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Post by coyote70 on Aug 11, 2012 17:43:53 GMT -6
Personally I look forward to pretty much any post unless the negativity or lack of maturity is over the top. On second thought, maybe I could stand a little bit of that, too since it is so early in the football season (has it started ?).
Anyway, congrats to you, redwhiteandyote for forwarding much needed information!
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Post by Coyote Fan on Aug 11, 2012 17:45:37 GMT -6
Lets not forget that yoteforever is the one trying to turn this into a pissing match, not me. Yoteforever you and I disagree, it's a good thing Sayler has a bigger vision than you do. Meierkort gone, Sayler agrees with me yoteforever does not. Game in Sioux Falls, Sayler agrees with me as well. yoteforever would never have the vision to do that if he were AD. Sayler visionary, Yoteforever stuck in the past.
I think Sioux Falls would be a better permanent home for Coyote athletics. Of course yoteforever disagrees with that.
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Post by yoteforever on Aug 11, 2012 18:00:55 GMT -6
Lets not forget that yoteforever is the one trying to turn this into a pissing match, not me. Yoteforever you and I disagree, it's a good thing Sayler has a bigger vision than you do. Meierkort gone, Sayler agrees with me yoteforever does not. Game in Sioux Falls, Sayler agrees with me as well. yoteforever would never have the vision to do that if he were AD. Sayler visionary, Yoteforever stuck in the past. I think Sioux Falls would be a better permanent home for Coyote athletics. Of course yoteforever disagrees with that. Listen up. I am not turning this into a pissing match. I welcome your comments and opinions. What I take exception with is your stabbing of Ed. You say you didn't say a word about Ed, but if you read your first post, it says USD finally has its first D-1 coach. That insinuates Ed wasn't close or in the same stratosphere (using your words). I simply replied that Joe Glenn was a good hire, he is Coyote Red through and through, and he will do a great job. All of that being said doesn't mean Ed was a poor coach. He made some mistakes, no question about it. But he put USD football back on the map after being in the absolute dumps since Dave Triplett. He brought some pride back and he had some athletes go through this school who had skill sets unseen in Vermillion before. Therefore, I refused, and still do, refuse to throw Ed under the bus. Sayler agrees with you on the SF game because of 20m dollars, and that's a good reason to agree with you. My personal preference is to play home games at home. But for the kind of cash Sanford's gave, it's easy to understand Saylers decision. In fact, if he didn't, there is no way an arena would get built. It's gonna still be tough even with the Sanford pledge. I suggest you apply for the Associate AD position if Herbster ever leaves, because according to you, you have the foresight and all of us other fans are in the past. I am sure Sayler would hire you. By the way, in closing, thanks for your HP membership.
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Post by yoteforever on Aug 11, 2012 18:04:42 GMT -6
Lets not forget that yoteforever is the one trying to turn this into a pissing match, not me. Yoteforever you and I disagree, it's a good thing Sayler has a bigger vision than you do. Meierkort gone, Sayler agrees with me yoteforever does not. Game in Sioux Falls, Sayler agrees with me as well. yoteforever would never have the vision to do that if he were AD. Sayler visionary, Yoteforever stuck in the past. I think Sioux Falls would be a better permanent home for Coyote athletics. Of course yoteforever disagrees with that. Yes I disagree with that. Call me old fashioned. But what the hell, I don't have any vision, so maybe you're right.
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Post by Iceman on Aug 11, 2012 23:20:15 GMT -6
Lets not forget that yoteforever is the one trying to turn this into a pissing match, not me. Yoteforever you and I disagree, it's a good thing Sayler has a bigger vision than you do. Meierkort gone, Sayler agrees with me yoteforever does not. Game in Sioux Falls, Sayler agrees with me as well. yoteforever would never have the vision to do that if he were AD. Sayler visionary, Yoteforever stuck in the past. I think Sioux Falls would be a better permanent home for Coyote athletics. Of course yoteforever disagrees with that. Seriously coyotefan? Here we go again. Sioux Falls a better permanent home for athletics? I said it once, I will say it again. If you want to watch athletics in SF so damn bad, go support Augie or USF.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Aug 11, 2012 23:24:12 GMT -6
Yoteforever,
You admitted that you insinuated and that is a mistake you should not make. I never meant that to be an attack on Ed whatsoever despite my feeling that Ed had lost control of the program. Since Ed has been the only coach since USD has moved to D1 it makes sense to tie those comments together but that is not what I meant. Eventhough USD has never hired a football coach to be a D1 football coach.
I have said this before but personally I like Ed, I just don't think he was the type of coach that was going to pull together a football team to truly (ok so I spelled it correctly this time) get through the tough moments of a game and more importantly a season. The Yotes fell apart the more impactfull the moment was in a game. He had difficiencies in instilling confidence through on field strategy and to have his players make plays when the game was on the line. Many games are decided in those moments so that is a very crucial aspect to be difficient in.
We have to move past the notion of Ed brought USD football on the map. That was 8 years ago. This is a different time and era already. He brought excitement but he had taken the program as far as they would go and that was 2 years into his tenure. From that point progress was no longer being made. We can't use the crutch of where we once were as a program or the means by which we measure ourselves will always be from a substandard pedestal. Heck if we want to go that far and measure based on the past then why didn't the USD admin of the 90's uphold the standards of what the Coyotes did in the 70's and most especially 1986.
We are no longer the program we were in 2011. The head coach is by far the single most defining aspect of a program. A good head coach vs a bad to medium head coach can make up for a world of difference in talent on the field. We should not expect our team to go on the road and self destruct like they once did, including as short ago as last November.
