usdlaw
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Post by usdlaw on Dec 30, 2010 16:34:52 GMT -6
I think you will like it just fine. And better than UNDs!
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Post by Yote 53 on Jan 2, 2011 15:18:22 GMT -6
Thinking about future schedules and how we can keep our rivalry with UND going. I have an idea that could help both schools and allow us to maintain our rivalry. It looks like in the future both our schools will have 8 conference games, 4 home/4 away, and one FBS money game. That leaves 2 games a year to schedule. Why not schedule UND to a home/home series indefinitely then set up home and home FCS games with other OOC schools (BSC or Southland) with the home game falling on the years we travel to GF. UND would do the same thing with their home/home series with MVFC schools alternating the years for when they travel to Verm.
Sure, it would result in only 5 home games per year, but that is the reality of things when FCS schools have to play that FBS game. 5 home/5 away FCS games per year with one FBS game. The best way for all of us Dakota schools to deal with this reality is to at least schedule our OOC games against rival schools within driving distance. It would be even better for UND if they could get the annual game with NDSU back. They could play 8 BSC games, and alternate NDSU at home, USD away, then the next year USD at home, and NDSU away, plus an annual FBS game. Talk about making scheduling easy, the only game to schedule each year would be the FBS game. In years where 13 games are allowed a 6th home game could be added by buying an FCS non schollie or D2 game.
Bottom line is scheduling would get a whole lot easier for both our schools if we could just agree on continuing the UND/USD series.
This idea has precedent. Michigan and USC both play Notre Dame annually. So does Purdue and Mich St. Clemson/South Carolina and Georgia/Georgia Tech also play annually OOC.
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Post by GoYotes on Jan 3, 2011 10:19:41 GMT -6
I agree on continuing the UND game. The only problem would be making sure the Big Sky and MVFC schedules are set up so as to avoid a scheduling conflict, which I am guessing will mean that the game would normally need to be scheduled early in the season before the start of conference play.
I like the idea of seeing different teams come to the Dome, but maybe it would make sense to also make Northern Colorado a permanent part of the schedule, along with UND with home games on alternating years.
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Post by Yote 53 on Jan 3, 2011 11:17:19 GMT -6
We will have somewhat different juggling of schools coming to the Dome for our MVFC games due to the unbalanced nature of the conference.
Not very excited about locking in toa series with UNC. UND for sure, but it would be nice to use that one open date to get some different schools in from across the country. After all these years of hodge podge schedules it would be nice to see the same 9 opponents every year like back in the old NCC days. A MVFC schedule along with an annual UND game would be a formidable schedule every Coyote fan could get excited about, not to mention an FBS game.
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Post by usdlaw on Jan 3, 2011 12:29:05 GMT -6
Sayler has said all along that he wants 8 conference games, 1 OOC FCS, 1 FBS, and 1 buy in. If that's the case, then the FCS game would be UND every year, right? Are people ok with that, or do they want variety?
I'm all in favor of playing UND most years, but it would also be nice to get some other FCS teams to come in now and then.
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Post by Yote 53 on Jan 3, 2011 13:09:39 GMT -6
Sure, play the UND series and use that last opening spot for an FCS buy-in game. Or travel to an FCS and get a home/home deal out of them. Granted, like I said, that could mean only 5 home games in some years but that is the way it is if we want an FBS game.
As has been discussed many times over on the other Dakota schools boards, it makes no sense to play a D2 or NAIA school once we are playoff eligible. Those games don't count and can seriously hinder the the teams ability to reach the needed 7 D1 wins to become playoff eligible. We should be very upset if we are buying D2 games once we are playoff eligible.
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Post by GoYotes on Jan 13, 2011 16:32:57 GMT -6
From Micks live chat today - sounds like football schedule will be as posted earlier, except road game at Western Illinois replaced with a home game against Sac State plus home games with Lindenwood & Missouri S&T. Am guessing schedule as follows:
9-3 at Air Force 9-10 Sacramento State 9-17 Lamar 9-24 at Wisconsin 10-1 Lindenwood 10-8 UC Davis (D Days) 10-15 at Ill State 10-22 Southern Utah 10-29 at Cal Poly
Either 11-5 or 11-12 Missouri S&T 11-19 at UND
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Post by Yote 53 on Jan 14, 2011 9:00:52 GMT -6
Sac State is a good get for a home game. Finished 4th in the Big Sky with a 5-3 conference record. They should be a good opponent.
