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Post by usdguy99 on Nov 16, 2013 16:37:48 GMT -6
After watching and/or listening to the games this year, I really think there has to be some coaching changes made after the season. I know and appreciate that Coach Glenn is a very loyal guy, but even loyalty can only go so far. Coach Glenn is a great coach and it is clear that he has our program moving in the right direction, but the progress is being held back by some of his coordinators. I truly believe that Wes and Triplett need to go. I understand that both of these guys bleed Coyote red, but their play calling and/or coaching have cost us some victories this season. I gave Wes the benefit of the doubt last year, but this was his year to show that he belongs in the big leagues and he failed miserably. Do I even need to give any reasons for Triplett?
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Post by Yotes on Nov 16, 2013 16:46:57 GMT -6
Fire Joe Glenn!
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Post by usdfan1 on Nov 16, 2013 16:59:15 GMT -6
After watching and/or listening to the games this year, I really think there has to be some coaching changes made after the season. I know and appreciate that Coach Glenn is a very loyal guy, but even loyalty can only go so far. Coach Glenn is a great coach and it is clear that he has our program moving in the right direction, but the progress is being held back by some of his coordinators. I truly believe that Wes and Triplett need to go. I understand that both of these guys bleed Coyote red, but their play calling and/or coaching have cost us some victories this season. I gave Wes the benefit of the doubt last year, but this was his year to show that he belongs in the big leagues and he failed miserably. Do I even need to give any reasons for Triplett? I personally disagree but respect your opinion. My question is how can you say that "Glenn has the program moving in the right direction" and then blame others? Isn't Glenn the person who hires the coaching staff? It is always the easy armchair QB thing to do (fire the coach) when things don't turn out the way you want, but it really isn't as easy as replacing 1 or 2 people and win the conference. I can conceive the idea that you don't like some play calls, but unless you are at practice all week/year, it would be tough to blame the way someone coaches his players. |
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Post by bopelini on Nov 16, 2013 20:42:00 GMT -6
After watching and/or listening to the games this year, I really think there has to be some coaching changes made after the season. I know and appreciate that Coach Glenn is a very loyal guy, but even loyalty can only go so far. Coach Glenn is a great coach and it is clear that he has our program moving in the right direction, but the progress is being held back by some of his coordinators. I truly believe that Wes and Triplett need to go. I understand that both of these guys bleed Coyote red, but their play calling and/or coaching have cost us some victories this season. I gave Wes the benefit of the doubt last year, but this was his year to show that he belongs in the big leagues and he failed miserably. Do I even need to give any reasons for Triplett? Agreed! With the debacle (and I think that is being kind) that was Special Teams this year, there really isn't much else to say about how to grade the performance of Triplett. I also agree that we are getting dominated at Offensive Coordinator. Play calling is ridiculously predictable. How many series' do we have to go Iso, Iso, Screen, Punt? While I know that Wes was the master of throwing the fade route to guys like Chris Mikkelson and Desmond Allison, it is clearly not working with our past or current personnel. Please stop making that play call. I don't have the data in front of me at the moment, but I believe our Red Zone touchdown percentage may have been less than 50% this season. If not, it was damn close. That may have been this teams biggest failure, even over penalties and every phase of Special Teams. |
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Post by Iceman on Nov 17, 2013 0:36:37 GMT -6
After watching and/or listening to the games this year, I really think there has to be some coaching changes made after the season. I know and appreciate that Coach Glenn is a very loyal guy, but even loyalty can only go so far. Coach Glenn is a great coach and it is clear that he has our program moving in the right direction, but the progress is being held back by some of his coordinators. I truly believe that Wes and Triplett need to go. I understand that both of these guys bleed Coyote red, but their play calling and/or coaching have cost us some victories this season. I gave Wes the benefit of the doubt last year, but this was his year to show that he belongs in the big leagues and he failed miserably. Do I even need to give any reasons for Triplett? Agreed! With the debacle (and I think that is being kind) that was Special Teams this year, there really isn't much else to say about how to grade the performance of Triplett. I also agree that we are getting dominated at Offensive Coordinator. Play calling is ridiculously predictable. How many series' do we have to go Iso, Iso, Screen, Punt? While I know that Wes was the master of throwing the fade route to guys like Chris Mikkelson and Desmond Allison, it is clearly not working with our past or current personnel. Please stop making that play call. I don't have the data in front of me at the moment, but I believe our Red Zone touchdown percentage may have been less than 50% this season. If not, it was damn close. That may have been this teams biggest failure, even over penalties and every phase of Special Teams. Agreed with the play callig. Way too predictable. In the fourth quarter today, we go way down field what two plays in a row? Why? Didn't have to yet. Or how about the little QB draw late in the game on first down that went nowhere. Come on! |
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Post by coyotega on Nov 17, 2013 7:10:15 GMT -6
"Isn't Glenn the person who hires the coaching staff?"
Yes, and he hasn't done a very good job imo. He knows that experience provides skill, but perhaps due to budgets, he keeps folks who are very inexperienced or otherwise not up to the job.
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Post by sdyotefan on Nov 17, 2013 7:25:00 GMT -6
IMO most of the above comments are a BIG over reaction to coaching decisions after three extremely close, tough losses to three top 25 teams! I think some credit has to go to the offenses and defenses we've played against recently like it or not! In the last two games it was amazing that our offense could even hang close given our banged up running back situation. The program IS headed in the right direction so there is no need for any wholesale coaching changes!!
