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Post by Coyote Fan on Sept 7, 2013 22:51:58 GMT -6
I don't really take anything good or bad from the game than what was to normally be expected. As a fan base we need this team to prove to us that they have improved from last season and if they have it certainly isn't much. The passing game is just plain awkward. The receivers don't get open and when they do they drop the passes. Josh is a good running quarterback but I doubt he will ever be a good pocket quarterback. Joe Glenn has decided that through hell or high water that he is going to force this offense to be run by Josh and therefor be an offense that is going to lack being balanced. It's gonna be run, run, run with little to no threat of a real passing game. MVFC defenses are going to be too good for the Yotes to think they can just run it most of the time and not give a real threat to beat them through the air. I think Glenn job security should be somewhat tied to Josh if he continues to start him and if the Coyotes continue to lose. He has had plenty of chances to make a change but for whatever reason I think he would rather go down on the ship with his man than to try other avenues. At this point a 2-6 MVFC record is about what we should expect. As far as being young NDSU won their first national championship being a young football team so that one simply doesn't fly.
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Post by coyotega on Sept 8, 2013 7:50:31 GMT -6
The freshman running backs are both exciting, tough runners. Don't know whether JVM can get it done with the passing game, however. He looks so uncomfortable. Dropped balls don't help that. We need to determine who can and cannot catch game day passes. The punting was a bit of disappointment. Haven't seen the stats, but I expected better. Maybe two good punts out of 5, and that's not a good ratio.
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Post by Cousin Eddie on Sept 8, 2013 8:39:01 GMT -6
It is less a punter issue and more of a long snapper issue. Regardless, special teams improvement needs to be made a priority.
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Post by obc on Sept 8, 2013 12:53:55 GMT -6
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Post by obc on Sept 8, 2013 17:11:58 GMT -6
Maybe some will disagree but I see a team transitioning into what it will take to eventually contend at the top of the MVFC.
1. Much more physical play. Both lines (OL and int DL) are much improved.
2. Defensive physicality and hitting have stepped up a notch this year.
3. An offensive system that will allow USD to move the ball on the ground and control the clock and wear down a defense.
4. Two physical RBs that are interchangeable.
5. Young players at several positions that will continue to grow in strength and experience.
6. A kicker/punter with top end skills
7. JVM is not the most accurate player in the world but if his receivers had helped him at all the past two games he would look much better. His reads on the veer option have been on the money - that is not easy btw.
8. The OL has not jumped offsides once so far this year - anyone that watched last year know that is huge.
9. USD has lost zero fumbles so far (one if you count the punt snap turnover against Davis. Ball security is huge.
10. The defense has caused a forced fumble in each of the first two games.
What is still missing:
1. Receivers that step up and make the catch. In the offensive scheme USD is running they will get a few shots a game and need to make those plays - especially when the ball hits their hands.
2. KO & Punt coverage - look at our avg starting position for offense vs our opponents. The hidden yardage in that area is a game changer.
3. There has to be someone on the roster that can long snap on punts. Someone on the team needs to step up or this alone could cost USD a MVFC game.
After going back and watching the game again on ESPN online - I think the team is getting close.
Go get the Lumberjacks!
