Western Illinois

[Coyote Fan]

Another lame performance by the Yotes today. They get the most winnable conference game of the year and they really weren't even in the game when the final gun sounded. I am definately glad I did not get season tickets this year. Can't even win at home against the 2nd worst team in the league.

[Yotes]

We are now in serious contention for another 0-8 MVFC campaign after a tenth straight conference loss. There has to be major changes after the season, even if we find a way to win the last couple games. This year has been just one long train wreck, which just can't happen with a group of coaches who have had this long to get things going.

I'm kind of surprised just how many fans came to the game, imagine how many people we would draw if we put together a good season.

[Charlie]

Wes can't even change up the post game interview. It's the same every week; very predictable just like his play calling. It's time to change it up.

[obc]

Just not good enough. Better crowd than I would have guessed considering the record.

I understand the transition from D2 to FCS then to the MVFC is tough, but going two of three seasons without a conference win is pretty hard to take. If the program is progressing, I would hate to watch what regression would look like.

Realistically you can't get rid of several assistants and expect great candidates to line up to jump into a one-year contract with a HC that has been struggling this much. I think Glenn is good enough to be the coach with the right staff. I think the fact he didn't clean house when he came in was a mistake (maybe he had no choice or no budget to adequately do so).

You often hear of teams having a signature win. This feels like a signature loss for the Coyotes this week.

If I was betting, I would guess the staff will remain relatively the same next year. I have no inside knowledge however, so who knows.

[sdyotefan]

I try to be the eternal optimist which is getting more difficult after another tough loss. One surprising fact though is that the Yotes only have 10 seniors so they are a very young team. Hopefully experience is a great teacher that will help next year and the coaches will put together a very good recruiting class.

[Iceman]

Oh don't say that they are a young team. People have said that on here for 3 years and no one wants to hear it anymore, although I sort of agree. Every time someone says that on here, they get ripped by everyone. I think the reason we have fewer upperclassmen playing is because Glenn and staff keep recruiting better players each year that tend to replace the upperclassmen that would normally be on the field.

What happens to us in the 2nd half? Do we not make any halftime adjustments in the locker room or what? We play pretty decent first halves and then look completely lost in the second half. Our play calling on offense is so terrible it stinks. Everyone knows a run is coming on first down. When teams load up the box, it is time to pass. Hello Wesley? You were a QB in college. You think you would get some of these things. Open up the playbook past page 1. I'm sure there are a few more pages in there. Let's do some play action, misdirection, hell trick plays. What is it going to hurt? Is it going to hurt our record? Come on.

I liked that we actually got a little pressure on the QB today. Our secondary is scary. The DBs are always about 2 steps behind and when the WR they are covering gets thrown to, we never try to make a play on the ball. We just try to run with them and hope to eventually bring them down before they get to the end zone. Our tackling needs help as does about every defense in the country. You see it all over that defenses really struggle with tackling. I really think it's because there is less and less full contact in practice.

I can't believe all the injuries we have. We have had tons of concussions. What is wrong with the helmets? They are supposed to be better and better all the time, but we just keep losing more and more people to concussions. I assume VanderMatten had one today because they took his helmet. Jasper Sanders was on crutches after the game. They said Jordan Roberts also got hurt.

[coyotega]

Third down efficiency of 5 for 15 won't get it done.

[coyote61]

I happened to watch coach Joe's press conference after the game. And I must say it was brutal. He looks like he is done, and I felt sorry for him. I just think its time for him to resign for the good of the program. Coach Glenn deserves a better fate, but we need to move to a better place. I want to thank Joe for cleaning up the mess that was left him, and hopefully the next coach will reap the benefits. I will be disappointed if there is not a change.

[88grad]

Audible sigh and head shaking.

[olifer]

As I was listening to the post game show on KVHT during my drive home last night, I don't think they had one person call into the program, leaving the radio announcer to run the show alone. I wasn't inclined to to call in either as I had nothing to add. Being "positive" about where we're at kind of like being on the end of the Titanic that is still sticking out of the water. Being "negative" just doesn't seem to feel right either. The coaches didn't want this, the players didn't want this, and none of us sure as heck wanted this so where does that leave "US"? As for me, two games to go and we'll be at both of them, cheering as loud as we can and supporting our team. It's the only thing we have left that still "feels'" right!

[obc]

I was also listening to the post game radio show with Joh Thayer. He does a great job btw and if you are not tuning in and catching his post game reaction show - I would encourage you to do so - call in if that is your thing or you can email or send him your reaction on twitter. You can listen to KVHT anywhere from their website or on the Tunein app.

You bring up an interesting point about negativity and I have thought a lot about that over the past five years of following the program. I think everyone has to decide for themselves how they are going to react to the Coyotes most likely only winning 3 conference games in 24 tries over 3 seasons. I would say overall the fan base is hanging in there - yesterday's non-student attendance wasn't too bad considering the circumstances. The students..... Well the 100 or so that were there at least stayed most of the game.

During yesterday's reaction show, John Thayer submitted that you cannot just look at wins and losses as the only measurement of progress. He suggested that the Coyotes are very inexperienced across the board and that the team has been crippled by injuries. Perhaps that is a fair assessment.

