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Post by azsod73 on Sept 24, 2013 10:07:02 GMT -6
CF's analysis doesn't get the big picture for USD. One recruiting class isn't enough time to see results. It should take 3 and then you'll probably see a jump in production; however, you'll probably see it next year. As for Vandenberg? (your QB), I caught the second half on Saturday and that kid competes. He's playing his ass off. Is he truly a QB? Probably not. You can just tell from watching him throw. But you have to tip your cap to him for playing as hard as he does. He's USDs best option and hopefully he can take that next step forward. He's definitely getting better. Your team just needs to develop some depth and get older. Good comments, appreciate your contribution.
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Post by canislatrans on Sept 24, 2013 19:01:27 GMT -6
I have a preference to pocket passers, pro-style, with a good running game. That being said, I can clearly see that JVM is the best offensive weapon the Coyotes have right now. Just look at the numbers. I watched and listened to the Kansas and NAU broadcasts (I was having internet problems picking up the Yotes announcers), they were raving about JVM, his toughness, decision-making and his all-around athleticism. By their nature, running QBs have difficulty in the passing game, because they take a beating running the ball and they don't throw as often. I think the Coyotes success in the MVFC this year will be dependent on how much they can change that equation. I believe in their offensive scheme, however, they will need to pass more often to 1)keep the defense honest, 2)allow their QB and WRs to develop. Positives on that front in the 2nd half: Meyer is looking like another option at WR; JVM made some nice throws.
Also, it's nice to see Lage, Johnson (Wessel, Mertlik) making plays at LB, it sure frees up Tyler Starr to wreak havoc! What a night he had!
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Post by Coyote Fan on Sept 24, 2013 22:51:17 GMT -6
CF's analysis doesn't get the big picture for USD. One recruiting class isn't enough time to see results. It should take 3 and then you'll probably see a jump in production; however, you'll probably see it next year. As for Vandenberg? (your QB), I caught the second half on Saturday and that kid competes. He's playing his ass off. Is he truly a QB? Probably not. You can just tell from watching him throw. But you have to tip your cap to him for playing as hard as he does. He's USDs best option and hopefully he can take that next step forward. He's definitely getting better. Your team just needs to develop some depth and get older. If the big picture is Glenn being here 3-5 years and for Wes to take over at that time than I definitely don't "get" or "agree with" the big picture. Many will disagree but a good head coach can take the players that he has and get the most out of them and mold their game plans around the players they have. A good head coach can generally have a positive impact in his first year but for sure in their second. That didn't happen with Glenn and the jury is still out on year 2. Part of making an impact is to make good off season decisions with personell and coaching and I also don't think that happened. My opinion is that we really don't know where this era is Coyote football is heading but there isn't anything substancial that we have seen on the field that makes one really think USD will be a true contender in the MVFC anytime soon. The good news is that the defense appears to have taken a step forward this year. I think by having Petrino someone that was hired to be a D1 assistant has helped that side of the ball. The defense is where a lot of the youth is as well and they are ahead of a more experienced offense. That lends one to believe that Wes is in over his head. I think we will see a lot of 21-10 type losses in the Valley this year. The offense just doesn't look to be on track. I would have more optimism if we hired a true D1 OC, hired a different Special Teams Coordinator and went in a new direction at QB. I would have a much different outlook with the team had (or hopefully will) that happened already. I bought my season tickets this year so I don't want to hear anyone say that I have given up completely or don't care because I put enough faith in the program to make a commitment to go to every home game.
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Post by Yotes on Sept 25, 2013 2:38:06 GMT -6
CF's analysis doesn't get the big picture for USD. One recruiting class isn't enough time to see results. It should take 3 and then you'll probably see a jump in production; however, you'll probably see it next year. As for Vandenberg? (your QB), I caught the second half on Saturday and that kid competes. He's playing his ass off. Is he truly a QB? Probably not. You can just tell from watching him throw. But you have to tip your cap to him for playing as hard as he does. He's USDs best option and hopefully he can take that next step forward. He's definitely getting better. Your team just needs to develop some depth and get older. If the big picture is Glenn being here 3-5 years and for Wes to take over at that time than I definitely don't "get" or "agree with" the big picture. Many will disagree but a good head coach can take the players that he has and get the most out of them and mold their game plans around the players they have. A good head coach can generally have a positive impact in his first year but for sure in their second. That didn't happen with Glenn and the jury is still out on year 2. Part of making an impact is to make good off season decisions with personell and coaching and I also don't think that happened. My opinion is that we really don't know where this era is Coyote football is heading but there isn't anything substancial that we have seen on the field that makes one really think USD will be a true contender in the MVFC anytime soon. If we had played in the Great West again last season you would have seen Glenn win it, and you'd be raving about the impact he made on USD. Truth is, he cleaned house, redshirted the recruiting class full of players who are now making an impact, and switched to the toughest FCS conference. It's not like last year was hopeless anyways, half our conference games were lost by a field goal. Building a football program does not happen overnight, or even in a couple years. But here you are, three (arguably successful, mind you) games into the second season calling for change. Who do you think we are going to get to replace Glenn anyways? Improvement has already been shown this year, and will continue to show itself throughout the season, and then hopefully into the future. Patience. If after year 4 or 5 we don't have a winning program then change may be warranted. 1 win last year, surely at least a few wins this year, things are pointed up. Where is anyone even implying that Glenn will be here 3-5 years and then Wesley is taking over? First I've heard of it. Sounds like you're just trying to find things to get worked up about.
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Post by sdyotefan on Sept 25, 2013 8:44:56 GMT -6
Give it up CF--you're wrong and on that everyone agrees! The program is definitely headed in the right direction! 12345678 and others are right that it takes awhile to develop a top competitive program in a much tougher conference! You're like a lot of casual fans thinking wins is the only measurement. Actually it depends on who you're playing and WHO you beat. Nebraska is an example--they've played a very soft non-conference schedule for years and that shows when they play top quality teams!
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Post by 88grad on Sept 25, 2013 12:33:32 GMT -6
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Post by Coyote Fan on Sept 25, 2013 15:23:49 GMT -6
Give it up CF--you're wrong and on that everyone agrees! The program is definitely headed in the right direction! 12345678 and others are right that it takes awhile to develop a top competitive program in a much tougher conference! You're like a lot of casual fans thinking wins is the only measurement. Actually it depends on who you're playing and WHO you beat. Nebraska is an example--they've played a very soft non-conference schedule for years and that shows when they play top quality teams! It's kind of funny that "The program is headed in the right direction" is a phrase that is only used for bad football programs because programs that are truly headed in the right direction are already there for the most part. If the Yotes finish 2-10 this year than they are indeed heading in the right direction, problem is the starting point was so low that going in the right direction is practically the only direction. The good thing is that there are plenty of games remaining to find out if we really are heading in the right direction.
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Post by sd4life on Sept 25, 2013 17:10:46 GMT -6
Joe Glenn is a good coach. Let's be honest, the team he inherited wasn't stacked with great players. He's doing better than most coaches would.
I have heard the rumor that he is here to help groom WB (never heard 3-5 years though). If that's the plan, I don't like it. I dont' think WB is a D1 coach.
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Post by Yotes on Sept 25, 2013 20:21:04 GMT -6
Joe Glenn is a good coach. Let's be honest, the team he inherited wasn't stacked with great players. He's doing better than most coaches would. I have heard the rumor that he is here to help groom WB (never heard 3-5 years though). If that's the plan, I don't like it. I dont' think WB is a D1 coach. The associate head coach label they gave Wes gives some credence to that (I've never heard of such a title), but I highly doubt Glenn would come in to groom a coach.
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