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Post by kiyoat on Feb 20, 2018 22:25:03 GMT -6
Wow. Zim is spot-on with his takes on both the men and women. I can't really argue with any of it, just to hope he is wrong in his prediction for the men. Anyone looking for locker room fodder won't find it there, unless you happen to be an overly sensitive Jacks fan.
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Post by kiyoat on Feb 21, 2018 9:30:53 GMT -6
Here's a fun exercise. Here are a few quotes from that Zimmer interview that are taken out of context (by me) to make him seem anti-Jacks:
"They've never won an outright season title. (Jacks) They've shared it a few times, but have never had it all to themselves."
"Obviously USD is having a really good year, too. And they beat them. That certainly wasn't a bad loss, on the road to your rival, an equal-caliber team."
"If they can't get at least 4,000 on Thursday night, I'd be disappointed by that. We'll see. For whatever reason they still haven't been able to quite capture the same sort of craziness that there was in the Division II era. The numbers aren't the same... I don't know if we'll ever get back to that..."
"Let's face it. As far as basketball is concerned, USD is the rival. It's not North Dakota State..... Just looking at the two teams, where they're at; They're essentially equals right now.... I think everyone understands that at this point."
"Defensively they're still not as good as they'd like to be. I don't even think they're as good, necessarily, as sometimes T.J. says they are. USD's a better defensive team."
Q: What is it that makes the Jacks so unbeatable at home?
A: "One thing that helps is that they never have to play anybody in the non-conference, because they can't get any good mid-majors or power teams are never going to come in there, really...."
"I think Frost Arena itself... It's still got that kind of 'old barn' sort of feel to it... It feels a little bit more like a gym than an arena."
"Technically it can hold like, 6,000 fans if you pull down the bleachers in the upper deck, and have standing room and all that. But as far as the actual seating, I think it has, like, 3,000 actual individual seats. So 3,000 people can still fill the place up... it can still have that same sort of full, ignited crowd sort of atmosphere.... sometimes that affects how officials call the game."
"USD's had some success slowing Mike Daum down. At home. Away. In the Summit League Tournament. He hasn't been a guy that's necessarily had those 35-point games against USD... As great as Mike Daum is, he's not totally indomitable. You CAN slow him down. You CAN find ways of keeping the ball away from him, or make it hard for him to get his points."
"...If they dont' win, it won't be shocking. It won't be a huge upset. USD is very good."
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Post by gopheryote on Feb 21, 2018 9:34:48 GMT -6
Prediction: If Daum gets called for an offensive foul the rabbits don't have a prayer. Agree. The referees will be the deciding factor in who wins this game. Though that statement is maybe a bit far fetched/sarcastic, it will be very interesting to see what style of game the officials go with. The rabbits seemed to roll over as soon as things weren't going their way (i.e. - physical defense and the missed shots that followed). I'm not saying they are soft, but I'm also not saying they are not soft...
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Post by Yote 53 on Feb 22, 2018 9:53:15 GMT -6
Agree. The referees will be the deciding factor in who wins this game. Though that statement is maybe a bit far fetched/sarcastic, it will be very interesting to see what style of game the officials go with. The rabbits seemed to roll over as soon as things weren't going their way (i.e. - physical defense and the missed shots that followed). I'm not saying they are soft, but I'm also not saying they are not soft... Not sarcastic. It is 100% accurate. If the refs let the teams play the USD defense will get physical on Daum and limit him. If the refs let Daum bull his way through the lane, shoulder down, then it's going to be a hard night stopping him if they are going to call ticky tack stuff on us. How you going to stop a guy bulling his way to the hoop if you can't be physical back at him? The refs going to call it like the first game and how OOC P5 games are called for SDSU? Or will the Jacks get the Summit League advantage? Where is the ref crew from tonight? Big Ten referees would be music to my ears. Do we need a rewatch of last years SLT game to remind us all how referees can determine a game?