It may be viewed as negative, but my thought is this: the Coyotes have shown to be the worst team in the MVFC over the past three years cumulatively and individually (this year and 2012). 2013 the Coyotes were probably the 7th to 8th best MVFC team. I don't think this is really debatable.
What is debatable is how we view the team's progress and our belief that this program will be better next year.

I hope beyond hope that the Coyotes will be a top half MVFC team next year. I just wouldn't predict it. If that is negative, so be it. Personally, I would like to give Glenn and his staff of choice another year to find out. On one hand the program doesn't want to be known as one that administratively chews up and spits out coaches with reckless abandon, but on the other if results like this are tolerated it creates other problems. That is why I am in the one more year camp - that would be four seasons to show progress. Everyone's idea of progress may be different and mine would be focused on wins and losses - If the Yotes are not 4-4 in the MVFC next year minimum, changes should be made.

[yotemeal]

Here's the landscape as I see it. We have as our leader a loveable, genuine, high-character program patriot in Joe Glenn, to whom we owe great gratitude for coming out of retirement and trying to right the ship. I think he's achieved that off the field.

Unfortunately, the results on the field simply are not there. Even if we give our coaches the most generous benefit of the doubt - which I'm not convinced they've earned - sometimes change is simply in the best interests of all parties.

This is more than a bad season; we have a bad football program. And I have no more patience for talk of lack of resources, lack of facilities, student section, etc. Great, hungry coaches get the most out of what they have. Those coaches are out there. Let's go find them. (I'm optimistic we found one in Craig Smith.)

USD fans desperately want to get behind this thing, but one can only endure so much disappointment. Excuses are no longer valid.

[Yotes]

I'm squarely in the changes need to be made boat. This year's team by all accounts was going to be Glenn's best one yet at USD, yet we are steamrolling towards another winless year in conference play. Even in that first season, at least half of the games were within a score when we did lose, at least we were in the game. This season, we have lost every single conference game by double digits. Every single game. Not just against the top of the conference, but even to the dregs of the conference. These kind of results would have only been somewhat acceptable in the first year, and are just plain unacceptable at this point.

This is just the worst way for Joe Glenn to go out, but I don't know how we can keep him after a season like this (that is to say, if he doesn't just walk away on his own). There is no one I would rather have lead the Coyotes to victory than Joe Glenn, but clearly he isn't going to be able to get the job done here.

I hope for a complete upheaval of the staff, and to find afterwards that the source of these poor results was the staff and not the infrastructure the staff has been operating in.

[yoteforever]

I think the vast majority of us feel about the same. We are feeling horrible for Joe, who took the job 3 years ago on the feeling he could make a difference. The fact is, he did make a difference, but not in areas that are measurable. As someone posted yesterday, this isn't how affine wanted Joe to go out, most of all Joe. I get the arguments that there are no more excuses, I also get the fact some people feel we have improved in some areas, and just had dumb, rotten luck in others.

Here's my line. I would let Joe go one more year if he would agree to a significant turnover in his staff. Bring in new blood. There just isn't one ounce of fire from most the coaches. The lone exception was Coach Williams, the defensive line coach, when we had a couple of sacks. He brought enthusiasm. Other than that, it would be difficult to play for a position coach who really didn't have his heart in it. All that being said, to me it's like sending off your brothers to fight a war in another land. There's that empty pit in your stomach that goes along with such a decision.

If Joe doesn't agree to that, keep him on as an "adviser" and raise funds for the program. Still let him be active in the development of the program. But do a search for a entire new staff, one that is hungry as suggested in another post, and one that can ignite the fan base similar to what Joe Glenn did. I just feel sick to my stomach this morning, but the truth is the kids don't want to win that bad, and that's a reflection of coaching, andby that, I mean position coaching.

[Yotes]

Nov 9, 2014 10:48:32 GMT -6 yoteforever said:

I think the vast majority of us feel about the same. We are feeling horrible for Joe, who took the job 3 years ago on the feeling he could make a difference. The fact is, he did make a difference, but not in areas that are measurable. As someone posted yesterday, this isn't how affine wanted Joe to go out, most of all Joe. I get the arguments that there are no more excuses, I also get the fact some people feel we have improved in some areas, and just had dumb, rotten luck in others.

Here's my line. I would let Joe go one more year if he would agree to a significant turnover in his staff. Bring in new blood. There just isn't one ounce of fire from most the coaches. The lone exception was Coach Williams, the defensive line coach, when we had a couple of sacks. He brought enthusiasm. Other than that, it would be difficult to play for a position coach who really didn't have his heart in it. All that being said, to me it's like sending off your brothers to fight a war in another land. There's that empty pit in your stomach that goes along with such a decision.

If Joe doesn't agree to that, keep him on as an "adviser" and raise funds for the program. Still let him be active in the development of the program. But do a search for a entire new staff, one that is hungry as suggested in another post, and one that can ignite the fan base similar to what Joe Glenn did. I just feel sick to my stomach this morning, but the truth is the kids don't want to win that bad, and that's a reflection of coaching, andby that, I mean position coaching.

I completely agree with this. I will be all for keeping Joe Glenn another year if he made major changes to the staff. I just don't know that Joe will be willing to go through that, he would probably lean towards retirement rather than tell his staff that they are fired.

What a disappointing situation we have on our hands. Joe Glenn is just the last person I would want to have this happen to. He looks just plain tired though, and I really think he is down to his last two games as a coach. I hope everyone gets behind him 100% these final weeks, they may well be his last.