obc
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Post by obc on Nov 9, 2014 12:33:49 GMT -6
I have my doubts that Herbster will make any demands on Glenn. I will predict Joe will go on as long as he wants to. Personally, I would rather Joe Glenn was raising money full-time for the Athletic Department. Just my opinion though.
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Post by yotemeal on Nov 9, 2014 14:19:27 GMT -6
The next head coach needs full discretion to choose his staff. Accordingly, I don't think it's realistic to expect major changes under Joe. He was either going to succeed with this staff or he wasn't. Any changes needed to come year one. A popular rumbling is that Joe is fond of the notion of grooming Wes for HC. I've seen nothing to suggest that's a good idea. If dramatic changes are to come, i think it necessarily involves Joe stepping aside.
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Post by Yote 53 on Nov 9, 2014 15:40:20 GMT -6
You will not be able to find decent assistant coaches under these conditions. No way a good coach goes into a situation knowing it's a one year gig for a coach whose next job is retirement.
It's just time for a complete overhaul. Probably the best thing for all parties as this just isn't working. Time for everyone to move on.
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usdlaw
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Post by usdlaw on Nov 9, 2014 20:21:52 GMT -6
I am definately glad I did not get season tickets this year. Maybe they would win if you would get your butt to a game, then do the unthinkable stand up and cheer and holy crap SUPPORT the team instead of couch potato bitching day in and day out... You are like the person who doesn't vote then complains about politicians. |
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Post by usdlaw on Nov 9, 2014 20:23:23 GMT -6
One positive comment about the game, the old guy in front of me stood on 4 separate third downs. Amazing things can happen
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 9, 2014 21:52:37 GMT -6
I am definately glad I did not get season tickets this year. Maybe they would win if you would get your butt to a game, then do the unthinkable stand up and cheer and holy crap SUPPORT the team instead of couch potato bitching day in and day out... You are like the person who doesn't vote then complains about politicians. Well I do vote and do complain about politicians. I also vote my approval or disapproval with my wallet come game day. The football program is lucky they don't draw under 4,000 per game. I think they should be thankful for that. I am no longer a loyal alum. If enough isn't being done to make this program a winner I am no longer coming to games. I used to go no matter what but that way of thinking is now history. I put in my time as a loyal fan. Now it's time to be a bandwagoner for awhile. If more people had that attitude and less than 4,000 would show up than the athletic department would get the clue and start being serious about winning and losing. What motivation is there now with people still showing up Saturday after Saturday. I still follow the program enough to make educated opinions about it. I know one thing. Going 3-19 in the Valley any way you shape it up should bring major changes. If it doesn't what does that tell you about your administrations intentions and seriousness of winning football games anytime soon. We will find out at the end of the season how serious our administration is of putting a good product on the field. If you went to your favorite restaurant and the service started to suck and the food was no good would you continue to go back? Why is supporting a football team any different. You should be getting more for your money. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2014 22:09:44 GMT -6
Maybe they would win if you would get your butt to a game, then do the unthinkable stand up and cheer and holy crap SUPPORT the team instead of couch potato bitching day in and day out... You are like the person who doesn't vote then complains about politicians. Well I do vote and do complain about politicians. I also vote my approval or disapproval with my wallet come game day. The football program is lucky they don't draw under 4,000 per game. I think they should be thankful for that. I am no longer a loyal alum. If enough isn't being done to make this program a winner I am no longer coming to games. I used to go no matter what but that way of thinking is now history. I put in my time as a loyal fan. Now it's time to be a bandwagoner for awhile. If more people had that attitude and less than 4,000 would show up than the athletic department would get the clue and start being serious about winning and losing. What motivation is there now with people still showing up Saturday after Saturday. I still follow the program enough to make educated opinions about it. I know one thing. Going 3-19 in the Valley any way you shape it up should bring major changes. If it doesn't what does that tell you about your administrations intentions and seriousness of winning football games anytime soon. We will find out at the end of the season how serious our administration is of putting a good product on the field. If you went to your favorite restaurant and the service started to suck and the food was no good would you continue to go back? Why is supporting a football team any different. You should be getting more for your money. Ask not what you can do for your University, but what your University can do for YOU!! Wait....what?! |
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Post by notkiotees on Nov 10, 2014 1:08:43 GMT -6
Dear Azzsitters,
Thank you for buying a ticket.
Please continue stuffing sh!tty hotdogs in your piehole.
