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Post by Cousin Eddie on Oct 2, 2014 8:59:36 GMT -6
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Post by Yotes on Oct 2, 2014 9:42:15 GMT -6
Love the analysis fightsd! I really feel that if we win the turnover battle we likely win.
I hopped on over to their board. Not a lot of talk going on over there, but I was told that their online stream through their website is terrible. I'm curious how that watch party is going to work.
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Post by fightsd on Oct 2, 2014 10:07:13 GMT -6
Not sold on Saeger's ability to pass, yet. Sold on his ability to run. One name we haven't heard hardly at all this season, Riley Donovan. 7 catches for 91 yards in 4 games. Either it is because the ball is being spread out to more receivers or it is due to the QB's inability to get him the ball downfield. I'd like to see Donovan get heated up in order to take some pressure off the run game with teams stacking the box, because you know that is what is going to happen to stop our run game. I will agree Saegar is still unproven, but I don't think Riley's lack of productivity so far is because of Saegar's "inability". We just haven't had to throw the ball yet. I would have liked to see Ryan get the green light to sling it around on William Penn a little more to build his confidence up (and give us a better sense of what we have). I expect to start seeing Riley show up on more big plays as the season progresses. When we continue to run the ball for 5+ on first down, they are going to load the box like we have seen so many times before. That's when Wesley likes to take a shot on a double move down field.
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Post by houndawg on Oct 2, 2014 13:05:34 GMT -6
Western Illinois had a 14-10 lead at halftime over SIU, but really stalled in the second half as Southern Illinois went on to win 34-17. Western Illinois could only get 2.1 ypc, and it certainly doesn't seem to be due to a stellar rush defense on SIU's end, meaning that this Western Illinois team is incredibly one dimensional (49 pass attempts today, they know that they can't run). Western Illinois is going to be the last place team in the conference, has zero running game, and SIU still couldn't find any comfort until the closing seconds of the third quarter. I can't say I'm impressed by SIU, but all I am going off of is box scores that don't tell the whole story.If we are able to move the ball through the air we will have a very good chance of getting a landmark victory. We are going to be well rested, healthier than we have been in the last few games, and full of confidence coming off a win over a ranked opponent. This bye week is coming at about the best time possible, two full weeks for our guys to heal up and figure out the opponent could be the difference in this one. The one thing I can say with certainty, it's going to be a battle. Let's give them all we got! Go Yotes! Its those intangibles that get you, and they line up for the Yotes pretty well this week - coming off a bye week facing a squad dinged on the OL and at RB and that after this week has six games against ranked opponents, starting with #1. Both games I've seen the Salukis have started slow and did a good job of halftime adjustments. Since we haven't played USD yet its hard for me to judge whether WIU or USD will be the last place team this year but I to my eyes WIU and SEMO are both better than most people think. I would expect SIU to have a good day passing this week, especially if they can get the Yotes in the position of trying to cover Pruitt with an LB. I think we may throw more than usual partly because of injuries mentioned above. I agree that we have had the easiest part of our schedule up front and that we could be overrated. One of the things not shown in the box scores is that Purdue had to keep their starters in through most of the 4th quarter.
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Post by fightsd on Oct 2, 2014 14:41:02 GMT -6
Western Illinois had a 14-10 lead at halftime over SIU, but really stalled in the second half as Southern Illinois went on to win 34-17. Western Illinois could only get 2.1 ypc, and it certainly doesn't seem to be due to a stellar rush defense on SIU's end, meaning that this Western Illinois team is incredibly one dimensional (49 pass attempts today, they know that they can't run). Western Illinois is going to be the last place team in the conference, has zero running game, and SIU still couldn't find any comfort until the closing seconds of the third quarter. I can't say I'm impressed by SIU, but all I am going off of is box scores that don't tell the whole story.If we are able to move the ball through the air we will have a very good chance of getting a landmark victory. We are going to be well rested, healthier than we have been in the last few games, and full of confidence coming off a win over a ranked opponent. This bye week is coming at about the best time possible, two full weeks for our guys to heal up and figure out the opponent could be the difference in this one. The one thing I can say with certainty, it's going to be a battle. Let's give them all we got! Go Yotes! Its those intangibles that get you, and they line up for the Yotes pretty well this week - coming off a bye week facing a squad dinged on the OL and at RB and that after this week has six games against ranked opponents, starting with #1. Both games I've seen the Salukis have started slow and did a good job of halftime adjustments. Since we haven't played USD yet its hard for me to judge whether WIU or USD will be the last place team this year but I to my eyes WIU and SEMO are both better than most people think. I would expect SIU to have a good day passing this week, especially if they can get the Yotes in the position of trying to cover Pruitt with an LB. I think we may throw more than usual partly because of injuries mentioned above. I agree that we have had the easiest part of our schedule up front and that we could be overrated. One of the things not shown in the box scores is that Purdue had to keep their starters in through most of the 4th quarter. Between USD or WIU for last place? Hmm. Not making any wild predictions here, but SIU beat WIU and a very down Eastern Illinois squad. And I'm sure SEMO is just a great program too (can't find my "rolling eyes" smiley but insert here). You have no clue my friend. All I can say is I hope your team has the same attitude as you about this game and looks ahead to NDSU.