Lindenwood is an NAIA school that finished 9-2 last season. Should be a body bag game. Nothing to get excited about here for the fans. For the players, they need to look at how the Sioux faltered against USF. Still, the Coyotes usually lay the wood in these types of games.
Missouri S&T (aka Missouri-Rolla), yes, that same school we blew out of the Dome on Dakota Days 2008. A D2 school out of the Great Lakes Valley Conference (not to be confused with the GLIAC, this conference isn't any good). Another game to not get excited about. They were 3-8 last year with some bad losses to some bad teams. Drake beat them, NW Okie St thumped them. This should be a 77-0 score. Thanks for coming, here's your pizza.
So we end up with 6 home games. Good. Four FCS games, 2 GWFC and 2 OOC. Good. 1 NAIA. Bad. 1 D2. Bad. I would have liked to have only seen one (or better yet zero) NAIA/D2 games on the schedule.
But yes, this is better than North Dakota's schedule. At least this coming year is the last year of these types of games.
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Post by GoYotes on Jan 14, 2011 9:49:33 GMT -6
I believe Lindenwood is transitioning to D2 on the same time table as USF, but none the less a game we should easily win, which is a good game the week after we visit Camp Randall.
At least we ended up with 6 home games.
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Post by Yote 53 on Jan 14, 2011 9:58:18 GMT -6
The way this schedule is set up I can see us having a stellar year and going 9-2, or losing some games we shouldn't and finishing 6-5. Who knows with this jekyll and hide team?
9-3 at Air Force - L 9-10 Sacramento State - W or L (this game will tell us alot, well, I thought Minnesota did last year but was wrong) 9-17 Lamar - W 9-24 at Wisconsin - L (at least it will be on the BTN. ESPN would be cool) 10-1 Lindenwood - W 10-8 UC Davis (D Days) - W (I think we win this game) 10-15 at Ill State - W or L 10-22 Southern Utah - W (another home game win) 10-29 at Cal Poly - W or L
Either 11-5 or 11-12 Missouri S&T - W 11-19 at UND - W (UND is just down as a program)
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Post by usdlaw on Jan 14, 2011 11:11:23 GMT -6
When is the last time we had six home games? It's been awhile. All things considered I think this is a great schedule. We have 4 quality home games, plus 2 easy home games. We may only have 4 quality home games going forward - ie the four MVFC games. Yes, it will be nice to host UND, Big Sky, or other FCS games every year as a 5th or 6th game, but with scheduling the way it that is no guarantee. Plus, if we play an FBS every year, playing one money game isn't the end of the world to off set the typical FBS loss.
Considering how bad UND's home schedule is next year, this is a great schedule for USD. Not to mention two money games in Air Force and Wisc.
I agree, 9-2 is possible, but anything less than 7-4 would be dissapointing. We need to win at least 1 of the FCS road games, two would be nice.
Sacramento State is a great get, kudos to Sayler for pulling that off. We exchanged a road MVFC team for a home Big Sky. That's a major switch in our favor.
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Post by Yote 53 on Jan 14, 2011 11:16:12 GMT -6
Oh, I agree USDLaw, 6 games is great. I guess it's an even trade-off, having to play the body baggers but getting 6 games with one of them being an OOC Big Sky matchup.
I'd also add I don't think it is a fair comparison to look at the XDSU's schedule at this point in their transition. They played mostly D1 schedules at this point. Things were different then, conference makeups were different. There were more FCS opponents available to play then.
I'm looking forward to next season already.
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Post by yotemeal on Jan 27, 2011 12:48:13 GMT -6
It's official! Check out Sept. 10th. As Larry David would say, that's pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty good.
South Dakota 2011 Football Schedule Sep. 3: @ Air Force Sept. 10: Eastern Washington Sept. 17: Lamar Sept. 24: @ Wisconsin Oct. 1: Lindenwood Oct. 8: Southern Utah (Dakota Days) Oct. 15: @ Illinois State Oct. 22: UC Davis (Family Day) Oct. 29: @ Cal Poly Nov. 12: Missouri S&T Nov. 19: @ North Dakota
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Post by Yote 53 on Jan 27, 2011 13:01:13 GMT -6
Defending FCS champ...at home...WOW! Ok, that makes up for the Lindenwood and Missouri S&T games. Plus it is 6 home games!
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Post by GoYotes on Jan 27, 2011 14:10:20 GMT -6
Defending national champs at home. Wow. Need to roll out the red carpet for the Eagles.
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