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Post by usdguy99 on Mar 13, 2014 13:39:04 GMT -6
I had lunch with a good friend of Ryan Miller's and Ryan told him that he has contacted the search firm and/or submitted his application.
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Post by GoYotes on Mar 13, 2014 19:16:24 GMT -6
If Billeter was once a head coach at the D1 level, what are the circumstances that resulted in him ending up at Augustana? Question is not intended as smack, just a "I wonder why".
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Post by teamsd on Mar 13, 2014 19:19:47 GMT -6
If Billeter was once a head coach at the D1 level, what are the circumstances that resulted in him ending up at Augustana? Question is not intended as smack, just a "I wonder why". I second that.
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Post by crudeyote on Mar 13, 2014 21:26:04 GMT -6
Yoteforever put any thoughts I had of Miller being our guy to rest. We want the right guy, that does the right things, for the right reasons. A stand up guy. IMO if you are a GREAT asst, you don't end up on a BAD staff. Auburn is a BAD staff. If he is as great as advertised, then why didn't he go with any of his previous HC's? Seem too odd to me.
I have heard several interview Tim Miles has given where he speaks very highly of Craig Smith on and off the court. He must be the real deal if Miles has wanted him by his side at Mayville State, NDSU, CSU and now Neb. Plus he has had a great amount of success as a Head Coach. If you are a "Nation Coach of the Year", I don't care what level it is, that's a big deal.
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Post by newyote on Mar 13, 2014 21:36:06 GMT -6
Just an fyi...alford offered coach Miller a job as soon as he got the ucla position. Pitino offered ryan a job when he got the minnesota job. Ryan turned both of these down due to being loyal to auburn. How can someone question his character on here when every program he's been with speaks so highly of him and head coaches continue to want him. People are questioning his character because of a coach he's worked under....seems kind of silly. From everything I've heard Ryan is a stand up guy and will work harder than anyone else. If an sec message board has 3 pages of posters lobbying for ryan to take over head coach ill trust that he'd be a good fit for a summit league team
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Post by Yotes on Mar 13, 2014 23:39:10 GMT -6
If Billeter was once a head coach at the D1 level, what are the circumstances that resulted in him ending up at Augustana? Question is not intended as smack, just a "I wonder why". He left NDSU in 1997 to go to St. Johns for a season, then spent five years at Texas A&M, which must not have gone well since he followed that up by taking over D-2 Auggie. His only head coaching experience is at the D2 level, and he has just one share of a conference title in 15 years as a head coach.
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Post by Yotes on Mar 13, 2014 23:41:19 GMT -6
Yoteforever put any thoughts I had of Miller being our guy to rest. We want the right guy, that does the right things, for the right reasons. A stand up guy. IMO if you are a GREAT asst, you don't end up on a BAD staff. Auburn is a BAD staff. If he is as great as advertised, then why didn't he go with any of his previous HC's? Seem too odd to me. I have heard several interview Tim Miles has given where he speaks very highly of Craig Smith on and off the court. He must be the real deal if Miles has wanted him by his side at Mayville State, NDSU, CSU and now Neb. Plus he has had a great amount of success as a Head Coach. If you are a "Nation Coach of the Year", I don't care what level it is, that's a big deal. Yoteforever also made points that make me very leery of Ryan Miller (I swear Yoteforever is the wisest guy around). I don't think I can express just how good of an idea it would be to bring in Craig Smith if he is actually interested in the job. He is going to be big someday, and I hope his road to the top goes through Vermillion.
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Post by teamsd on Mar 14, 2014 1:38:12 GMT -6
Its gonna be a huge incentive to talk to these candidates and pull out pictures of the new arena that will be on its way!
