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Post by aldewitt on Apr 19, 2019 17:17:25 GMT -6
You would think It would have to be competitive with the old salaries more back end loaded probably if they are moving from assistant to head coach. It may have already been mentioned but what are USD & SDSU paying? With the success that should be some kind of bench mark.
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Post by aldewitt on Apr 19, 2019 13:16:45 GMT -6
Has anybody read what the NDSU salary might be?
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Post by aldewitt on Apr 18, 2019 12:45:39 GMT -6
This was a comment today from Sioux Volly over at the SS in the conference realignment section. He is on top of the information but has a funny way of putting the pieces together. He hasn't been right about much if anything but has kept information like this coming.
I thought his comment about why isnt Douple pursuing them was funny. What he really means is why isnt Douple telling me who they are pursuing! After all, I don't think the conference plans are public plans.
I think he might be right about 1 thing so far. The next members of the Summit will come from the lower divisions. NCAA hockey Champions, UMD Bulldogs, may be a good prospect but I havent heard any news from them. Mankato is another good prospect. Both have football but some type of Pioneer arraignment might work or they might decide to dive in 100%. Hockey and their budget makes that unlikely.
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Post by aldewitt on Apr 18, 2019 4:55:54 GMT -6
It seems Augie would be a better choice than UST. The Tommies sports look like UNDs. A full slate including hockey. UND and Bowling Green are the smallest budgets in the NCAA trying to field D1 hockey, football, basketball etc. Sounds unsound. Augie is ready to go except for the football question. If they dropped football they would be ready to go. In time The Summit May end up with both schools. The Tommies will be playing hockey at another more suitable arena and both could be in the Summit non scholarship football league yet to be formed. The Pioneer is widespread. Travel could be reduced by forming a Summit Division or form the Summit non scholarship as a new league. Drake Butler Valporaso St Thomas Augie UND? University Dayton? A new face from Wisconsin? University Mn Duluth? UND would be a geographical outlier. they have all the potential but it’s unlikely. You can see the Pioneers membership and history here: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pioneer_Football_League
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Post by aldewitt on Apr 17, 2019 8:48:54 GMT -6
They could probably get the exception if the Summit were in a situation where they needed SThomas to maintain auto bids. Their hockey rink does not meet minimum seating standards and can’t be expanded. I haven’t heard how that could be solved.
Yote 53 was on another board with this comment:
The UND Big Sky fiasco turned into a travel cost nightmare. Our budgets just won’t accommodate those costs without some kind of off setting revenues. There is no place to earn these revenues outside of filling stadiums and media contracts. We are getting the best contracts we can get now. I think as growth continues we will reassemble an old NCC core before the BSC, MVFC & SUMMIT see the big schools split into the much ballyhooed FBS conference.
On this I do agree, our future is with our peers in our region and that includes the BSC. These are the schools where a majority of the OOC games should come.
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Post by aldewitt on Apr 13, 2019 8:06:10 GMT -6
This video is called "A New Hero: The Rise of College Esports" it explains how Heros of the Dorm and the Heroic Four tournaments really were game changers. 482 colleges and universities participated. The NCAA has nothing on this. They play for something important and real: college tuition. Its long and I have only seen the first 20 minutes or so. I run it on screen while working. Ill finish it tomorrow.
Here's another video, only 9 minutes or so taking you back to the begining in the 80s to today "How esports changed the game: From media laughingstock to media craze":
One of the criticisms seemed realistic. The games could be easily fixed. One of the things that is apparent: esports is huge surpassing everything out there right now including the NFL and College Basketball. The live events are huge with rock bands and gaming on screen. The college tournaments have no NCAA lording over them and no divisions resulting in 482 colleges and universities sending teams to the Heros of the Dorm!
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Post by aldewitt on Apr 10, 2019 6:55:36 GMT -6
Money is fungible. If programs are cut money is returned to the general fund. If new programs are started money is taken from the general fund. Was one cut to start the other? Was Peter robbed to pay Paul? It's really no argument Kiyoat. if you can't see the connection that's ok. That's one of the reasons money is fungible. In the end it's all the same no matter their intent: the esports arena and other new programs are underway and the other programs are closed. I thought I owed you that clarification considering your rare kindness in pointing out my error in the use of dominate in place of dominant. I guess it boils down to appearances, and as my Mother always said appearances are everything. For those that are interested here is the link for the espn esports section. I was a little suprised by the extensive nature of the sport. esports are world wide in a way other sports aren't. That struck me when I looked at the participants of the Rift of the North. There was no divisional distinction between the schools. In fact one of the smallest schools won and it wasn't even considered an upset. www.espn.com/esports/
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Post by aldewitt on Apr 9, 2019 16:02:19 GMT -6
One of the local conference realignment "experts" on SS.com had this to say about the Summit:
That's just not true. The Summit would be granted extensions to accommodate any workable plan they had to return the conference to compliance. This immediate crisis thing is another figment of that posters imagination.
