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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 26, 2011 21:05:10 GMT -6
That's the problem with many fans, they are stuck in a D2 mentality. Whether Tressel is a reality or not it's fun to dream a little. I gaurantee Sayler is far more of a visionary than half the people on this board. Thank goodness for that. I swear if some people had their way John Austin would still be coach and we'd have our 10th straight losing season and we'd always be one year away despite another 3-8 record. If this was the NDSU board and they were looking for a head coach at least half of them would truley believe that Tressel could be had for them. Whether true of not is beyond the point. They expect big things and dream big dreams. It's a no wonder they are in a position to make a deep run in the FCS playoffs and where are we but in the midst of a 2-15 FCS road record.
Everyone should be happy that Sayler could actually see past the red goggles and know that we were never going anywhere under Meierkort. I find it amazing what some Coyote fans will accept and what kind of visions they have of where they would like to see this University.
D2 is gone. Breathe deep and say it, "D2 is Gone". Transition is even almost gone. As fans lets start acting like D1 fans.
formeryote, I think you are starting to get into the personal attack territory. Instead of unnecessary jabs I suggest you put some thought into it and tell me what coaches you would like to see at the top of the list and why. Add to the discussion instead of detracting from it.
I have done nothing but put ideas out there. It would be nice if others would follow.
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Post by jackjd on Nov 26, 2011 22:05:30 GMT -6
CF: I'm glad to read you're interested in the Brooklyn Bridge. Before I send details and a proposed Purchase Agreement, I will check with goyotes -- he may be entitled to a finder's fee on the transaction.
You wrote: "I have done nothing but put ideas out there. It would be nice if others would follow." Oh boy...that's a bad sign. I've read you making statements like that in the past and soon your domination of and criticism of the board will once again drive others away.
I think you'll really like the Bridge.
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Nov 26, 2011 22:27:03 GMT -6
The first name was Luke Fickel. That should have told you he is joking. Why? Because Luke Fickel is currently a head coach and if he is not retained as the head coach, he still has his job at Ohio State as a coordinator like he was before.
Also, with all of the baggage Tressell has, that's a no. Not to mention the fact that Stoops can get a job at an FBS program as a coordinator for more money than at USD.
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Post by jman1985 on Nov 26, 2011 23:36:37 GMT -6
FYI, Josh Heupel's salary this season is $330,000. That's a raise from 250K last season.
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Post by notkiotees on Nov 27, 2011 0:12:22 GMT -6
Frank Beamer knows how to win on the road.
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Post by drdank on Nov 27, 2011 10:10:01 GMT -6
Oh Crap!
Coyote Fan is dead on!
You might not like his past passion, but his heart and head are dealing with today. He is throwing out suggestions and solutions.
Those big name head coaches have big upside coordinators who might fit our needs. That's the type of pool Saylor needs to be fishing in, because the Valley is a shark tank.
We've got a lot of players that slipped through the cracks, but we need a consistant stream of studs to keep this thing moving. Do you think the cream of D-I talent would consider a town they never heard of with a D-II or D-III coach they never heard of? We're on the map, but we need to be a destination. Maybe, we initially become a choice layover on the way back to the FBS.
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Post by formeryote on Nov 27, 2011 12:17:36 GMT -6
We should probably hurry up and get an offer out to Urban Meyer before Ohio State does.... I hear Joe Pa is looking for work too-Sure, he may be 85 and have what most would consider "baggage", but we should put him on the short-list.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 27, 2011 13:05:05 GMT -6
We should probably hurry up and get an offer out to Urban Meyer before Ohio State does.... I hear Joe Pa is looking for work too-Sure, he may be 85 and have what most would consider "baggage", but we should put him on the short-list. How about some suggestions What are some of the names on your list? What qualities would you like to have in the next head coach? Basically which head coaches do you personally like and what is the reason that you would like those particular coaches to come to USD?
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Post by jackl on Nov 27, 2011 13:22:33 GMT -6
We should probably hurry up and get an offer out to Urban Meyer before Ohio State does.... I hear Joe Pa is looking for work too-Sure, he may be 85 and have what most would consider "baggage", but we should put him on the short-list. C.F. is so giddy that Ed got axed that he's lost what's left of his mind.
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Post by coyotega on Nov 27, 2011 13:39:09 GMT -6
A D1 head coach does two things. Oversees a dynamic recruiting program, and hires and oversees good assistants. At this level, they also need to be a competent position coach. I think it likely the coach who will be hired is someone we have never heard of, same as David Sayler.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2011 13:53:20 GMT -6
When it comes to these type of jobs, you have to apply before you can be taken serious as a candidate. Wish lists are just that. If SD have already allowed and Joel Nielsen had presented a multi year contract to Ed, you would have to hopeful that this was the last year on that contract and not the first year. With first year, the institution should expect a law suit, if you do not pay off the remaining part of the contract. USD will have to pay from Nov21 to June 30, 2012 as it stands right now, but this is why I do not favor multi year contracts.
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Nov 27, 2011 13:53:24 GMT -6
Coyotefan, we have offered suggestions but every time we mention someone you tell us how that is the wrong choice.
As I have said, I would like a coach with D-I experience, whether it is as a head coach or a coordinator. I would like a talented coordinator too, even if there is no head coaching experience.
I have said my names in past posts. Let's make this a serious thread for once, not the "let's get Luke Fickel" silliness.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 27, 2011 14:10:29 GMT -6
I was actually asking formeryote what he thinks, I already asked that from everyone else. Formeryote like to come in and down everything without coming up with sollutions himself.
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Post by formeryote on Nov 27, 2011 15:49:33 GMT -6
CF - I don't "down everything" as you started - Mainly just stuff that you say based on my perception of your point of view after reading your posts over the years.
I would agree 100% with coyotega that that we as fans will probably have not of heard of who the new head coach will be.... Big world out here with a lot of coaches. I would hope that given the abruptness and timing of this decision that David Sayler already has / had somebody in mind. This isn't something that Saylor woke up one morning and said, let's create some drama today.
CF - I know you weren't a fan of Ed, but one of the biggest losses will be Ed's ability to recruit. Stop for one minute and think of the sell that this guy had to make the last few years as it relates to D-1 transition, post season ineligibility, coaching transitions, the town, the climate, and entering arguably the top FCS conference in the country with the second lowest budget in the conference. A successful head coach has to have the ability to implement a recruiting program that penetrates markets that we've never had a presence in... ED did that. I hope the next head coach can continue to recruit in those markets and recruit new markets.
I also hope that stability in the coordinator positions will be addressed - Ed got into a tailspin of hiring GA's as position coaches and then promoting them to coordinators only to see them move on after one or two years in the position. For most of these guys the world as they new it happened at USD - little or no outside experience. We need to find head coach that brings at least one coordinator with him. Coordinators call the game - Not the head coach.
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Post by dklemme on Nov 27, 2011 17:50:42 GMT -6
Zook and Turner Gill are on the market now too. Gill has success at Buffalo and was in Lincoln. He knows the area and has won before. If he wants to be a header he's worth a look. I don't know what is coordinator experience is right of hand.
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