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Post by aldewitt on Nov 26, 2018 5:32:32 GMT -6
The locals took notice. From the StarTribune:
This is probably why people think it’s free:
The $600,000 is attendance based but with 25,000 sold, all the prime expensive seats it’s already in the money in a big way. Apparently there has been over a mill in sponsorships sold too.
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Post by Yotes on Nov 26, 2018 16:54:46 GMT -6
A blurb in the StarTribune is a given. They mention that it's a second-tier game, which kind of says it all. A second tier game in a city where even Big 10 football is something of an afterthought. Honestly, sdsu is probably going to get more exposure given that they open at Minnesota that same weekend. I won't be the least bit surprised when the game sells out, which is a great audience for sponsors to be in front of, but it's going to be sold out to the existing fanbase. I'm not sure where the exposure to the local population is going to come from outside of another blurb in the paper mentioning that the game took place. They probably aren't going to be advertising that there's tickets for sale and it won't be broadcast on TV here.
I've got a part-time job at a brewery 2 blocks from Target Field. I hear about a lot of other events there and around downtown, I'll let you know if I hear anyone ever mention this game. I'm still waiting for anyone to mention the basketball games at US Bank Stadium this weekend featuring Minnesota, Oklahoma State, NDSU, sdsu, UNI, and Drake. Everyone is pretty focused on those Vikings, Wild, and (for some reason) Timberwolves.
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Post by aldewitt on Nov 26, 2018 18:22:18 GMT -6
That’s the sort of thing you have to remember when talking about Augie.
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Post by aldewitt on Nov 28, 2018 5:58:48 GMT -6
The question was why NDSU booked a game at Target Field. The answer: enhance the NDSU brand, enhance athletic recruiting and make money.
The point being made now is big deal who in Minneapolis, besides the 30,000 at the game and the downtown businesses, cares?
NDSU is an Augie in mnpls. Everybody knows that, but they make money and can compete there despite tens of millions in budget disparity and an enrollment difference comparable to Augie and the Summit/MVFC schools. The impact of the Target Field event is no different than any other big event downtown. An Augie/USD game in Sioux Falls would be a bigger deal for Sioux Falls than NDSU @ Target Field is in Minneapolis.
For both Augie and NDSU they are brands bursting at the seams with growth potential. Just like NDSU is helping Butler and the Minneapolis market Augie in the Summit would help USD, SDSU and Sioux Falls.
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Post by Yotes on Nov 28, 2018 17:55:18 GMT -6
I can accept why they booked a game at Target Field. You seem giddy about the exposure, and I'm not sure where you think that's going to come from. The event isn't going to be advertised to anyone new if the existing fanbase buys all the tickets. There will be a couple blurbs in the paper but about the best you can hope for here is that a few months after the event someone will be able to ask "Is that the one that played at Target Field" when they hear anything about one of the 4 Dakota schools. I've had enough people ask me if USD is the one that wins those D2 titles to know how much people here care.
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Post by Yote 53 on Nov 28, 2018 21:26:52 GMT -6
You must not have bought any tickets in the last 5 years from the Twins website. I am on their email list and my inbox has seen many emails from them marketing this game. They'll get exposure. It's a big event in downtown Minneapolis, they'll get tons of exposure. I am admittedly jealous and I hope USD can someday have that presence in MSP.
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Post by Yotes on Nov 28, 2018 21:51:35 GMT -6
You must not have bought any tickets in the last 5 years from the Twins website. I am on their email list and my inbox has seen many emails from them marketing this game. They'll get exposure. It's a big event in downtown Minneapolis, they'll get tons of exposure. I am admittedly jealous and I hope USD can someday have that presence in MSP. I have not. Tend to buy my tickets on the street right before the game. That certainly puts the name in front of tens of thousands of people.