Love your passion.
Insincerely yours,
The Fool
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Post by yoteforever on Nov 10, 2014 8:10:48 GMT -6
Maybe they would win if you would get your butt to a game, then do the unthinkable stand up and cheer and holy crap SUPPORT the team instead of couch potato bitching day in and day out... You are like the person who doesn't vote then complains about politicians. Well I do vote and do complain about politicians. I also vote my approval or disapproval with my wallet come game day. The football program is lucky they don't draw under 4,000 per game. I think they should be thankful for that. I am no longer a loyal alum. If enough isn't being done to make this program a winner I am no longer coming to games. I used to go no matter what but that way of thinking is now history. I put in my time as a loyal fan. Now it's time to be a bandwagoner for awhile. If more people had that attitude and less than 4,000 would show up than the athletic department would get the clue and start being serious about winning and losing. What motivation is there now with people still showing up Saturday after Saturday. I still follow the program enough to make educated opinions about it. I know one thing. Going 3-19 in the Valley any way you shape it up should bring major changes. If it doesn't what does that tell you about your administrations intentions and seriousness of winning football games anytime soon. We will find out at the end of the season how serious our administration is of putting a good product on the field. If you went to your favorite restaurant and the service started to suck and the food was no good would you continue to go back? Why is supporting a football team any different. You should be getting more for your money. This is an argument you would use if you were a season ticket holder of the Minnesota Vikings or Twins. This isn't the kind of argument you pose if you indeed are a sincere fan and alum of a university. Your analogy is absurd. If everybody thought like this, then roughly 50% of the fans/boosters wouldn't be involved either financially, participation wise, or both because not everybody agrees on what needs to be done, or the process to do it. An example is when you three years ago clamor end for a change in the program, I didn't agree with you, but it happened. Now using your analogy, I then should have stayed away from the Dome the last three years, not given the Howling Pack memberships, withdrawn our financial support for football, and refused to make a pledge towards the arena. Is that the desired goal you want? I have stated a million times to you, if the only time you are going to go to games is if we are in a position to win the conference, or make the playoffs ( and anything less than that just isn't acceptable to good ol loyal coyotefan) then stay in f'ing Sioux Falls. Because you don't have a clue what it takes to build a winner, or the prices paid by individuals in attempting to build a winner, such as Sayler hiring Joe Glenn. Joe fought his ass off to do what he thought was right, and do it in the right way, yet you just want to throw him out like a sack of garbage to the streets because we aren't in contention for the title. You know what I have to say to you? F off. Stay home, be a Jacks fan, they are in the playoff hunt. I really don't give two craps if you ever come to the Dome again. I'd rather have a fan that has a little compassion to the situation. Everyone thinks it's just so damned easy to fire everyone and start again. Hell, we all know the situation we are in, and the attempt to hire a qualified coach three years ago, a coach that bleeds Coyote red, a coach that has won three national championships, a coach that loves USD for than anyone I know, didn't work out as planned. And in all likelihood he is the reason for whatever reason, but to toss him out like a sack of garbage? C'mon, aren't we better than that? There's a dignified way to do it. Lastly, and I hate always saying this, and there is a post saying an aggressive coach can overcome our financial shortfalls, but the reality is until we fund this program the proper way, and finish the Dome and football offices the correct way in the Arena project, we are fighting an uphill battle. Please do some research. Go to other conference school websites and count how many assistant coaches (not GA's) they have, and how many we have. Than research what their staffs are paid vs. what our staff is paid. You do the math. I'm not saying a great young coach, sure as hell can't get it done, but it will be hard for him to do it AND maintain it like we all want. Like all other schools in the league want. In closing, coyotefan please go buy blue and yellow. And when the day comes, and it will, that USD has their run, go post on their board how you aren't going to dish out $100 for a season ticket because you deserve better. I don't want fans like you at any cost there is short term. Stay home. For those that personally know me, I'm apologize in advance for this post, but this guy makes me boil like none other, and his f'ing pious attitude towards it all makes me puke. |
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Post by coyote70 on Nov 10, 2014 9:02:28 GMT -6
Saw my second Coyote game of the season after making the 435-mile one-way trip from the Black Hills. My conclusion is that we're not a very good team. I saw some good plays on offense, etc. and the players seemed to be trying hard. Unfortunately, they just didn't have the skills or quickness to compete with Western Illinois.