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Post by yoteforever on Mar 14, 2014 5:19:46 GMT -6
Just an fyi...alford offered coach Miller a job as soon as he got the ucla position. Pitino offered ryan a job when he got the minnesota job. Ryan turned both of these down due to being loyal to auburn. How can someone question his character on here when every program he's been with speaks so highly of him and head coaches continue to want him. People are questioning his character because of a coach he's worked under....seems kind of silly. From everything I've heard Ryan is a stand up guy and will work harder than anyone else. If an sec message board has 3 pages of posters lobbying for ryan to take over head coach ill trust that he'd be a good fit for a summit league team Newyote, please understand I'm not arguing with you. You apparently have strong feelings for Coach Miller, and that's great. A lot of people do. My point, which if won't retract, is his history. Maybe there is absolutely nothing in it, and to some degree you might be right that it isn't fair to have him guilty by association, but in the world of athletics, it all has to be considered. You have twice stated he was offered positions by UCLA when Alford went west. If you know this to be fact, I accept your position. However, I will tell you, my connections say he wasn't offered the job out there, and obviously I can't prove that so I would make it a mute point. I personally have had a business dealing with Alford, and he's less than honorable. ( that's a nice way to say he's never going to do business with me again ). Steve Alford has some very questionable practices. You raise Richard Pitino as offering him a job. That may very well be. I have no clue. What I said was he had an association with JohnCalipari, and I think that speaks for itself. Coch Miller very well may be a great guy, and at the end of the day, a great he hire for USD, but there is no question some hard questions that would have to be asked. Regarding Coach Smith, I'm not sure what position to take. It appears that he is once heck of a guy. I have nothing that would alter that. The only thing I would says that he has worked for only one coach, Tim Miles. And they have done a great job wherever they went. Right now, on the national scene, Tim Miles is the flavor of the day. He's the hot coach. Time will tell if he stays the hot coach, but I get just a wee bit nervous on complete newcomers to the scene. Just a wee bit. It looks like potentially a good hire, I can't argue that. Lastly, TJ Otzelberger is a name. He has coached for three coaches. Greg McDermott, whose son will be player of the year at creighton. TJ started at Iowa State with McDermott. Secondly, Fred Hoiberg. Probably enough said there. Was an All-American player at Iowa State in the 90's. Was and Academic All-American at Iowa State, played pro ball, worked in front offices oft he NBA, and has unquestionable charecter. Ranked about 16th this year,a nd had player of the year Melvin Ejim. Melvin was TJ's recruit. This year TJ worked for Coach Romar at Washington. I know little about him except he has the reputation of high charecter. If this indeed is our selection of candidates, and rumor has it it is, I think 2 oft he three stand out, and one of those two stand out a little more than the other. A little. If this is how it played out, it appears we are getting a good coach.
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Post by yoteforever on Mar 14, 2014 5:21:19 GMT -6
Its gonna be a huge incentive to talk to these candidates and pull out pictures of the new arena that will be on its way! INDEED. the timetable to resurrect matches the timetable to build
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Post by mraugustana on Mar 14, 2014 6:46:16 GMT -6
If Billeter was once a head coach at the D1 level, what are the circumstances that resulted in him ending up at Augustana? Question is not intended as smack, just a "I wonder why". Since it was asked, I'm going to jump in on this and answer this. I'm sure some of you guys are getting tired of me posting on here, but hopefully this will at least answer goyotes's question. As someone who only knows Coach Billeter through radio interviews, some luncheons he's spoken at, and some quick conversations at post-game gatherings, I don't exactly know his life story or anything. I just know he's been a great guy who has helped turn a 17-year doormat program into a regular contender in the NSIC (other than this season, which, as mentioned in one of my posts in the Joey James thread, had some unusual circumstances). As to your question, goyotes, one thing that might shed some light on his career path is this story that ran in the Argus Leader earlier this season (it's been archived on the Argus site, but Augie also has it posted on their school website): www.augie.edu/news/2013-12/news-augies-billeter-has-winning-formulaIt's got some quotes about him from former Arizona head coach Lute Olson, amongst others, as well as quite a bit of other information regarding his career, much of which covers the reasons for the transitions between schools, as was brought up by 12345678. Like I've said before, I'm not lobbying for Billeter to get the USD job. If I wanted to do that, I'd be writing letters to your athletic director and administration instead of posting info on a message board. It's clear from other posters' comments that all three of the other names that continue to pop up have impressive credentials and several of you USD fans are excited about the opportunity to hire them. I don't blame you. It's pretty clear that all three will be great head coaches, whether it's at USD or somewhere else. I'm simply trying to shed a little more light on a coach who has done some great things to turn around Augie's program and, in my opinion, would be successful at USD. As a fan of Augie's program and what Coach Billeter has done there, I'd love to see him get a shot at a D1 opportunity (although my preference would be for that shot to come as a result of Augie going D1, not as a result of him leaving for a different job).
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Post by realisttoo on Mar 14, 2014 6:51:08 GMT -6
A guy with D1 experience is a positive. A guy who has called a timeout in his lifetime is a positive. A guy who has had success as a HC, regardless of level is a positive. Hiring a search firm was a poor decision. Herbster and his staff are capable of determining who the right fit is. Why rely on someone else to tell you who the right fit is?