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Post by usdfan1 on Nov 17, 2013 8:15:45 GMT -6
IMO most of the above comments are a BIG over reaction to coaching decisions after three extremely close, tough losses to three top 25 teams! I think some credit has to go to the offenses and defenses we've played against recently like it or not! In the last two games it was amazing that our offense could even hang close given our banged up running back situation. The program IS headed in the right direction so there is no need for any wholesale coaching changes!! I absolutely agree! |
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Post by sd4life on Nov 17, 2013 12:45:29 GMT -6
My feelings aren't just because of the past few games. It's over the last few years. Wes is in over his head. He's not the right person.
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Post by teamsd on Nov 17, 2013 21:15:53 GMT -6
You've gotta be kidding me. |
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Post by Iceman on Nov 18, 2013 0:55:03 GMT -6
"Isn't Glenn the person who hires the coaching staff?" Yes, and he hasn't done a very good job imo. He knows that experience provides skill, but perhaps due to budgets, he keeps folks who are very inexperienced or otherwise not up to the job. I think a lot of it has to do with budgets and the old one year contracts. I don't think he has a whole lot of money to spread around to the whole coaching staff and then if he might get someone interested, all of a sudden they hear we have one year contracts? I think that has a lot to do with it. If you were a coach from somewhere else, would you really be excited to pick up everything and leave to come for a one year contract? I would guess that has to be a factor. |
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Post by golfingyote on Nov 18, 2013 8:22:10 GMT -6
I will have to join those who are not fans of Wesley's playcalling. He is quite predictable and makes some really just awful calls in close games. There was a QB draw call on 1st and 10 late Saturday that blew my mind. If he does stay on, I hope JG becomes more involved with play calls when the game is on the line because Wes simply is not getting it done, and I really dont see Glen letting him go.
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Post by canislatrans on Nov 18, 2013 9:30:04 GMT -6
Count me as one who appreciates Wes as OC. I thought that he did a good job with the pistol when JVM was at QB, using the new RBs, swing passes to keep the defense guessing. The one deficiency was hitting the long pass consistently, to keep the defense from coming in tight for the run and short pass. Once, Earl was inserted, I saw a whole new side to the offensive plan, utilizing a pocket passer and a good set of RBs and some rising WRs to create a really good offense. You saw in the State game, and in most others plays where guys were wide open for big gains, set up by good play calling. Too bad we missed a couple of those passes, but in my opinion it was more often an error in execution than design. I would love to see the offense next year under Wes' leadership, I think he deserves it.
The Special Teams is an area that obviously needs improvement, I don't know where the fault lies exactly, if it's coaching, recruiting, practice, but it does need a fix.
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Post by Cousin Eddie on Nov 18, 2013 16:00:05 GMT -6
When you are forced to roll out two RBs that can hardly walk, a former QB and a FB to fill the tailback position, I don't think it is fair to blame the coaching for the offense's performance. I have my issues with Wes, but his play calling was not to blame for that loss. Let's face it, before the pick-6 everybody in the building was puckered up waiting to see if the Yotes could tie the game. I won't say his play calling is perfect, because it isn't. But, I have been happy with the results since Earl took over at QB. I am far more concerned with Special Teams - this needs to be corrected immediately, regardless of the necessary course of action.
How anybody can watch this season and say that we haven't made significant strides is beyond me. We will end up 4-8, but that includes three 4th quarter loses to (now) #18 Youngstown State, #6 Montana, and #17 SDSU by a collective total of 23 pts. (15 from SDSU). Our other loses come from #12 N. Arizona, FBS Kansas, and Western Illinois - all pre-QB change, a Southern Illinois loss that stunk and an inevitable loss to #1 NDSU (soon to be 3 time National Champions).
Next year our offense will contain the following:
QB - Earl (JR), Saeger (SO), Ramsey (RS FR)
RB - Sanders (SR), Bouma (SO), Roberts (SO), Kilgore (FR)
FB - Potter (SO, Manning (SR)
WR - Terry (SR), JMV (SR), Donovan (SO), Meyer (JR), Graham (SO)
TE - Barkley (JR), Miller (SO)
OL - By my count there are 3 seniors leaving - and that is deceiving because Murtha backs up Nelson at LG.
On defense you lose Starr (major loss), Emilious Davis, and the starters at DB (also huge). However, you have DBs in Foster(FR), Armstead(FR), Lewis(FR) and Tellefson (JR) with significant experience.
Point being, this team is SOOOOOOO young, and look where they are. Look at what Glenn and Co. did in recruiting after last year. After a 1-11 season - think about what they can do after this season. When they can walk into a room and say - "hey, do you want to play against Oregon on the Pac-12 network, in Autzen Stadium, against the team that Nike built?"
Look at all of the guys that are on the 2 deep that are Freshman or RS-Freshman. How can any reasonable person not see the promise in what Glenn is building?
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Post by usdguy99 on Nov 18, 2013 18:08:27 GMT -6
Just to be clear, I have thought that these changes needed to be made before the last 3 losses and I probably should have posted this before the state game. I do agree that we have a harder time "recruiting" coaches to USD due to the budget and the one year contracts. It's my hope with our success this year that maybe some of the checkbooks will open up and help with the budget issue. There have to be some position coaches at some successful programs that would like a chance to be a coordinator, but I could be wrong.
These same budget and contract issues are going to hamstring us, in my opinion, in our search for a new MBB coach.
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