As Yote53 recently told sioux fans, he agrees with me that St. Thomas would be a good get for the Summit with a future in D1 hockey:
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Post by aldewitt on Apr 9, 2019 12:16:03 GMT -6
Yes 3rdgencoyote, I think it is huge too. My Nephew is a national moderator. I'm not familiar with any games but I have watched his monitors. You can scroll through participants and see the profiles of selected ones. You could communicate through live comments as you watch the fairly realistic, but cartoonish action on the screen. If I had done this as a youngster I would probably be doing it now, maybe even watching. The good players have a following, like skateboarding or snowboarding but I think its much bigger. Heres a recent view of an esports arena in Seattle: The place is packed. I did a duck duck search for esports arenas. a lot came up including the article that picture is taken from: www.bdcnetwork.com/gamers-paradise-rise-esports-arenas
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Post by aldewitt on Apr 9, 2019 4:00:02 GMT -6
With the win at Rift of the North St Ambrose is emerging as the dominate esports program in our region.
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Post by aldewitt on Apr 9, 2019 3:53:07 GMT -6
That article grossly mischaracterizes what is going on at Akron. I can't say that I am surprised, given that it is Breitbart. The idea that they are cutting 20% of their degrees in order to save money to build esports is putting two unrelated things together as a cause-and-effect that supports a narrative. I won't comment on the esports phenomenon, because I don't understand it. They got the degree part wrong, by leaving out some important details. Here is an article from a local paper that better explains the reason for cutting 80 degrees: www.ohio.com/akron/writers/katie-byard/ua-sheds-80-degree-programs-plans-to-beef-up-others-including-cybersecurity-polymer-science-engineering-dance-and-businessThey aren't saving any money and aren't firing any staff. In fact, they are "beefing up" some existing programs with an additional 31 faculty members in growing fields like polymer engineering and cybersecurity. They are simply modernizing their offerings with the times, and cutting the chaff. Fewer than 5% of students were enrolled in the programs cut, and they will be allowed to finish their degrees. Most universities would benefit from periodically evaluating offerings and adjusting their emphasis based on trends. Akron is just being a little more agressive with it due to declining enrollment. It doesn’t mischaracterize anything. Akron has eliminated a huge number of unpopular educational programs and is replacing them with an esports arena as well as beefing up some popular existing educational programs. As you and Breitbart say They are modernizing. They are building a huge esports stadium and doing some beefing up academically too. esports are a reflection of what kids do with their time. It used to be neighborhood sports like football and baseball. Now those games are dying. They are building esports arenas rivaling the size of football and basketball stadiums that sit mostly empty. Akron is pandering to market drivers hoping an emphasis on esports will drive enrollment. The money is coming from the unpopular segments of their curriculum. It was an enrollment decision not based on the higher ideals of a higher education and the needs of society. They are trading educational dollars for recreational and promotional benefits. Don’t forget though some of the money will be spent in the chemistry department on something too.
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Post by aldewitt on Apr 8, 2019 7:12:14 GMT -6
esports were highlighted at minnesota state moorhead over the weekend. Neither USD or SDSU were there but the School of Mines was. Participants were were enthusiastic about the sports comparing them to tradition sports good grades were a top requirement along with team work. Scholarships are being offered at some schools. The Fighting Hawks were making their college debut. St. Ambrose walked out Rift of the North champions Kind of like curling this trend is certainly on the rise and under the radar. Are the SD schools going to field teams. www.inforum.com/sports/1001240-Rift-of-the-North-shows-esports-interest-is-surging-and-here-to-stay
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Post by aldewitt on Apr 7, 2019 8:40:29 GMT -6
Donlon will make $350 k per year on a 6-year contract. Pretty good money for the Summit isnt it?
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Post by aldewitt on Apr 7, 2019 8:34:14 GMT -6
Over at SS it was mentioned that it is no longer possible to move from D3 to D1. You have to go to D2 first. So, St. Thomas would take 9 years. If they were committed to the Summit I'm sure they would count toward any extentsions the Summit may need to perserve auto bids or otherwise keep the conference fully accredited. The addition of a D1 bound St Thomas in transition in the NSIC could lead a few other schools already there to consider a change too.
Looking up St Thomas history, they were a charter member of the old NCC in 1921 and left in 1928. It looks like the old NCC may re-emerge across several different historical periods.
Here is the original NCC:
Creighton University Omaha, Nebraska Bluejays Des Moines University Des Moines, Iowa Tigers Closed in 1929 Morningside College Sioux City, Iowa Mustangs Nebraska Wesleyan University Lincoln, Nebraska Prairie Wolves University of North Dakota Grand Forks, North Dakota North Dakota State University Fargo, North Dakota Bison University of St. Thomas St. Paul, Minnesota Tommies University of South Dakota Vermillion, South Dakota Coyotes South Dakota State University
With the addition of St. Thomas more than half of the original NCC would be back together. Talk about the NCC2! Now add Augie, Duluth, Mankato and St. Cloud to join Omaha and the rest! what a reunion. What once was old is new again.
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Post by aldewitt on Apr 7, 2019 3:52:23 GMT -6
Fargo Forum
I think they are D3. They have a full slate of sports including hockey. Most have them moving to D2 NSIC. If they went all the way to D1 it’s the Summit, Pioneer and WCHA. Talk about stretching the budget. UND and Bowling green have the smallest athletic budgets that include D1 hockey and D1 football. It’s too much for those schools and St. Thomas won’t fair any better. The NSIC makes more sense but with all those sports D1 seems out of reach for a school that size without some changes. Dropping hockey would be the most obvious choice. Without hockey they might be a good fit in the MVFC & Summit?
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