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Post by Cousin Eddie on Mar 14, 2014 7:44:58 GMT -6
Just an fyi...alford offered coach Miller a job as soon as he got the ucla position. Pitino offered ryan a job when he got the minnesota job. Ryan turned both of these down due to being loyal to auburn. How can someone question his character on here when every program he's been with speaks so highly of him and head coaches continue to want him. People are questioning his character because of a coach he's worked under....seems kind of silly. From everything I've heard Ryan is a stand up guy and will work harder than anyone else. If an sec message board has 3 pages of posters lobbying for ryan to take over head coach ill trust that he'd be a good fit for a summit league team Newyote, please understand I'm not arguing with you. You apparently have strong feelings for Coach Miller, and that's great. A lot of people do. My point, which if won't retract, is his history. Maybe there is absolutely nothing in it, and to some degree you might be right that it isn't fair to have him guilty by association, but in the world of athletics, it all has to be considered. You have twice stated he was offered positions by UCLA when Alford went west. If you know this to be fact, I accept your position. However, I will tell you, my connections say he wasn't offered the job out there, and obviously I can't prove that so I would make it a mute point. I personally have had a business dealing with Alford, and he's less than honorable. ( that's a nice way to say he's never going to do business with me again ). Steve Alford has some very questionable practices. You raise Richard Pitino as offering him a job. That may very well be. I have no clue. What I said was he had an association with JohnCalipari, and I think that speaks for itself. Coch Miller very well may be a great guy, and at the end of the day, a great he hire for USD, but there is no question some hard questions that would have to be asked. Regarding Coach Smith, I'm not sure what position to take. It appears that he is once heck of a guy. I have nothing that would alter that. The only thing I would says that he has worked for only one coach, Tim Miles. And they have done a great job wherever they went. Right now, on the national scene, Tim Miles is the flavor of the day. He's the hot coach. Time will tell if he stays the hot coach, but I get just a wee bit nervous on complete newcomers to the scene. Just a wee bit. It looks like potentially a good hire, I can't argue that. Lastly, TJ Otzelberger is a name. He has coached for three coaches. Greg McDermott, whose son will be player of the year at creighton. TJ started at Iowa State with McDermott. Secondly, Fred Hoiberg. Probably enough said there. Was an All-American player at Iowa State in the 90's. Was and Academic All-American at Iowa State, played pro ball, worked in front offices oft he NBA, and has unquestionable charecter. Ranked about 16th this year,a nd had player of the year Melvin Ejim. Melvin was TJ's recruit. This year TJ worked for Coach Romar at Washington. I know little about him except he has the reputation of high charecter. If this indeed is our selection of candidates, and rumor has it it is, I think 2 oft he three stand out, and one of those two stand out a little more than the other. A little. If this is how it played out, it appears we are getting a good coach. Craig's Profile: www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=100&ATCLID=205435851He has been a head coach at the NAIA level with Mayville State for several years and was National Coach of the Year. Do you like the success that NDSU has had? Saul Phillips, spent his time under Miles and has very comparable D1 experience to Craig (although I will concede he spent all of his other years with Bo Ryan). Craig is constantly praised by Miles as a vital part of the building success they have had and, just yesterday on Jim Rome, Miles may have had a slip of the tongue and said "he is going to be a great head coach." I understand the fear of a guy that has been with one coach for too long (see: Joey James), but he has been at 3 different schools at 3 different levels. In each place they took a dumpster fire of a program and turned it around into an NCAA Tournament team. I sort of get the comment that Miles is the "hot coach" right now or flavor of the day, but I think that is a little shallow. It isn't like this is his first major success. He turned NDSU into the team that became Summit champs in their first year of eligibility. He took a team of 4 scholarship players at CSU and turned them into back-to-back tournament teams. He is poised to get Nebraska back to the tourney for the first time since 1998 and with a single victory in the tourney would effectively become the most successful coach in Nebraska basketball history. Craig is the right-hand man. He is the organized guy, he is the primary scout and game planner, he is a solid recruiter and he is the "technical" coach of all the assistants. The other guys are there almost exclusively to recruit.
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Post by Cousin Eddie on Mar 14, 2014 7:50:13 GMT -6
Notwithstanding my comments above, I think TJ Otzelberger would also be a home run.
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Post by Yote 53 on Mar 14, 2014 8:40:38 GMT -6
Notwithstanding my comments above, I think TJ Otzelberger would also be a home run. Certainly is an impressive list of candidates. I will say that.
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