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Post by Yote 53 on Oct 2, 2014 14:58:09 GMT -6
Watch party in Vermillion for this game is at the Varsity. I'd expect that to be the season long Howling Pack watch party home.
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Post by yoteforever on Oct 2, 2014 17:14:35 GMT -6
Western Illinois had a 14-10 lead at halftime over SIU, but really stalled in the second half as Southern Illinois went on to win 34-17. Western Illinois could only get 2.1 ypc, and it certainly doesn't seem to be due to a stellar rush defense on SIU's end, meaning that this Western Illinois team is incredibly one dimensional (49 pass attempts today, they know that they can't run). Western Illinois is going to be the last place team in the conference, has zero running game, and SIU still couldn't find any comfort until the closing seconds of the third quarter. I can't say I'm impressed by SIU, but all I am going off of is box scores that don't tell the whole story.If we are able to move the ball through the air we will have a very good chance of getting a landmark victory. We are going to be well rested, healthier than we have been in the last few games, and full of confidence coming off a win over a ranked opponent. This bye week is coming at about the best time possible, two full weeks for our guys to heal up and figure out the opponent could be the difference in this one. The one thing I can say with certainty, it's going to be a battle. Let's give them all we got! Go Yotes! Its those intangibles that get you, and they line up for the Yotes pretty well this week - coming off a bye week facing a squad dinged on the OL and at RB and that after this week has six games against ranked opponents, starting with #1. Both games I've seen the Salukis have started slow and did a good job of halftime adjustments. Since we haven't played USD yet its hard for me to judge whether WIU or USD will be the last place team this year but I to my eyes WIU and SEMO are both better than most people think. I would expect SIU to have a good day passing this week, especially if they can get the Yotes in the position of trying to cover Pruitt with an LB. I think we may throw more than usual partly because of injuries mentioned above. I agree that we have had the easiest part of our schedule up front and that we could be overrated. One of the things not shown in the box scores is that Purdue had to keep their starters in through most of the 4th quarter. If you had posted this at the beginning of the year, I would have agreed with you. I don't think you'll find a lot of success in moving the ball for any stretches of time. And I don't think our secondary is as leaky as you think. The outcome of the game will be whether you can stop the run or not. It's that simple. Once we get our starter back,we will be more than a one dimensional team. If Earl was playing, I would pick the Coyotes by 10. Without him, and if Ryan has a hard time making the downfield throws, I say the game is a gossip, maybe SIU because you're at home. I thought your performance against Purdue was admirable until I watched them play last week. Quite frankly they aren't as good as Minnesota was a few years back when we beat them, then went on to a so so season. Quite frankly Purdue wouldn't win the Missouri Valley. They are horrible. I look for a good game. I hope everyone keeps underselling the Coyotes.
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Post by Yotes on Oct 2, 2014 17:36:55 GMT -6
Its those intangibles that get you, and they line up for the Yotes pretty well this week - coming off a bye week facing a squad dinged on the OL and at RB and that after this week has six games against ranked opponents, starting with #1. Both games I've seen the Salukis have started slow and did a good job of halftime adjustments. Since we haven't played USD yet its hard for me to judge whether WIU or USD will be the last place team this year but I to my eyes WIU and SEMO are both better than most people think. I would expect SIU to have a good day passing this week, especially if they can get the Yotes in the position of trying to cover Pruitt with an LB. I think we may throw more than usual partly because of injuries mentioned above. I agree that we have had the easiest part of our schedule up front and that we could be overrated. One of the things not shown in the box scores is that Purdue had to keep their starters in through most of the 4th quarter. If you had posted this at the beginning of the year, I would have agreed with you. I don't think you'll find a lot of success in moving the ball for any stretches of time. And I don't think our secondary is as leaky as you think. The outcome of the game will be whether you can stop the run or not. It's that simple. Once we get our starter back,we will be more than a one dimensional team. If Earl was playing, I would pick the Coyotes by 10. Without him, and if Ryan has a hard time making the downfield throws, I say the game is a gossip, maybe SIU because you're at home. I thought your performance against Purdue was admirable until I watched them play last week. Quite frankly they aren't as good as Minnesota was a few years back when we beat them, then went on to a so so season. Quite frankly Purdue wouldn't win the Missouri Valley. They are horrible. I look for a good game. I hope everyone keeps underselling the Coyotes. I can't believe how little respect we are getting. Watching the team it's very clear that we are trending upwards and hard, but still everyone's got us as a guaranteed pick for 9th or 10th place. I hope the players don't feel like taking us seriously either, because we will embarrass them if they blow us off.
