Kansas v.s. USD Gameday!

[JeremyHoeck]

USD's running game is a legit threat this year....if and when the passing comes around, the offense will really click. Too many drops right now...I'm far from an X and Os guy, but are the WR routes crisp? In the zone read, when the quarterback rolls out, receivers have to be in the right spot. 67 yards through the air aren't going to win you a lot of games...defenses can adjust to the run (even though I like our 2 redshirt freshmen...tough runners)

[Coyote Fan]

Sept 9, 2013 6:00:00 GMT -6 yoteforever said:

There is a major problem with the long snapper. It cost us games last year, and it cost us 10 points the other night at Kansas. Is Kansas better than us? Yes. But not a lot better. That could have been a 4-7 point game without the snapper issues. I'm not blamiming Bouma because he might be the best we have, but if he is, he needs a training session or two with experienced long snappers. My son in law was a long snapper, and it's an art. I think we need to invest in a long snapper, to many college teams ignore this opportunity.

Overall, I was pleased with the effort given at Kansas. That was winnable if we played perfect and didn't have those errors. Our guys played their butts off, so that a good sign. Also a good sign is our defense. They can keep us in games.

Lastly, the last thing I want to do is argue with Coyotefan, but you once again are clammoring for the coach to be fired, or potentially fired. In his 2nd year. You were also wanting Meierkort gone, and you applauded this hire. Chill out on that talk. Let things develop. The fact is we don't have a throwing quarterback, a d when Josh does get it there, our guys drop them. We did against Cal and we did against Kansas. That's the truth of the matter. But please don't start with the firing of coaches talk yet. In fact, don't even bring it up. Wait till Thanksgiving at least.

I did want Meierkort fired and eventually he was which was the right decision. I don't see many people that think he should be back after what has happened since he left the Coyotes. I feel as if Glenn should be measured on wins and losses and so far he doesn't stack up. I am less impressed with what I have seen so far from the Coyote team than most and that might be after some modest improvement. Kansas is not a very good football team so a 31-14 loss is really not a good loss or a very good performance. If the Yotes continue to not show an effective passing game they will struggle to get wins in the MVFC. You can't be one dementional and expect to be a good MVFC team. The other teams are too good to allow USD to simply run the football at them. I think USD may get a win or two against some of the weaker Valley teams this year but I don't see them competing very well against the upper tier conference teams which should be the goal, should it not.

As far as Glenn being hired. I was ok with the hire when it happened but I was not jumping up and down either. The reason because I don't think the hiring process gave all applicants a chance because it appeared the USD admin had tunnel vision towards the hiring. Usually that is not the best way to go about hires. I am very shocked that a team under Joe Glenn has shown so little considering his resume before getting the job. It's fair to ask the question of whether the game has passed Joe by a bit. The team seems to use a very simplistic offense that is not hard to stop by competent D Coordinators at the D1 FCS level. I still think the OC and QB are really holding this program back at the moment. That is my simple opinion which I am entited to just as everyone else is entitled to disagree.

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Sept 9, 2013 22:08:38 GMT -6 Coyote Fan said:

Sept 9, 2013 6:00:00 GMT -6 yoteforever said:

There is a major problem with the long snapper. It cost us games last year, and it cost us 10 points the other night at Kansas. Is Kansas better than us? Yes. But not a lot better. That could have been a 4-7 point game without the snapper issues. I'm not blamiming Bouma because he might be the best we have, but if he is, he needs a training session or two with experienced long snappers. My son in law was a long snapper, and it's an art. I think we need to invest in a long snapper, to many college teams ignore this opportunity.

Overall, I was pleased with the effort given at Kansas. That was winnable if we played perfect and didn't have those errors. Our guys played their butts off, so that a good sign. Also a good sign is our defense. They can keep us in games.

Lastly, the last thing I want to do is argue with Coyotefan, but you once again are clammoring for the coach to be fired, or potentially fired. In his 2nd year. You were also wanting Meierkort gone, and you applauded this hire. Chill out on that talk. Let things develop. The fact is we don't have a throwing quarterback, a d when Josh does get it there, our guys drop them. We did against Cal and we did against Kansas. That's the truth of the matter. But please don't start with the firing of coaches talk yet. In fact, don't even bring it up. Wait till Thanksgiving at least.

