header he's worth a look. I don't know what is coordinator experience is right of hand. Yes, I know Turner Gill might be kind of a stretch...BUT I would also add that he doesn't need money (3 years left on his Kansas contract) and that he has seen Craig Bohl's successful transition to NDSU as they were on staff together at Nebraska. Because of his huge name in Nebraska, he could dominate recruiting in there and the surrounding states. That would be a great hire...but I am guessing he would/could/should get another chance at the non-BCS FBS level. Not too many of these jobs open right now, maybe if we act swiftly....dare to dream.
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Post by usdfbalum on Nov 28, 2011 9:04:00 GMT -6
Zook and Turner Gill are on the market now too. Gill has success at Buffalo and was in Lincoln. He knows the area and has won before. If he wants to be a header he's worth a look. I don't know what is coordinator experience is right of hand. Yes, I know Turner Gill might be kind of a stretch...BUT I would also add that he doesn't need money (3 years left on his Kansas contract) and that he has seen Craig Bohl's successful transition to NDSU as they were on staff together at Nebraska. Because of his huge name in Nebraska, he could dominate recruiting in there and the surrounding states. That would be a great hire...but I am guessing he would/could/should get another chance at the non-BCS FBS level. Not too many of these jobs open right now, maybe if we act swiftly....dare to dream. Kansas is off the hook for paying turner if he takes another coaching job. That is why coaches that get let go before their contract is up often spend at least the following year visiting/observing other FB programs. Same thing with Ed. He will be paid by SD through June, unless he accepts another coaching job prior to that date.
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Post by Cousin Eddie on Nov 28, 2011 9:30:44 GMT -6
Scott Frost?
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Post by drdank on Nov 28, 2011 9:40:58 GMT -6
How do we pay for a new coaching staff?
Winning is the long term answer of course
After the 9 conference games, are we locked into 11 or can we schedule 12 games? I'd like to have a permanant series with UND, but I think we'll need 2 geographically strategic FBS money games, and a strategic FCS game to help ranking and recruiting.
Any suggestions on how to increase attendance and increased alumni participation/dollars?
Can we increase the student body size and maintain academic standards? Can USD organize Alumni chapters across the country to help game day support, fundraising, and recruiting? The current version of the Howling Pack barely wheezes. What are the fraternities and other organizations doing to bring dollars to Vermillion?
Does anyone have any other thoughts?
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Post by jackl on Nov 28, 2011 10:15:40 GMT -6
How do we pay for a new coaching staff? Winning is the long term answer of course After the 9 conference games, are we locked into 11 or can we schedule 12 games? I'd like to have a permanant series with UND, but I think we'll need 2 geographically strategic FBS money games, and a strategic FCS game to help ranking and recruiting. Any suggestions on how to increase attendance and increased alumni participation/dollars? Can we increase the student body size and maintain academic standards? Can USD organize Alumni chapters across the country to help game day support, fundraising, and recruiting? The current version of the Howling Pack barely wheezes. What are the fraternities and other organizations doing to bring dollars to Vermillion? Does anyone have any other thoughts? Playing two FBS games a year really hurts your chances of making the playoffs,which is the ultimate goal.
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Post by yoteforever on Nov 28, 2011 10:54:01 GMT -6
How do we pay for a new coaching staff? Winning is the long term answer of course After the 9 conference games, are we locked into 11 or can we schedule 12 games? I'd like to have a permanant series with UND, but I think we'll need 2 geographically strategic FBS money games, and a strategic FCS game to help ranking and recruiting. Any suggestions on how to increase attendance and increased alumni participation/dollars? Can we increase the student body size and maintain academic standards? Can USD organize Alumni chapters across the country to help game day support, fundraising, and recruiting? The current version of the Howling Pack barely wheezes. What are the fraternities and other organizations doing to bring dollars to Vermillion? Does anyone have any other thoughts? Playing two FBS games a year really hurts your chances of making the playoffs,which is the ultimate goal. Jackl, Given the fact you (sdsu) has been down this road, is it your opinion that playing 2 FBS games hurts your chances or is at a fact? I don't know what goes into that decision. I would think that the selection committee would take that into consideration, but maybe not. What is the basis for your comment? And by he way, I do appreciate your input on this topic. YFE
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Post by jackl on Nov 28, 2011 11:25:50 GMT -6
Playing two FBS games a year really hurts your chances of making the playoffs,which is the ultimate goal. Jackl, Given the fact you (sdsu) has been down this road, is it your opinion that playing 2 FBS games hurts your chances or is at a fact? I don't know what goes into that decision. I would think that the selection committee would take that into consideration, but maybe not. What is the basis for your comment? And by he way, I do appreciate your input on this topic. YFE They did expand the playoff last year and now take 20 teams instead of 16,so that helps. There are 10 automatic qualifiers,which are the the schools that won their conference. Anything less than 7 wins it's almost impossible to get an at large berth. Yes,they do look at strength of schedule in picking playoff teams. For reference, the Valley got 2 teams this year and they were ranked as the top conference, so that kind of gives you an idea of difficulty of getting an at large.
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Post by jman1985 on Nov 28, 2011 12:44:43 GMT -6
Scott Frost is an interesting name. Native of Nebraska, coaching wide receivers at Oregon.
Again, though, no head coaching experience. But would that matter?
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Post by jimmyjack on Nov 28, 2011 14:07:38 GMT -6
Jackl, Given the fact you (sdsu) has been down this road, is it your opinion that playing 2 FBS games hurts your chances or is at a fact? I don't know what goes into that decision. I would think that the selection committee would take that into consideration, but maybe not. What is the basis for your comment? And by he way, I do appreciate your input on this topic. YFE They did expand the playoff last year and now take 20 teams instead of 16,so that helps. There are 10 automatic qualifiers,which are the the schools that won their conference. Anything less than 7 wins it's almost impossible to get an at large berth. Yes,they do look at strength of schedule in picking playoff teams. For reference, the Valley got 2 teams this year and they were ranked as the top conference, so that kind of gives you an idea of difficulty of getting an at large. Yup. Unless you get to 7, you won't get a look. That means 6-2 in the conference, which is pretty tough plus one cupcake FCS out-of-conference win. It could be done, but I prefer this math: Two easy FCS out-of-conference wins (preferably home games). 5-3 in the conference. Loss to FBS. 7-4 and you have a shot.
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Post by jman1985 on Nov 28, 2011 14:17:45 GMT -6
Remember, Turner Gill has SOME connection to USD. He brought in Jarod Dodson, a 5 year assistant with the Yotes, to Buffalo in 2009.
Then Turner went to Kansas and Jarod ended up at Old Dominion
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Post by Cousin Eddie on Nov 28, 2011 14:57:23 GMT -6
Scott Frost is an interesting name. Native of Nebraska, coaching wide receivers at Oregon. Again, though, no head coaching experience. But would that matter? In addition, he is familiar with the MVC. He was co-DC at UNI before heading to Oregon. He is known as a recruiting wiz at Oregon and is a part of the most dynamic offense in football. Further, he played under some of the best coaches ever. Osborne at UNL (Frost was the best pure option QB they ever had), Monte Kiffin at Tampa Bay. Was smart enough to go to Stanford for two years before returning to Nebraska to play QB.
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