My recommendation is to keep the current coaching staff providing we can cast a wider net when it comes to recruiting. Simply put, we cannot and will not be able to compete successfully in the MVFC unless we can recruit better players. To me this is most evident in the defensive back and wide receiver positions.
My next recommendation is to support this team to the hilt, financially and by attending games. Weak-willed folks who do not "refuse to lose" (like Coyotefan) used to disgust me; now I just smile because they are the real losers.
Lets keep smiling and working on this project. We will make it work if we work all the harder at supporting this team.
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Post by sdyotefan on Nov 10, 2014 9:19:33 GMT -6
Agree coyote70 especially about support. Like everyone else in the country we need 1 or 2 great pass rushers. No matter how good a DB is they can't stay with receivers for 4-5 seconds. Seemed like we played a lot of man coverage on Sat and blitzed a lot and if you don't get to the QB it's a long day....
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Post by yote14 on Nov 10, 2014 10:05:53 GMT -6
I hate fair weather fans. If you're happy you didnt get tickets this year because of how the team performed then you dont deserve to be there acting like you have been a fan of the Yotes all your life when they do start winning. Win or lose we need to support them the same no matter how difficult that can be. I will also be at the last 2 games olifer as thats what we should be doing as "Fans".
I'm fine with a negative outlook on the current situation because sometimes thats the only type of attitudes that create change but full support no matter what is needed.
I also would love to see Glenn get a new staff and have one more year at it. I truly believe Glenn is not the problem. And saying that you're tired of excuses about facilities etc and just want change is BS. Tell that to the kids choosing NDSU and other schools with better facilities or the programs that have larger coaching staffs to build a program and recruit. They are not excuses but rather legit reasons change has not happened and until the university puts money into the program you could get Urban Meyer as a coach its still going to be very difficult to compete against schools with the large coaching staffs and facilities.
All coaching salaries are on the state of South Dakota's website. I would encourage you to look at them compared to SDSU's. Glenn is paid significantly less than other head coaches. The assistant's at USD are paid almost identical salaries as SDSU. the only differnece is SDSU has a lot more assistants. It's not unreasonable to expect we could hire quality assistants from within the midwest when we are paying assistants the same as other schools. unless we pay another 80k-100k we will not find a better head coach than Glenn. Just not possible. Clean house with the assistants except Petrino as I think he has done a really good job with what he has and deserves to stay. Keep Glenn (if he even wants to stay at this point)as he is the best option for what we are currently willing to spend.
If we want to be good everyone needs to be getting on the university to financially support the program for the first time in 40 years. It's going to happen from the top down. the best coach in the world cannot overcome the obstacles currently in place for coach Glenn.
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Post by usdguy99 on Nov 10, 2014 16:01:00 GMT -6
As one famous coach once said, "Coaches coach and players play." Joe said as much in one of the post-game interviews that they've done pretty much all they can do from a "coaching" angle for some of the key players, now they need to do their job and play.
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Post by fightsd on Nov 10, 2014 16:17:34 GMT -6
As one famous coach once said, "Coaches coach and players play." Joe said as much in one of the post-game interviews that they've done pretty much all they can do from a "coaching" angle for some of the key players, now they need to do their job and play. Bingo. Hit the nail on the head. The coaches aren't the ones out there blowing assignments or missing blocks. I didn't see Joe Glenn underthrow his fullback by 10 yards. The coaches are preparing this team and their respective positions just like they have everywhere else they have coached successful programs. The solution is plain and simple. The players need to get together and figure this out. Someone needs to step up and be a leader. |
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Post by Coyote Fan on Nov 10, 2014 17:28:00 GMT -6
If we want to play the card of not having enough fan support or not have enough funding just look at the program that just came into our own backyard and picked up the win. Western Illinois more than any other team in the conference has a problem with fan support and funding but that didn't stop them from getting the win. It's not a funding issue and it's not a fan support issue. It's an issue of having a coach in place that is a lame duck coach. USD will not get any better under Glenn. He is getting older, not better. That is exactly why we need to start over now. Keeping Glenn in place is just delaying the inevitable. He is not the future and is certainly not the "now". I don't see any major turnarounds under Glenn and even if he did somewhat get the ship righted it would be more than likely under a coach that will be looking to resign in short time anyway. For the long term health of the program it's better just to simply cut the losses right now and build toward the future the right way and that is to clean house from top to bottom and start completely over. Starting over gives the Yotes a better chance to be competitive than simply standing pat with this regime.
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