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Post by coyotega on Sept 8, 2013 17:37:34 GMT -6
It is less a punter issue and more of a long snapper issue. Regardless, special teams improvement needs to be made a priority. There weren't any long snapper issues yesterday, but there were plenty of punter issues. And I agree that special teams need a lot of work. |
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Post by obc on Sept 8, 2013 17:50:51 GMT -6
It is less a punter issue and more of a long snapper issue. Regardless, special teams improvement needs to be made a priority. There weren't any long snapper issues yesterday, but there were plenty of punter issues. And I agree that special teams need a lot of work. Go back and watch the snaps - there are issues. Two dribblers and two slow snaps. Three were acceptable. |
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Post by azsod73 on Sept 8, 2013 18:30:13 GMT -6
Maybe some will disagree but I see a team transitioning into what it will take to eventually contend at the top of the MVFC. 1. Much more physical play. Both lines (OL and int DL) are much improved. 2. Defensive physicality and hitting have stepped up a notch this year. 3. An offensive system that will allow USD to move the ball on the ground and control the clock and wear down a defense. 4. Two physical RBs that are interchangeable. 5. Young players at several positions that will continue to grow in strength and experience. 6. A kicker/punter with top end skills 7. JVM is not the most accurate player in the world but if his receivers had helped him at all the past two games he would look much better. His reads on the veer option have been on the money - that is not easy btw. 8. The OL has not jumped offsides once so far this year - anyone that watched last year know that is huge. 9. USD has lost zero fumbles so far (one if you count the punt snap turnover against Davis. Ball security is huge. 10. The defense has caused a forced fumble in each of the first two games. What is still missing: 1. Receivers that step up and make the catch. In the offensive scheme USD is running they will get a few shots a game and need to make those plays - especially when the ball hits their hands. 2. KO & Punt coverage - look at our avg starting position for offense vs our opponents. The hidden yardage in that area is a game changer. 3. There has to be someone on the roster that can long snap on punts. Someone on the team needs to step up or this alone could cost USD a MVFC game. After going back and watching the game again on ESPN online - I think the team is getting close. Go get the Lumberjacks! Thanks obc, it is good to hear about the positives and the potential for continued improvement! |
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Post by Cousin Eddie on Sept 8, 2013 19:43:10 GMT -6
It is less a punter issue and more of a long snapper issue. Regardless, special teams improvement needs to be made a priority. There weren't any long snapper issues yesterday, but there were plenty of punter issues. And I agree that special teams need a lot of work. You were't watching the same game I was at then. There were several long snap issue. A couple rollers, bad position and terrible speed. Our guy can kick - he is a freshman and he needs a little help. |
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Post by yoteforever on Sept 9, 2013 6:00:00 GMT -6
There is a major problem with the long snapper. It cost us games last year, and it cost us 10 points the other night at Kansas. Is Kansas better than us? Yes. But not a lot better. That could have been a 4-7 point game without the snapper issues. I'm not blamiming Bouma because he might be the best we have, but if he is, he needs a training session or two with experienced long snappers. My son in law was a long snapper, and it's an art. I think we need to invest in a long snapper, to many college teams ignore this opportunity.
Overall, I was pleased with the effort given at Kansas. That was winnable if we played perfect and didn't have those errors. Our guys played their butts off, so that a good sign. Also a good sign is our defense. They can keep us in games.
Lastly, the last thing I want to do is argue with Coyotefan, but you once again are clammoring for the coach to be fired, or potentially fired. In his 2nd year. You were also wanting Meierkort gone, and you applauded this hire. Chill out on that talk. Let things develop. The fact is we don't have a throwing quarterback, a d when Josh does get it there, our guys drop them. We did against Cal and we did against Kansas. That's the truth of the matter. But please don't start with the firing of coaches talk yet. In fact, don't even bring it up. Wait till Thanksgiving at least.
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Post by bluffrunner on Sept 9, 2013 6:47:02 GMT -6
Wasn't Coach Triplett a long snapper in College?
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Post by 88grad on Sept 9, 2013 8:24:01 GMT -6
Yes he was.
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Post by wylie on Sept 9, 2013 13:08:45 GMT -6
The long snapping is a major concern. We need to recruit a long snapper only, who spends time all practice working with the punter, holder, & kicker. It seems to me that almost all other teams are doing this now. This isn't a 5 minute drill after practice. Unfortunately, I've heard that we didn't recruit snappers who were being recruited by most other D-1 teams in the Dakotas this last year.
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Post by behindtheline on Sept 9, 2013 14:46:58 GMT -6
Just a quick note from a KU guy who was at the game Saturday and knows what its like to try to build a football program. Your team played with real toughness and I really liked those two RS-Fr. running backs. They had no quit in them and just kept coming, continued to drive on contact. You guys know your team better than I do, so I'll say just keep working, it's not a sprint, but a marathon.
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Post by bruceb on Sept 9, 2013 16:22:52 GMT -6
Bravo to behindtheline. I too was at the game. The yotes should leave that one proud. KU has a much deeper roster by nature and we suited up like 61 guys and still flirted with an upset. All the KU fans around me could do all game was to say how much they hated Charley Weis and how the yotes seemed like they (we) had better coaching. Seems like we are on track. Real heart shown in that game and not much fear/intimidation. Let them grow.
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