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Post by azsod73 on Nov 3, 2013 16:20:10 GMT -6
My takes on the game: A very entertaining game with a great atmosphere. Would have been even better with a full house. What a great way to spend a Saturday afternoon. Youngstown offensive line was the difference in the game. Our blitzes were well timed are led to some poor decisions by their QB, but overall QB had to much time to pass. When we overplayed the pass, they would gash us with the run. Should have utilized Riley Donovan more on offense. He has that "it" factor. On a related note, sure would be nice to have had Will around for one more year. Glad to see the kicking game improvements. However, our kick coverage team kept leaving the left side wide open. I thought the offense for the most part had pretty good play calling. But like someone else pointed our earlier, I didn't like the fade route to JVM at the 2 minute mark. Almost looked like YSU let Roberts score on the following play. Ended up leaving too much time on the clock for YSU's game winning drive. I agree with some of the earlier comments about some questionable moving of the chains by the officials. The skeptical part of me wonders with ESPN3 broadcasting the game, did they pressure the officials to keep the game moving. The Penguins offense was very good. About the only thing that stopped them in the second half was their conservative play calling after they got the lead. Pros needed to be updated, but damn, Howlers sure ruined the place. Based on the fans I saw at the game and most comments on the Penquins' message board, a good and knowledgeable fan base. lol What in the hell are you laughing about? Your under performing bunnies have already peed their spectacular season down their yellow legs. |
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Post by obc on Nov 3, 2013 17:15:57 GMT -6
Just finished watching the replay. YSU is a fantastic offense. Shows you how good they were to overcome a three turnover deficit.
To win that game we needed to win the turnover battle, not make a huge special teams error, and play a penalty free game for the most part. I would say of those three USD accomplished one and a half. Turnover battle went to USD. Those were all forced turnovers by USD and not sloppy gimme fumbles. Great job there by the defense.
Too many yards were given up on kick returns and punt returns. We have the speed and athletes on our team to be better than that - just takes discipline to stay in your lanes to be in position to make a play. USD lost the penalty battle. The illegal procedure penalties were costly killing drives resulting in punts or FG attempts versus TDs. Late in the game USD was called for holding on a 40+ yd run by Roberts. Watching the replay the hold was obvious and definitely was a factor in that runs success. With the right technique however the guilty OL could have easily made the block legally. That was a killer. USD ended up punting that drive.
Another missed opportunity was the drive prior to that - JVM was two yards behind the deepest YSU DB and just missed on an Earl pass that I think goes for six unless JVM gets run down from behind with a two yard head start. USD ended up punting that drive too.
The OL did do many things well during the game but the penalties are all mental or technique related. It is a lot to ask and probably unrealistic to ask for perfection in the penalty department, but it would have taken near that to get the win IMO.
Bouma and Roberts are as tough as they come. When I saw Roberts injury in person it looked bad. Check it out on TV - it was even worse than I thought. Cannot believe he was back out there and playing like he was.
Earl is making good decisions. Two throws he made were high risk and could have been picked. Other than that he was fantastic. The wildcat package (I think the team is calling it the Yote package) with JVM as QB that the offense came out running the second series of the second half combined with no-huddle hurry up offense was brilliant. They ended up getting out of rhythm with that when an OL jumped offsides. That penalty didn't end up hurting though, still got a TD to cap that drive.
Wes is calling a good game and using the tools at his disposal more and more. Great job by the receivers and TEs.
Have to give our young kicker credit. He nailed all his FG attempts and xpt attempts. His punts were also clean and provided good hang time. Wish he had a little more leg to drive some touchback s with our poor coverage.
If YSU doesn't turn the ball over they will give NDSU a heck of a game in two weeks. If the weather in Youngstown is not really windy or rainy and they can air it out, I would think they will beat SDSU.
Let's hope our dinged up players heal up a little bit this week - Montana will be another battering ram type game.
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Post by Yote 53 on Nov 3, 2013 19:08:43 GMT -6
To answer a previous question, I was sitting right in front of the TV timeout guy. I could hear every word he was saying into his headset. Yes, they were trying to keep the game moving along. I don't think that had anything to do with the final drive but there was a lot of discussion about momentum and how they can't interrupt momentum a team has.
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Post by Yotes on Nov 3, 2013 19:42:53 GMT -6
Bouma and Roberts are as tough as they come. When I saw Roberts injury in person it looked bad. Check it out on TV - it was even worse than I thought. Cannot believe he was back out there and playing like he was. I saw Roberts over in Coyote Village today, and he looked very tender and slow moving. I too can't believe he came back in and even scored a touchdown. Just what I love though, tough kids fighting through anything to help the team. Those two backs are going to have great careers here, and I can't even imagine next year when we'll have Sanders and Kilgore available too. YSU was the better team yesterday, we gave them all we could and they still came away with the slim win. I do hope our team plays up to their potential next week, because Montana is a very winnable game if we execute. |
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Post by coyote70 on Nov 3, 2013 22:00:10 GMT -6
If I was the coach, I'm going to burn a redshirt at the RB position if it means we have a better chance of winning against any of the foes we have remaining. Of course, I don't know how banged up we are at this position, but it sounds like a concern.