I will throw out a word of caution.
We don't know that Joe Glenn is going to be a savior for this program. I think the odds of USD football being better overall are now better than they were in 2011.
One thing I believe in is to basically take a look at the program as an outsider. Take all personal biases aside and just look at thing from a neutral perspective. We have a coach with a resume of being a championship contender type of coach, certainly at a D2 level and also at the D1 FCS level. What is now gone is a coach that was solid but non spectacular at a D3 level. There is a gi-normous difference in those profiles. Objectively we are much better off right now. Take it as you will but to thrive in the future one must learn from the past. Everything that has happened since the last two games of the 2011 season to right now is telling me as an objective observer that USD football is in much better hands. I think the time may be getting closer in Mens Basketball to look through that same objective micro-scope. We are on the edge of getting a new arena approved and a few accurate photo depictions away from being able to attrack a pretty impressive list of candidates as well.
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Aug 12, 2012 2:01:02 GMT -6
Make no mistake about it this is the first time that USD has had a true D1 coach. That in itself should create a sense of optimism. Glenn is a Coyote true and true. When was the last coach that was hired that had Coyote blood truley running through his veins. That was the line you used Coyote fan. When was the last coach that was hired that Coyote blood running through his veins. Ed sure as heck seemed to care about USD, a lot. You took the shot at Ed like you always try to do. Stop taking shots at Ed. He is gone. No reason to keep kicking it around except to boost your own ego. Got it? I am definitely happy with the hiring of Joe Glenn and I am excited to see what he brings. From what I have heard, Vander Maaten has been impressive in practice, but that's just what I have heard. If some receivers after Will can step up....this could be a very interesting year.
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Post by sd4life on Aug 12, 2012 6:44:03 GMT -6
I guess I read that line to mean when was the last time the Coyotes hired an alumni or somebody who was already a huge Coyote fan. After Ed was hired, he definitely was a Coyote, but he wasn't when they hired him. Many programs actively seek out coaches with ties to the school.
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Post by 88grad on Aug 12, 2012 8:40:21 GMT -6
The last coach we hired that was also an alum was John Austin - who without we would not have had Ed. I will miss Ed a great deal but can't wait until the first kick come September.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Aug 12, 2012 13:05:08 GMT -6
Make no mistake about it this is the first time that USD has had a true D1 coach. That in itself should create a sense of optimism. Glenn is a Coyote true and true. When was the last coach that was hired that had Coyote blood truley running through his veins. That was the line you used Coyote fan. When was the last coach that was hired that Coyote blood running through his veins. Ed sure as heck seemed to care about USD, a lot. You took the shot at Ed like you always try to do. Stop taking shots at Ed. He is gone. No reason to keep kicking it around except to boost your own ego. Got it? I am definitely happy with the hiring of Joe Glenn and I am excited to see what he brings. From what I have heard, Vander Maaten has been impressive in practice, but that's just what I have heard. If some receivers after Will can step up....this could be a very interesting year. Ed did not have USD blood flowing through his veins when he was hired. Why don't you read a little more carefully before you comment. Your attention is better served in Arkansas. You are becoming more and more out of touch with USD athletics by the day.
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Post by azsod73 on Aug 12, 2012 14:22:32 GMT -6
The thread is "football time".
My take on the upcoming season is that better pre-season preparation, and game time execution, will result in better outcomes. As I understand it, we had the most players ever working out in Vermillion over the summer. We will need to have the O and D linemen playing at full potential and hope the 2nd and 3rd men on those line depth charts can hold their own. If Vander Maten is given the time to make good reads we are going to move the ball. Jasper Sanders is having a very good camp and could also be a difference maker. It sounds like the defense is more cohesive and they will be out to prove they are better than pre-season prognosticators give credit. By all accounts, Joe Glenn is fired up (natural inclination I think) about his team's preparations and practices and he brings that immeasurable positive to the sideline. Thank you to all you hard working Yote players and coaches for the time you have put in and best of luck this season!
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Post by jimmer on Aug 12, 2012 15:25:19 GMT -6
why everyone fights on this site is beyond me...
I get an occasional argument but everyone should get along and support the yotes the way this site was intended to.
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Post by azsod73 on Aug 12, 2012 16:14:56 GMT -6
jimmer, you are wise beyond your years.
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Post by yoteforever on Aug 12, 2012 16:25:42 GMT -6
jimmer, you are wise beyond your years. Agreed. Let's move on. What are our chances at Montana?
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Post by #1CoyoteFan (Admin) on Aug 12, 2012 16:55:41 GMT -6
The thread is "football time".My take on the upcoming season is that better pre-season preparation, and game time execution, will result in better outcomes. As I understand it, we had the most players ever working out in Vermillion over the summer. We will need to have the O and D linemen playing at full potential and hope the 2nd and 3rd men on those line depth charts can hold their own. If Vander Maten is given the time to make good reads we are going to move the ball. Jasper Sanders is having a very good camp and could also be a difference maker. It sounds like the defense is more cohesive and they will be out to prove they are better than pre-season prognosticators give credit. By all accounts, Joe Glenn is fired up (natural inclination I think) about his team's preparations and practices and he brings that immeasurable positive to the sideline. Thank you to all you hard working Yote players and coaches for the time you have put in and best of luck this season! Agreed. I think if Vander Maten comes out and impresses, the USD offense could have a chance to stick with about anyone in the Missouri Valley. I would to see more depth on defense, but Glenn seems like a guy that can shore up any problems there. Tyler Starr will be a beast of course. In terms of Montana, without the starting quarterback, maybe Starr can put the fear of God in the new guy within the first five offensive snaps for Montana.
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