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Post by jacks6106 on Feb 22, 2018 14:34:48 GMT -6
Though that statement is maybe a bit far fetched/sarcastic, it will be very interesting to see what style of game the officials go with. The rabbits seemed to roll over as soon as things weren't going their way (i.e. - physical defense and the missed shots that followed). I'm not saying they are soft, but I'm also not saying they are not soft... Not sarcastic. It is 100% accurate. If the refs let the teams play the USD defense will get physical on Daum and limit him. If the refs let Daum bull his way through the lane, shoulder down, then it's going to be a hard night stopping him if they are going to call ticky tack stuff on us. How you going to stop a guy bulling his way to the hoop if you can't be physical back at him? The refs going to call it like the first game and how OOC P5 games are called for SDSU? Or will the Jacks get the Summit League advantage? Where is the ref crew from tonight? Big Ten referees would be music to my ears. Do we need a rewatch of last years SLT game to remind us all how referees can determine a game? So let me get this straight, you hope the refs let USD defense get physical on Daum so they can stop him but hope they don't let Daum get physical with the USD defense so they can't stop him? This is the second post I have seen that at the beginning it says hopefully the refs let them play physical defense and not call ticky tac fouls than at the end of the post it says if they don't call tricky tac fouls it won't be fair trying stop Daum. So what you are really saying is you hope USD doesn't get called for any fouls the whole game and everytime Daum touches it he gets called for a foul. Seems logical
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Post by Coyote Fan on Feb 22, 2018 14:58:19 GMT -6
I think what is being said is the Coyote fans just want it to be a fairly officiated game for both teams and for all players. that was not the case in the tourney last year. Daum tends to lower his shoulder and run over people and get the foul called on the defense but it is not being called the same way on both ends. just be consistent is all the yotes hope for.
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Post by yoteforever on Feb 22, 2018 15:01:36 GMT -6
Refs won’t decide this game, the players will. Any advantage in officiating will naturally go to the home team but unless a super controversial call is made at the very end, the best team will prevail. Gonna be a great game.
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Post by Yote 53 on Feb 22, 2018 15:11:04 GMT -6
I think what is being said is the Coyote fans just want it to be a fairly officiated game for both teams and for all players. that was not the case in the tourney last year. Daum tends to lower his shoulder and run over people and get the foul called on the defense but it is not being called the same way on both ends. just be consistent is all the yotes hope for. Yes. This. If you're going to let them play let them play.
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Post by Yotes on Feb 22, 2018 15:20:27 GMT -6
Not sarcastic. It is 100% accurate. If the refs let the teams play the USD defense will get physical on Daum and limit him. If the refs let Daum bull his way through the lane, shoulder down, then it's going to be a hard night stopping him if they are going to call ticky tack stuff on us. How you going to stop a guy bulling his way to the hoop if you can't be physical back at him? The refs going to call it like the first game and how OOC P5 games are called for SDSU? Or will the Jacks get the Summit League advantage? Where is the ref crew from tonight? Big Ten referees would be music to my ears. Do we need a rewatch of last years SLT game to remind us all how referees can determine a game? So let me get this straight, you hope the refs let USD defense get physical on Daum so they can stop him but hope they don't let Daum get physical with the USD defense so they can't stop him? This is the second post I have seen that at the beginning it says hopefully the refs let them play physical defense and not call ticky tac fouls than at the end of the post it says if they don't call tricky tac fouls it won't be fair trying stop Daum. So what you are really saying is you hope USD doesn't get called for any fouls the whole game and everytime Daum touches it he gets called for a foul. Seems logical Charging should apply to everyone. That's what we want.
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Post by usdcoyote on Feb 22, 2018 17:17:59 GMT -6
Refs won’t decide this game, the players will. Any advantage in officiating will naturally go to the home team but unless a super controversial call is made at the very end, the best team will prevail. Gonna be a great game. Sure hope you are right because that's not the way it played out in Brookings or Sioux falls last year. I like your confidence though, I hope you are right. The best team was not allowed to prevail, especially in the SLT.
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Post by gopheryote on Feb 22, 2018 17:31:15 GMT -6
Pre-emptive complaining about refs? Seriously?
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Post by usdcoyote on Feb 22, 2018 17:59:44 GMT -6
Pre-emptive complaining about refs? Seriously? Not sure who this was directed at, but it appears to me like people are just hoping we get a fair shake from the refs tonight because that hasn't always happened in the past. I wouldn't call that preemptive complaining but maybe complaining about past games.
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Post by jacks6106 on Feb 22, 2018 17:59:56 GMT -6
I think what is being said is the Coyote fans just want it to be a fairly officiated game for both teams and for all players. that was not the case in the tourney last year. Daum tends to lower his shoulder and run over people and get the foul called on the defense but it is not being called the same way on both ends. just be consistent is all the yotes hope for. Yes. This. If you're going to let them play let them play. I agree i hope they let them play tonight as well but just because you have the ball and run into someone and they fall down doesn't automatically mean it was a charge. I the defender isn't in the right position it is a block and should be called a block and not a charge just because Daum is the one who ran into the defender.
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Post by usdcoyote on Feb 22, 2018 18:22:46 GMT -6
What do you think the crowd will be tonight? Is this weather going to keep it down a bit, or is it only going to keep Yote fans from driving up for the game while most all the State fans will be able to make it? What does Frost hold now anyway?
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Post by coyotecrazie5 on Feb 22, 2018 19:13:31 GMT -6
If Layne Severyn is gonna be shooting all night I will take it.
Yotes down 11-6. State has made some 3's early.
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