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Post by houndawg on Oct 2, 2014 19:11:45 GMT -6
Its those intangibles that get you, and they line up for the Yotes pretty well this week - coming off a bye week facing a squad dinged on the OL and at RB and that after this week has six games against ranked opponents, starting with #1. Both games I've seen the Salukis have started slow and did a good job of halftime adjustments. Since we haven't played USD yet its hard for me to judge whether WIU or USD will be the last place team this year but I to my eyes WIU and SEMO are both better than most people think. I would expect SIU to have a good day passing this week, especially if they can get the Yotes in the position of trying to cover Pruitt with an LB. I think we may throw more than usual partly because of injuries mentioned above. I agree that we have had the easiest part of our schedule up front and that we could be overrated. One of the things not shown in the box scores is that Purdue had to keep their starters in through most of the 4th quarter. Well, at least I can always come here and soak in the profound football wisdom that is you. What do you you think? Yotes by 2 or three scores over Purdue? I think if anybody is underestimating their opponent it is you.
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Post by houndawg on Oct 2, 2014 19:16:51 GMT -6
If you had posted this at the beginning of the year, I would have agreed with you. I don't think you'll find a lot of success in moving the ball for any stretches of time. And I don't think our secondary is as leaky as you think. The outcome of the game will be whether you can stop the run or not. It's that simple. Once we get our starter back,we will be more than a one dimensional team. If Earl was playing, I would pick the Coyotes by 10. Without him, and if Ryan has a hard time making the downfield throws, I say the game is a gossip, maybe SIU because you're at home. I thought your performance against Purdue was admirable until I watched them play last week. Quite frankly they aren't as good as Minnesota was a few years back when we beat them, then went on to a so so season. Quite frankly Purdue wouldn't win the Missouri Valley. They are horrible. I look for a good game. I hope everyone keeps underselling the Coyotes. I can't believe how little respect we are getting. Watching the team it's very clear that we are trending upwards and hard, but still everyone's got us as a guaranteed pick for 9th or 10th place. I hope the players don't feel like taking us seriously either, because we will embarrass them if they blow us off. I think its more a reflection of how strong the MVC is this year.
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Post by yoteforever on Oct 2, 2014 19:55:02 GMT -6
Well, at least I can always come here and soak in the profound football wisdom that is you. What do you you think? Yotes by 2 or three scores over Purdue? I think if anybody is underestimating their opponent it is you. Hey houndswg, you're the one that came here puffing out your chest bragging how Purdue had to keep in their starters until the 4th quarter. Why I'm not sure because they were ahead of you 28-0 in the first half. And quite frankly Purdue sucks. This years Purdue team couldn't beat the Minnesota team we beat a few years ago. NDSU beat Iowa State, SDSU played a highly ranked Missouri team much better than your effort against Purdue. Hell we had nearly 400 yards offense against #2 Oregon. I'm not underestimating your team. I respect SIU but not for their effort against frickin Purdue. You have a successful history, with a solid head coach. But don't underestimate USD. Your fortunate you aren't having to face our starting QB. Even at that, I say the game is decided by 7 points or less either way.
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Post by obc on Oct 2, 2014 20:03:03 GMT -6
I am confident that USD is at a place in their development where the players will take the field fully expecting to play well and get the win. They are physically stronger and more experienced than last year.
My hope is that the Yotes watched the first half of the NAU game and saw what they are capable of when they put it all together. SIU is most likely better than NAU but if the Yotes play like they did that first half of that game for four quarters this Saturday, USD will get a big win.
USD is going to have to get close to 30 to get this win IMO. If the USD defense plays well I still see SIU getting over 20. USD's ability to complete passes to move the chains on 3rd and 5+ situations will be huge. I think the Yotes will gash the Salukis a couple times deep mixed in with lots of short passes to the TEs as well as short routes to our WR. Sanders will also surprise them with his athleticism. USD is due for a breakout offensive showing. Saeger has gotten better every week and there is no reason that he cannot step up big this week.
USD 27 SIU 21
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Post by houndawg on Oct 2, 2014 20:06:26 GMT -6
Is that a "yes, Yotes by two or three scores over Purdue"?
What's with all the butthurt, bubba? I say I think we can throw on you and you catch the vapors and start bleating about no respect. smh.
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Post by yoteforever on Oct 2, 2014 20:11:12 GMT -6
Is that a "yes, Yotes by two or three scores over Purdue"? What's with all the butthurt, bubba? I say I think we can throw on you and you catch the vapors and start bleating about no respect. smh. Who has the butthurt? All I said Purdue sucks. I say we play them closer than you. You got your a$$ handed to you. It was over at half. Regarding vapor, I saw vapor at Oregon. I highly doubt I'll see it in Carbondale.
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Post by houndawg on Oct 2, 2014 20:21:46 GMT -6
Hey houndswg, you're the one that came here puffing out your chest bragging how Purdue had to keep in their starters until the 4th quarter. Why I'm not sure because they were ahead of you 28-0 in the first half. And quite frankly Purdue sucks. This years Purdue team couldn't beat the Minnesota team we beat a few years ago. NDSU beat Iowa State, SDSU played a highly ranked Missouri team much better than your effort against Purdue. Hell we had nearly 400 yards offense against #2 Oregon. I'm not underestimating your team. I respect SIU but not for their effort against frickin Purdue. You have a successful history, with a solid head coach. But don't underestimate USD. Your fortunate you aren't having to face our starting QB. Even at that, I say the game is decided by 7 points or less either way. hell, you should put 650/700 on us then. I'm not real clear where you're going with the NDSU and SDSU bit though? Is it a Dakota thing?
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