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Post by bisoninnwmn on Nov 29, 2018 6:30:28 GMT -6
I can accept why they booked a game at Target Field. You seem giddy about the exposure, and I'm not sure where you think that's going to come from. The event isn't going to be advertised to anyone new if the existing fanbase buys all the tickets. There will be a couple blurbs in the paper but about the best you can hope for here is that a few months after the event someone will be able to ask "Is that the one that played at Target Field" when they hear anything about one of the 4 Dakota schools. I've had enough people ask me if USD is the one that wins those D2 titles to know how much people here care. You do not get it and probably will not. This is a big deal. Many alum in the Metro. NDSU's AD has repeatedly been told no by the Gopher AD for scheduling a game with them. NDSU recruits the Metro and this gives more exposure to that market. This will be awesome, another home game. My group has 3 suites already and I am looking forward to having a great time.
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Post by Yote 53 on Nov 29, 2018 9:05:45 GMT -6
You must not have bought any tickets in the last 5 years from the Twins website. I am on their email list and my inbox has seen many emails from them marketing this game. They'll get exposure. It's a big event in downtown Minneapolis, they'll get tons of exposure. I am admittedly jealous and I hope USD can someday have that presence in MSP. I have not. Tend to buy my tickets on the street right before the game. That certainly puts the name in front of tens of thousands of people. You realize how many people are on the Twins email list, right? Anyways, if there is an event in downtown Minneapolis at Target Field that has 30,000 people in attendance it is a bug deal and the locals will notice that influx of fans at the hotels and bars that weekend.
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Post by aldewitt on Nov 30, 2018 21:17:34 GMT -6
Pat Reusse was on the radio today talking about NDSU and the Jacks. SDSU plays the Gophers next year. He likes like crowds they bring to TCF stadium but he especially wants the Gophers to open every year with the Bison. Gophers get a home game one year Bison the next at Target field or maybe even US Bank.
The Games at Target field are a big deal and are turning heads. These huge crowds are a stark contrast to the Gophers 15-20,000. Sour grapes doesn’t change that but there might be possibilities for other teams to do this possibly in other cities like Omaha or KC.
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Post by Yotes on Dec 1, 2018 0:00:42 GMT -6
Pat Reusse was on the radio today talking about NDSU and the Jacks. SDSU plays the Gophers next year. He likes like crowds they bring to TCF stadium but he especially wants the Gophers to open every year with the Bison. Gophers get a home game one year Bison the next at Target field or maybe even US Bank. The Games at TCF are a big deal and are turning heads. These huge crowds are a stark contrast to the Gophers 15-20,000. Sour grapes doesn’t change that but there might be possibilities for other teams to do this possibly in other cities like Omaha or KC. The Gophers averaged nearly 38k in their home games this year. Maybe get the names of the facilities straight too.
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Post by aldewitt on Dec 1, 2018 4:48:51 GMT -6
Pat Reusse was on the radio today talking about NDSU and the Jacks. SDSU plays the Gophers next year. He likes like crowds they bring to TCF stadium but he especially wants the Gophers to open every year with the Bison. Gophers get a home game one year Bison the next at Target field or maybe even US Bank. The Games at TCF are a big deal and are turning heads. These huge crowds are a stark contrast to the Gophers 15-20,000. Sour grapes doesn’t change that but there might be possibilities for other teams to do this possibly in other cities like Omaha or KC. The Gophers averaged nearly 38k in their home games this year. Maybe get the names of the facilities straight too. Reusse addressed that too emphasizing the difference between tickets sold and butts in the seats. I don’t watch the Gophers so I dont know first hand. He says around 15K and I prefer his first hand professional observations over your opinion. The fact nobody goes to the games is exactly the reason he wants the Bison on the schedule: Bison fans will fill the seats. He begrudgingly admits SDSU and NDSU are middle of the pack big 10 teams. He admits openly the Gophers won’t play NDSU because they are afraid of losing. He went on to make the point if the Gophers can’t get by NDSU, the giants in the FCS, they are doomed to the bottom half of the Big 10 anyway. Maybe it would be better if you heard the interview yourself www.inforum.com/entertainment/podcasts/924340-The-McFeely-Mess-Should-the-Gophers-schedule-the-Bison-Patrick-Reusse-thinks-soReusse wants a home/home First game at TCF, Bison get bus fare. For the return he suggests NDSU at USBank stadium (The Ziggy) and the gate gets split or possibly Target Field. Obviously details are up in the air but the mere suggestion indicates heads are turning and these games are a big deal. PJ Fleck is so upset about this he said the other day he doesn’t care about attendance 😏 The potential is there for other schools to do this. Money is important but primarily this is about promotion of the University first athletic recruiting second but in the mean time it’s about the huge pre game party rocking downtown Minneapolis. ps. He wants a gate split with the NDSU home end because NDSU at Target Field or USBank would have more seats and a higher potential gross than TCF.