Does anyone else have an opinion on this?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2013 22:30:30 GMT -6
What in the hell are you laughing about? Your under performing bunnies have already peed their spectacular season down their yellow legs. SDSU is still a top 25 team in the FCS and have a chance to make the playoffs unlike the yotes.....usd is playing spoiler for the rest of the season yet again. |
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Post by Iceman on Nov 4, 2013 0:11:42 GMT -6
I was driving down the highway on the critical final series, and JVG's call on the radio noted that they were 2 yards shy of a first down. Within seconds, he corrected the call and seemed confused as to why the refs signaled first down when it appeared they weren't even close. What the heck happened on that play? I assume it was an obvious error since it has been called out in multiple posts. What happened was Youngstown was driving the ball to win and they had a big third down play. Pass it to a receiver, he gets hit and spins and goes down a GOOD two yards short of the first down. Ref on the near sideline, I swear before anyone blows a whistle or anything, is motioning to move the sticks for the first down. Then I don't know if many see the spot of the ball, but it was behind where the first down line would have been. What a joke. Yoteforever, you are also right on how terrible the reffing crews are in this league, as well as the illegal substitution. That was a bunch of crap as well. |
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Post by obc on Nov 4, 2013 3:56:29 GMT -6
I was driving down the highway on the critical final series, and JVG's call on the radio noted that they were 2 yards shy of a first down. Within seconds, he corrected the call and seemed confused as to why the refs signaled first down when it appeared they weren't even close. What the heck happened on that play? I assume it was an obvious error since it has been called out in multiple posts. What happened was Youngstown was driving the ball to win and they had a big third down play. Pass it to a receiver, he gets hit and spins and goes down a GOOD two yards short of the first down. Ref on the near sideline, I swear before anyone blows a whistle or anything, is motioning to move the sticks for the first down. Then I don't know if many see the spot of the ball, but it was behind where the first down line would have been. What a joke. Yoteforever, you are also right on how terrible the reffing crews are in this league, as well as the illegal substitution. That was a bunch of crap as well. Joe Glenn mentioned on the Coyote Report radio show two weeks ago that the MVFC is considering official replay reviews possibly as early as two seasons from now. Each school has to agree as it is an added cost with required minimum camera equipment. Perhaps that will help at least some of the calls and bring a little more accountability to these glaring issues - every week there are huge blown calls and it is disruptive for both teams and takes away from the product on the field. |
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Post by Yotes on Nov 4, 2013 4:21:25 GMT -6
What in the hell are you laughing about? Your under performing bunnies have already peed their spectacular season down their yellow legs. SDSU is still a top 25 team in the FCS and have a chance to make the playoffs unlike the yotes.....usd is playing spoiler for the rest of the season yet again. You're reaching. Pass us in the conference standings before you mention playoffs. |
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Post by yoteforever on Nov 4, 2013 8:21:10 GMT -6
What in the hell are you laughing about? Your under performing bunnies have already peed their spectacular season down their yellow legs. SDSU is still a top 25 team in the FCS and have a chance to make the playoffs unlike the yotes.....usd is playing spoiler for the rest of the season yet again. The last I looked you were looking at our butts in the standings. I so look forward to an overconfident State team coming to Vermillion in 12 days. The tone has changed from last year, I know that. And you damn well know you are in for the fight of your lives. You don't play really well, you'll get beat. I'd say we can't win out, but I will say we will win 1-2 of our last three. Doesn't bode well for you. |
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Post by canislatrans on Nov 4, 2013 9:03:20 GMT -6
What in the hell are you laughing about? Your under performing bunnies have already peed their spectacular season down their yellow legs. SDSU is still a top 25 team in the FCS and have a chance to make the playoffs unlike the yotes.....usd is playing spoiler for the rest of the season yet again. That's about as funny as those P*** yellow uniforms you've been sporting! And 3-5 in the Valley is not making the playoffs. Wake Up! |
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Post by azsod73 on Nov 4, 2013 9:26:57 GMT -6
If I was the coach, I'm going to burn a redshirt at the RB position if it means we have a better chance of winning against any of the foes we have remaining. Of course, I don't know how banged up we are at this position, but it sounds like a concern. Does anyone else have an opinion on this? I would tend to agree with your point. That said, I don't know if of K. Kilgore is 100% and could come in and make a major contribution. |
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Post by formeryote on Nov 4, 2013 10:10:53 GMT -6
In comparison to last year at this time, they’ve made great strides. Disappointing finish, but a good game. Hats off to Joe Glenn.
I’m not trying to be critical either, but the special teams play is costing them games. Missed fg’s, botched snaps, shanked punts, poor coverage… The field position in general… It really puts your defense at a disadvantage. It’s hard enough to defend against a team like Youngstown, but if you put their offense in positions to succeed….Forget about it.
Three phases of the game – Offense, defense & special teams. Special teams is clearly lagging.
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Post by yoteforever on Nov 4, 2013 10:16:06 GMT -6
There was definitely bad officiating on BOTH sides of the ball and heart-breaking losses are the toughest to take.Turnovers were an important factor in keeping this one a nail-biter and to me they all looked to be caused by the aggressive Yotes defense.Hopefully the real Bo Pelini roots for YSU--(he is from Youngstown and graduated from the high school I attended.) Dave, I'm not arguing with you, but what calls did you feel went against YSU? I went back and watched the film and I don't see anything but I might be color blind. That moving the chain and being 2 yards short is something the MVC has to address. |
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Post by Yote 53 on Nov 4, 2013 10:21:06 GMT -6
Agree on the special teams. It seemed like we were consistently starting behind the 25 for our drives while YSU was generally starting around mid-field. It makes a huge difference.
On the good side, we had no botched snaps and converted our FG/EP attempts while YSU had issues with their snaps on their EP attempts.
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