I did want Meierkort fired and eventually he was which was the right decision. I don't see many people that think he should be back after what has happened since he left the Coyotes. I feel as if Glenn should be measured on wins and losses and so far he doesn't stack up. I am less impressed with what I have seen so far from the Coyote team than most and that might be after some modest improvement. Kansas is not a very good football team so a 31-14 loss is really not a good loss or a very good performance. If the Yotes continue to not show an effective passing game they will struggle to get wins in the MVFC. You can't be one dementional and expect to be a good MVFC team. The other teams are too good to allow USD to simply run the football at them. I think USD may get a win or two against some of the weaker Valley teams this year but I don't see them competing very well against the upper tier conference teams which should be the goal, should it not.

As far as Glenn being hired. I was ok with the hire when it happened but I was not jumping up and down either. The reason because I don't think the hiring process gave all applicants a chance because it appeared the USD admin had tunnel vision towards the hiring. Usually that is not the best way to go about hires. I am very shocked that a team under Joe Glenn has shown so little considering his resume before getting the job. It's fair to ask the question of whether the game has passed Joe by a bit. The team seems to use a very simplistic offense that is not hard to stop by competent D Coordinators at the D1 FCS level. I still think the OC and QB are really holding this program back at the moment. That is my simple opinion which I am entited to just as everyone else is entitled to disagree.

This is comical at best. USD lost 21? seniors and Glenn had to come in and clean house and kick another 15 or so out of the program. You don't see the big picture at all. It's not going to get better overnight.

[canislatrans]

Sept 9, 2013 22:41:46 GMT -6 SDSUAlum08 said:

Sept 9, 2013 22:08:38 GMT -6 Coyote Fan said:

I did want Meierkort fired and eventually he was which was the right decision. I don't see many people that think he should be back after what has happened since he left the Coyotes. I feel as if Glenn should be measured on wins and losses and so far he doesn't stack up. I am less impressed with what I have seen so far from the Coyote team than most and that might be after some modest improvement. Kansas is not a very good football team so a 31-14 loss is really not a good loss or a very good performance. If the Yotes continue to not show an effective passing game they will struggle to get wins in the MVFC. You can't be one dementional and expect to be a good MVFC team. The other teams are too good to allow USD to simply run the football at them. I think USD may get a win or two against some of the weaker Valley teams this year but I don't see them competing very well against the upper tier conference teams which should be the goal, should it not.

As far as Glenn being hired. I was ok with the hire when it happened but I was not jumping up and down either. The reason because I don't think the hiring process gave all applicants a chance because it appeared the USD admin had tunnel vision towards the hiring. Usually that is not the best way to go about hires. I am very shocked that a team under Joe Glenn has shown so little considering his resume before getting the job. It's fair to ask the question of whether the game has passed Joe by a bit. The team seems to use a very simplistic offense that is not hard to stop by competent D Coordinators at the D1 FCS level. I still think the OC and QB are really holding this program back at the moment. That is my simple opinion which I am entited to just as everyone else is entitled to disagree.

This is comical at best. USD lost 21? seniors and Glenn had to come in and clean house and kick another 15 or so out of the program. You don't see the big picture at all. It's not going to get better overnight.

It's getting better already, thanks to Coach Glenn! This Valley season is going to be fun!

[usdguy99]

Some of it comes down to the Offensive Coordinator, who is in over his head....in my opinion

[wylie]

I agree with Yoteforever, I simply can't understand how a Division I program could not have a recruited long snapper ready to go. Nebraska went out and got a true freshmen who is successfully snapping. I'm sure there are others and a scholarship is worth the investment - last season and this season have shown that already.

[obc]

Being able to run the ball consistently is a must. The coaching staff has obviously put a great deal of energy into that project.

In 2012 against teams that dominated the Coyotes - the rushing yardage was dismal. Where USD had success (even against good teams) they were able to run the ball some.

2012 rushing yards by the Yotes


vs Montana 61 yds
vs Colgate. 238 yds
vs Northwestern. 51 yds
vs Illinois St. 193 yds
vs W Illinois 114 yds
vs Missouri St 211 yds
vs NDSU. 17 yds
vs Indiana St. 100 yds
vs Northern Iowa. 195 yds
vs SDSU. 22 yds

So far in 2013

vs UC Davis 195 yds
vs Kansas 219 yds
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BTW in 2012 SDSU rushed for 182 yds against UC Davis and 204 against Kansas

USD is making progress and if it continues to improve will be in position to surprise some teams this year.