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Post by gopheryote on Dec 1, 2018 7:50:46 GMT -6
Well, I watch/follow the Gophers pretty closely. Here are a couple things to provide context: - Reusse is notorious for being anti-Gophers and pro-Vikings, and believes there is a choice to be made between the two (money, focus, fans, support, etc.) - His plan to play NDSU is equal parts snubbing the Gophers and snubbing NDSU. He is playing on NDSU fan's irritating belief that they would be better than most B1G teams, so it is a way to 'prove it' against a team that is currently at the bottom of the B1G, while simultaneously filling up a stadium and giving money to UofM. - Don't mistake the main point - he doesn't like PJ, and it creates a strawman that PJ is supposed to address (Too scared to schedule NDSU...) Ruesse's idea is a win-win for Ruesse, and the reason FBS teams are hesitant to schedule T25 FCS teams: NDSU W or close Gophers W and he can take shots at Fleck for being all hype, cant wind here, etc.; Gophers get a blowout W, and his article is about how many NDSU fans are in the stadium. Also, it creates the snarky narrative that NDSU is a rival, not Iowa/Wisconsin/Nebraska. - Fleck wasn't saying he doesn't care about attendance for a potential NDSU game. He said he isn't getting too worried about a downward trend in attendance this year/last year because he recognized that fans will come when they start winning, and he is early in the rebuild process. Fans will come with W's. (He would never say it, but I'm sure they were not expecting a bowl game this year) - There is simply no reason for the Gophers to be friendly to NDSU. (To Gopher supporters, it would be viewed as helping out the little guy next door, not some competitive series.) NDSU's main recruiting ground is MN, and UofM would prefer the marginal B1G guys that NDSU gets to come be a Gopher (partial scholly or walk-on) in case they develop.
I think the game at Target field is gimmicky for NDSU, but a good idea. A regular series with NDSU isn't happening though.
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Post by aldewitt on Dec 1, 2018 12:58:13 GMT -6
Those are all fair criticisms, the other side of the coin you might say. It all speaks to the point that the game is on the radar. That's a lot of noticing you are talking about. If nothing else what Reusse says gets broadcast all over. I think that point is made. Its also obvious its a successful promotion for NDSU.
The other point was how does this work for other FCS schools? NDSU is tapping into their alumni/recruiting base. I don't know where USD grads are. It seems there is a lot more recruiting emphasis on Iowa than Minnesota. Maybe tap into Ames or Iowa City. Of course there may be no way it works for USD in football. Minnesota did it with hockey in Las Vegas, maybe basketball would work for USD?
In the meantime gopher athletics, and PJ Fleck, have to listen to people like Reusse tell everyone NDSU outdraws the Gopers in Minneapolis, the Bison are a better football team, and it's true. They know and Fleck is so frustrated he doesn't even care.
It's a lot like the Dakota schools have to listen to our media personalities telling everyone Augie is moving up and its probably true. It's funny that way.
Main is handing it to Jacksonville. Last I saw 42-14, JMU 10 Colgate 3. It looks like all games are on ESPN3.
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Post by elcoyote on Dec 1, 2018 19:06:37 GMT -6
While I appreciate a lot of what you post on this board, if I want to read about how wonderful NDSU is I can go over to their board. The way Minnesota was playing at the end of the year they would have handled your beloved Bison although there is always the chance for an upset. I know, I know, you should probably be one of the four team chosen for the national playoffs and you'd most likely beat Alabama.
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