[pack12]

In my opinion, VM is one of the best athletes on this team. So why don't they try him in a WR role and put him all over the field to use his skills to the fullest. It would kind of be like the role that Blount played a couple of years ago. With Earl at QB, VM out there with Terry and the 2 young running backs we have I think it would open up the offense tremendously and maybe we would see defenses take 8 out of the box for once and respect our passing game a little more.

[Yote 53]

JVM is fine in the position where he is at. Does he need to work on his accuracy? Sure. But his receivers need to help him out a little more and not drop catchable balls. There is a reason the KU announcers on ESPN3 were all over JVM, because he is a threat at QB. JVM is not a pocket passer. He is more of a running (threat) quarterback. Honestly, reminds me a lot of Scott Frost or Taylor Martinez from Nebraska.

[Cousin Eddie]

If we were to move JVM from OB to WR, we would immediately lose the actual threat of the threat of the zone read, which has worked very well for us. JMV needs to continue to work hard with his passing. I think his footwork is still terrible. That being said, as Yote 53 noted, our WRs have got to give him a little help. Their showing has been almost as bad as special teams. Also, although our OL is doing great work in the running game, their pass blocking still leaves something to be desired.

I will go back to this time after time, we need progress this year. We are not winning the MVFC with our present roster even if Nick Saban is the head coach. It will be vital for Glenn and Co. to prove that they can improve each week and the measuring stick or "line in the sand" will be whether they can get to four or more wins. I think anything less than 4 wins is probably a concession that this experiment is not working. Regardless, although I was high on Wesley at one time, I continue to move into the camp that believes he may not be the right guy for the OC job. I hope he proves me wrong.

[golfingyote]

Sept 11, 2013 8:25:03 GMT -6 Cousin Eddie said:

If we were to move JVM from OB to WR, we would immediately lose the actual threat of the threat of the zone read, which has worked very well for us. JMV needs to continue to work hard with his passing. I think his footwork is still terrible. That being said, as Yote 53 noted, our WRs have got to give him a little help. Their showing has been almost as bad as special teams. Also, although our OL is doing great work in the running game, their pass blocking still leaves something to be desired.

I will go back to this time after time, we need progress this year. We are not winning the MVFC with our present roster even if Nick Saban is the head coach. It will be vital for Glenn and Co. to prove that they can improve each week and the measuring stick or "line in the sand" will be whether they can get to four or more wins. I think anything less than 4 wins is probably a concession that this experiment is not working. Regardless, although I was high on Wesley at one time, I continue to move into the camp that believes he may not be the right guy for the OC job. I hope he proves me wrong.

I have to agree on Wes. Everyone raved about him when we had Dante and how great of game he called for the offense. JVM is not Dante Warren, and our play calling has been quite questionable at times these first 2 games, as well as in some clsoer games last year (Missouri State). Early in the KU game we were getting 4-7 yards a run from the bruise bros. In a game like that, you run the ball until they prove they can stop you. I just remember there being a 3rd and 2 or 3 where we dropped JVM back in the shotgun. Furstrating to watch.

[canislatrans]

It is obvious that improvement in the passing game would be a big lift for the Coyotes. (I think winning 2/3 Valley games vs. 4/5 games is dependent upon how much the passing game improves.)
JVM is not a great passer, I'll give you that. However, watching the past 2 games and some highlights from last year, JVM is a huge weapon for the Yotes, perhaps our best weapon offensively. Hopefully, his passing accuracy will improve like the rest of his games has from last year, I'm willing to wait. I think the bigger part of our passing game is the performance of our WRs and play-calling. The WRs that supplement Terry, are a work in progress. Koch, though a SR, is still playing first regular games without injury. The other WRs are Freshmen, or RS Freshmen, and a converted QB. They too need experience, and all we can do at this point is wait until they get it. Our hope is that it happens during the course of this year. I do not know enough to comment on Wesley as OC, other than I have been very impressed with how the offense has changed it up this year, and the success in the OL, running game, and read option. I think we need to pass more, and perhaps pass occassionally from a pro style with more than one option for the QB to throw to. That, in my opinion, would help the QB and the WRs mature more quickly in the passing game, by involving them more.